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#1 HookerRoad

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:35 AM

This is an excerpt in it's entirety taken from pages 145-147 of the Cannabible 3 written by Jason King. I enjoyed it so much I decided to type it up and share it. I hope you enjoy it as well.

Why most pot sucks

As my appreciation for fine cannabis grows, I have become more aware of the shortcomings of most of today's herb. Upon careful examination of these shortcomings, I've determined that the same four problems plague a surprisingly high percentage of today's kind bud. And it's not the genetics! Most of the strains that people grow nowadays would produce amazing medicine if grown, flushed, cured, and handled properly. This is especially sad when you consider that the hardest part is already finished by the time most people screw up their crop by not properly addressing these crucial steps. After many years of paying very close attention, I have concluded that when I sample or judge any herb, the importance of these four factors means that I'm actually judging the grower more than the strain itself. Since most growers aren't addressing these four crucial steps properly, their finished product is generally inferior to what's ultimately possible.

Growing Organically

Herb must be organically grown. In order for ganja to express its full, dazzling array of flavors and all the subtle subtones that come along with it, it simply must be grown organically. I know that many hydro growers would disagree with me until the end of time, but it's true. Being the author of the Cannabibles, I have been fortunate enough to sample many different growers' attempts at the same strain, even from clones, and with the exception of the Chem strain, the organic always tastes better. [For the full story of the Chem, see “Cannabible 2, page 46.] This is not to say that properly grown hydro can't taste delicious. Sometimes it can be very delicious indeed. But that same strain grown organically will have a more diverse and satisfying flavor, and certainly a better aftertaste.

I can understand why hydro growers were resistant to switch then or twenty years ago --- organic methods were too heavy, stinky, and messy. Luckily, this isn't the case today. Many brands of organic fertilizers and liquefied nutrients are potent and easy to use, manageable, not too messy or smelly, and affordable as well. Any good grow store should have a selection of such products. But the big reason most chemical hydro growers continue to use chemicals is because they think their bottom line --- yield --- would suffer by going organic. This is simply not the case. If expertly grown, organic methods will yield just as much as chemical ones, if not more. I've conducted experiments that have proven this time and time again. And even if the yield were a little less, considering that the quality is greatly enhanced, it would still be worth it. Better herb is worth more money, if that's what you're looking for.

The bottom line is this: Plants, like humans, do not want to be fed [or treated with] chemicals. A human can live [for a while] on fast food, cigarettes, and beer, but they won't thrive. It's the same with plants. Thought chemically fed hydroponic plants might look healthy on the outside for a while, they aren't thriving on the inside. All the chemicals only serve to weaken the defenses of the plant, just like they do in a human. Nature's way of dealing with these weakened plants? She sends bugs, viruses, molds, and other pathogens to eliminate the weak specimens. [Survival of the fittest, remember?] Again, this is the same way it works with humans. The answer, contrary to what the chemical peddlers will tell you, is not to spray on more chemicals! You need only take a brief glimpse at what chemical agriculture has done to modern farming and farmers to understand this. Millions of acres of rich, fertile farmland have been reduced to barren, toxic, dead wasteland as a result of repeated douses with what our government calls “safe” chemicals and fertilizers. Why repeat this destructive cycle in your grow?

Consider this --- one of the main techniques I use to judge herb is to roll a joint [with a Club rolling paper] and pay particular attention to the second half of the joint. This is where the true test comes in. Any decent herb can taste good on the first few hits of a joint, but it's truly special herb that tastes great right down to the last hit, with the roach burning your fingers. Most of the herb I come across tastes like hot tarry smoke by the second half of a joint, a major drawback in my book. Probably grown [and flushed!] organic herb almost always tastes great right down to the end of a joint. Chemically grown herb almost always tastes like “schwill” by the second half of a joint. Try this experiment yourself; I think you'll see what I mean. The second half of a bowl or bong load clearly reveals the benefits of organics. With chemically fed hydro, you end up with a black cruddy bail of harsh carcinogens, while properly grown organics taste delicious down to the last hit, and the residue blows away as a clean, gray ash.

Flushing

Herb must be flushed properly. This is another big one that most growers don't seem to get. In order for ganja to reach its ultimate potential quality, the plants must be cut off from food and thoroughly flushed with clean water for several weeks or more before harvest. Of course, this step is much more important when harsh chemical fertilizers are used than with orgaic methods. But it's necessary with any setup if you're to achieve ultimate quality. The amount of flush time varies depending on the situation, but I generally recommend stopping all feeding and switching to pure water approximately one month before harvest. This timing can be shortened for indoor plants or lengthened for outdoor plants, depending on container size, the fertilizers used, the strains grown, and a number of other factors. This gives the plant time to finish all its remaining food, at which point the leaves will start changing colors and the plant yelloing, which is part of its natural life cycle.

Yes, you might be able to crank out another few grams or so by feeding your plants up to the end or close to it, but isn't the aim for ultimate quality, not quantity? Cannabis plants that are allowed to yellow on their path to senescence have a much more beautiful and complex flavor when smoked or vaporized than plants that are bright green right up to harvest. Again, I have done experiments that have proven this again and again. Skipping this step is one of the main factors that just about ruins most Canadian and Dutch commercial herb. [I know I will get flak for that one, but I also know that there are many connoisseurs who completely agree with me on this point!]

Curing

Herb must be cured properly. Curign is such an important step in producitn fine herb but sadly is so often ignored or neglected. I believe this is because often the demand for ganja is so great that people will buy herb that hasn't been dried properly, let alone cured! Also, I think many growers are ignorant of not only the importance of this step but how to do it, as well. I am constantly amazed at how often I see herb that is genetically excellent, grown very well, harvested properly, dried properly, then sold or consumed without being cured and therefore only half as tasty as it could have been.

The curing process is quite simple: After the herb has dried to the point that a stem will snap if bent, the medicine is transferred to glass jars [preferably]. [Airtight plastic containers or other clean and sealable containers can be used if the quantity is too large to jar.] Over the next couple of weeks, several times per day if possible, the jars are opened briefly. This allows the gases trapped inside the jar to escape, essentially “sweating” the nugs to golden perfection. This process also allows the last moisture hiding deep inside the buds to find its way out. During the curing process, the ganja's smell will change from a slightly vegetative stink to a near orgasmic and lusciously diverse aroma [depending on the strain of course!]. Not only is the flavor greatly enhanced by curing, the high also improves. The medicine will smoke better as well, burning more evenly. But most importantly, a multitude of delicious flavors that otherwise would have gone unnoticed and unappreciated will reveal themselves. One last point: Herb that has been cured properly doesn't even need to be squeezed, and therefore degraded, to smell its best. Just opening a jar of properly cured cannabis will make your mouth water!

Handling

Herb must be handled delicately. Don't even get me started on this one! Cannabis flowers are incredibly fragile and delicate. I cannot stress this point enough. This is the single biggest reason most pot sucks. By the time it reaches the smoker's lungs, most herb has been manhandled to the point where it is probably half as potent and tasty as it would have been if handled properly. This degradation usually starts when the plants are still alive, as people will squeeze the buds to get a smell, bump into them, drag them along the ground, and otherwise subject them to a variety of insults. During and after harvest they are manhandled even more as they are broken down, transported, hung, trimmed, moved around, dropped and so on. Every time they're touched they degrade. It's that simple.

In order to produce what I call connoisseur-grade herb, incredible care must be taken at every single step of the process to ensure that the flowers are touched, disturbed, or molested as little as possible. This means all the way to the bong, joint, or vaporizer, where most people will roll up a little ball of herb and stick it in the bowl, getting their fingers nice and sticky in the process. That lovely smelling sticky feeling on your fingers --- that's the best part of the hit, which will now be wasted. Take it from me; I spend a lot of time looking at fine cannabis under a microscope at high magnification, so I have become hyperaware of just how delicate the flowers are, noticing how each time they're even just barely touched so many resin glands are knocked off or exploded.

And what is the first thing most people do when packing a bong load? They stick their finger on it and smash it down into the bowl, even if it didn't need it, thereby removing pretty much all the resin from the top. This is my pet peeve! Personally, I use scissors [always the same pair] to cut off the piece I'm going to smoke and use the metal blade to push the herb into the bowl, not letting my fingers or hands get sticky at all. Yes, you lose a little on the scissors, but at least it stays there and builds up for easy collection, which isn't the case if you use your fingers. And rolling a joint? This pretty much decimates the herb if you break it up with your [very sticky] fingers. I highly recommend the use of an herb grinder [available everywhere] for breaking up the herb. Yes, it does knock off resin, but again, it builds up inside the grinder and can be collected. As another side note, let me mention that the grower of some of the best herb in this book never touches, let alone squeezes, his flowers, and before he let me into his garden, I was told not to either! I was happy to oblige.

None of these four crucial steps adds any cost, yet they are so often skipped or neglected. It does not have to be this way. Believe it or not, most of the compressed schwaggy herb grown in Mexico, Jamaica, Africa, and many other commercial herb centers of the world would have been absolutely fantastic if you or I had harvested the plants and cared for them from that point on. Please grow or demand cannabis that is organic, flushed, cured, and handled like the delicate flower it is, and we will watch the quality of marijuana shoot way up to the highest heights on a worldwide basis! And lastly, please love your plants, as this has been proven to have a wonderful effect on plants and their growers! One Love.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:09 AM

Wow!

That is the most well-reasoned, coherent argument I have ever heard in favor of organics.

I'm not easily swayed. But, you have convinced me of the advantages of organic growing.

The part about us not wanting to live on chemicals probably did the trick, by the way.

But, good-tasting roaches is what really interests me. :rollone:

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:33 AM

This is an excerpt in it's entirety taken from pages 145-147 of the Cannabible 3 written by Jason King. I enjoyed it so much I decided to type it up and share it. I hope you enjoy it as well.

Why most pot sucks

As my appreciation for fine cannabis grows, I have become more aware of the shortcomings of most of today's herb. Upon careful examination of these shortcomings, I've determined that the same four problems plague a surprisingly high percentage of today's kind bud. And it's not the genetics! Most of the strains that people grow nowadays would produce amazing medicine if grown, flushed, cured, and handled properly. This is especially sad when you consider that the hardest part is already finished by the time most people screw up their crop by not properly addressing these crucial steps. After many years of paying very close attention, I have concluded that when I sample or judge any herb, the importance of these four factors means that I'm actually judging the grower more than the strain itself. Since most growers aren't addressing these four crucial steps properly, their finished product is generally inferior to what's ultimately possible.

Growing Organically

One Love.



I'm a brand new, seed in a cup on the windowsill, then dug a hole in the backyard grower, because, well isn't that the way it goes? :rollone:

And my partner is a hydro indoor grower with many many years of experience and WE are combining our methods on my desert property.

watering system :love:

lighting :love:

he he he

A little experiment. :rain:
I have volunteered to be taste tester :rollone:

Love the article. Will read it many times over, I am sure.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:41 AM

NOW I finally understand why that weed got me so high in the 70s. It was organically grown! I have been seriously wondering. How the hell did I get so high on that stuff? It was all pretty much outdoor organically grown schwag back then and we were TOASTED often! :rollone:
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 05:20 PM

HookerRoad, Great Post, All I Use Are Organic Nut.'s & Supplement's. Taste Awesome, Burn's Very Smooth, Stink's Like Road-Kill Even Just In Veg., Last Week's Of Flowering Reek Bad, And As Far As Potency, You Are Very, Very, Very Stoned Right Before Your Nap!!!HEHEHEHE
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 09:41 AM

HookerRoad,

Great Post, All I Use Are Organic Nut.'s & Supplement's. Taste Awesome, Burn's Very Smooth, Stink's Like Road-Kill Even Just In Veg., Last Week's Of Flowering Reek Bad, And As Far As Potency, You Are Very, Very, Very Stoned Right Before Your Nap!!!HEHEHEHE



sounds like a real nice damn nap! think i'll take one of those today lol
:rollone:
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 09:48 AM

I'd like to know how much education Jason has in Chemistry. Some statements of his are ridiculous.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 09:56 AM

I'd like to know how much education Jason has in Chemistry.

Some statements of his are ridiculous.


for your feedback.I knew you would get here sooner or later. Knowing your background, I knew your response would be interesting. I personally would like to hear where the discrepancies are so I can better decipher the facts from fiction. If you ever get a chance.. Thanks.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 11:18 AM

I'd like to know how much education Jason has in Chemistry.

Some statements of his are ridiculous.

why are his statements ridiculous please? if i use a synthetic substance for something in replacement of the original organic form you encounter sudden effects as toxicity or unknown side effects. if you synthesize a molecule you always end up with form A and B, now A is the same molecule as organic form and B is a byproduct that is causing the trouble.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 11:40 AM

I remembering seeing a molecular drawing of the complex molecules of LSD side by side with the complex molecule of Psilocybin Cubensis mushrooms. Of course LSD being the synthesized molecule. There was only one difference between the two, one of the element clusters (or whatever it's called) had an extra oxygen molecule. I never had any chemistry classes but a friend of mine showed it to me; he was studying to be a pharmacist. Now I've ingested both in my youth, and they were both similar in the high. But one thing I noticed was the hallucinations from the LSD seemed to be more geometrical in the way that they formed... and also they seemed to be more evasive, if that makes any sense. But the hallucinations from the mushrooms seemed to flow like oil does when floating on water. No real pattern and you felt comfortable, like you were flowing with the oil as well. Hey, I don't do that stuff anymore but the man made stuff sure was different. You really crash and burn after an intense LSD trip. The mushrooms however, Smooth as silk the next day. You might be a little mellow or should I say... Slooowww... but no real crash at all. I think that's the difference one molecule can make. So organic in my mind is far superior for the simple reason... we are organic, the plant is organic, why not feed us both organic. It might just keep us all from crashing and burning.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 11:43 AM

I would also like to hear Dez's point of view. It's not unusual - no, it's super common - for people to smoke weed and think that somehow gives them inside info, or some special insight, about how things work. This is where we get crazy ideas like removing fan leaves and stuff like that. I also have a great deal of respect for facts. So, science is something I almost worship. I would appreciate it, very much, if we could hear what Dez has to say. But, Dez, I think you could be more tactful. Words like "ridiculous" hurt peoples' feelings and are counter-productive to all parties. You could have just as easily said there are some issues with some of his statements or that he simply made some mistakes. Thank you for your understanding.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 11:51 AM

It's not unusual - no, it's super common - for people to smoke weed and think that somehow gives them inside info, or some special insight, about how things work. This is where we get crazy ideas like removing fan leaves and stuff like that.


The crazy idea you are talking about is called pruning. Pruning is not a crazy idea people just thought up out of the blue. It is a practice farmers have used since they began tilling the soil many centuries before any of us were born. Some plants like pruning... some not so much. It's been my observation that most strains of marijuana pretty much like it, and sometimes especially in an indoor grow to allow light to penetrate to the lower buds during flowering.

But just like anything, over doing it can be hazardous. Pruning is an art.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 11:55 AM

Ouch! Kinda condescending, huh? Luckily, I'm immune. The crazy idea I'm talking about is pulling all the fan leaves off a plant as if they are stealing the nutrients from the bud. Those leaves are where the plant carries out almost all it's photosynthesis. <sarcasm>I think that might be important.</sarcasm>

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 12:14 PM

im an organic seed in the dirt type of guy, and i agree that weed is misshanled, but jason seems to have a vendetta against hydro growers. ive smoked some hydro that was excellent, and yes i prefer the taste of organics, but to each his own. no need to call out hydros in effect pretty much calling them idiots for still growing hydro. they are doing something that takes more skill than i have, and i respect them for that.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 12:21 PM

very very good read

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 12:40 PM

Ouch! Kinda condescending, huh?

Luckily, I'm immune.

The crazy idea I'm talking about is pulling all the fan leaves off a plant as if they are stealing the nutrients from the bud.

Those leaves are where the plant carries out almost all it's photosynthesis.

<sarcasm>I think that might be important.</sarcasm>


I thought the "crazy" comment was way more condescending. I thought I just needed to squash the idea that pruning was a "crazy" thing to do. It probably is if you don't know how to do it. I'm not much into pruning during the flowering phase of the grow, its done more for shaping and health reasons. But I have no problem with removing fan leaves, but it must be done proportionally. But even if over done all you really do is add a week or two to your finishing time. The plant keeps making them until she is deep into flower.

If you read all of the article you will notice he talked about the fan leaves dying off as a natural part of the cycle of the plant anyway. So plucking them off shortly before they start dying can actually helps a plant. How much... probably not much, but like I said before it can be an issue indoor. That's why some growers bother to get their lights on tracks and move them.

Photosynthesis really slows down near the end of the plants life cycle anyway thereby reducing the importance of the fan leaves. Which is another reason they begin to yellow and die anyway.

You could have used a better crazy idea example like "drive nails in the stalk to help give it iron." Now that's a crazy idea. :rollone:

Forgive me if I sounded a bit tart, not my intention. One of the reasons I type a few more words than most posters is I know how easy it is to be misunderstood by the written word... a lot of readers do more skimming to... so I'm not sure it really helps. But short abbreviated phrases can sometimes lack the intended meaning.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 08:13 PM

Much to my embarrassment, the fan leaf example was all I could come up with at the time. I was having short-term memory issues. :pot leaf: My philosophy on fan leaves is simple. When the plant doesn't need them any more, it robs them of all the transportable nutrients - mostly nitrogen - and seals them off from the plant. At this point, in nature, a breeze will blow them off. Again, this only matters if you take it to extremes. But, every time you cut a plant, it's a lot like cutting an animal. It makes a scab and the plant spends energy healing that wound. If you are constantly cutting on your plants, they are constantly spending resources healing the wounds you are inflicting, rather than sending that same energy to the growing tips. As long as I'm on the subject, it's also a good idea to support as much of your plants' weight as possible. That way, your plants will not waste energy building thick, woody trunks. The way I see it (and the plant, too), I send all the energy I can to the growing tips. Anything other use of energy is wasted, by definition. The exception that proves the rule is roots. The bigger the roots, the more biomass your plants will have (they'll be bigger and so will the buds). But, as many have said, there is a style of growing for every grower. I only try to stop people from passing off bad advice as expertise. That is strictly for the benefit of new growers who haven't studied botany. They shouldn't have to wade through a mountain of BS to get to the real science. Science is king when it comes to effective husbandry. Everything else is fairy tales. That's just my opinion, of course.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 08:51 PM

Much to my embarrassment, the fan leaf example was all I could come up with at the time. I was having short-term memory issues. :pot leaf:

Been there done that.:bonk:

My philosophy on fan leaves is simple. When the plant doesn't need them any more, it robs them of all the transportable nutrients - mostly nitrogen - and seals them off from the plant. At this point, in nature, a breeze will blow them off.

Again, this only matters if you take it to extremes. But, every time you cut a plant, it's a lot like cutting an animal. It makes a scab and the plant spends energy healing that wound. If you are constantly cutting on your plants, they are constantly spending resources healing the wounds you are inflicting, rather than sending that same energy to the growing tips.


I actually agree with this statement. But the idea that it causes long lasting injury I disagree with. Which I don't think is exactly what you are saying. It will slow a plant down temporarily. If time is an issue this can be a little troublesome. I have noticed a day or two stall every time you cut on your plant, but then I also notice after that time it seems to blast out again, telling me it actually liked the pruning even though it hurt for a bit. My theory, although not scientifically verifiable, is that the root mass will support a certain amount of plant mass. So by reducing the plant mass the plant stalls to heal itself and then kicks into gear to equalize the plant mass to root mass ratio. But again like I said previously some plants like it better than others... same with different strains. Which is probably the main source of disagreement on this subject.

Noobee's please ignore this discussion. Always err on the side of caution. I thought I'd throw that disclaimer in there.

As long as I'm on the subject, it's also a good idea to support as much of your plants' weight as possible. That way, your plants will not waste energy building thick, woody trunks.

The way I see it (and the plant, too), I send all the energy I can to the growing tips. Anything other use of energy is wasted, by definition. The exception that proves the rule is roots. The bigger the roots, the more biomass your plants will have (they'll be bigger and so will the buds).


I think we are really on the same page here. In essence I think this is pretty much the way I just explained it, just said in a different way. I'm glad you are a root mass guy. I got in an argument on another site about root mass and this goof ball said root mass had nothing to do with the plants health or potency. He was trying to make the case that it is what you feed it that does that. He said he saw a 6 foot plant grown to maturity with huge buds grown in a dixie cup. Mogie said she saw that picture too... it was obviously a photoshop trick... a cute joke. Unfortunately some people can't tell a joke when they see one.

But, as many have said, there is a style of growing for every grower. I only try to stop people from passing off bad advice as expertise. That is strictly for the benefit of new growers who haven't studied botany. They shouldn't have to wade through a mountain of BS to get to the real science.

Science is king when it comes to effective husbandry. Everything else is fairy tales.

That's just my opinion, of course.


I call the mountain of BS "Myths and Superstitions." Same diff... different lingo.

Sorry for the confusion... sometimes my knee jerks so hard I get a black eye.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 09:17 PM

LOL Yeah, I got that damned crazy knee thing, too. If I wasn't at a desk, I'd have a couple black eyes and a very broken nose.

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 10:36 PM

Ive lost sooooooooooooooo many resin glands now!LOLmaybe if I keep my dirty mits off of them 30 days will be enough to maybe recoup some of them. I know one thing I aint touchin a bud or knockin em around one bit from now on.
This section opened my eyes.
He did forget to mention one small detail concerning smoking and that was that Butane and other fuel lighters ruin cannabis the second an open flame hits it.
This was awesome though Thank You very much!
Love and Peace,
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:15 AM

I don't think that you can argue that natural is more often than not the way to go. You look at the human body, Any foreign substance you put in your body has some sort of negative affect. Take steroids for example. People take them for a quick enhancement which I would compare to synthetic nuts. Sure its a quick boost but what is it doing in the long run. I would argue nothing but bad for the most part. The marijuana plant is a natural thing made by God. The plan for it is already written and I think if you stay as close to that as you can. You may not get the biggest buds, but you most certainly will get the healthiest and the healthier product for you body. Don't hate me its just an opinion...

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 02:33 AM

bigsmileythumbsupgood info hooker. you know your stuff bro.smhug.gif

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 06:04 AM

I found this thread very informative, thanks ! One thing I would like to add to the discussion regarding fan leaves, although I am a noob, I have always thought it good to severe individual finger leaf sections which are blocking the light from reaching a bud site growing below a fan leaf. Snipping one or two of the blades away, rather than removing the entire leaf may help lessen the damage while providing that extra bit of light to the lower buds. Any thoughts on this ?

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 06:52 AM

I found this thread very informative, thanks !
One thing I would like to add to the discussion regarding fan leaves, although I am a noob, I have always thought it good to severe individual finger leaf sections which are blocking the light from reaching a bud site growing below a fan leaf. Snipping one or two of the blades away, rather than removing the entire leaf may help lessen the damage while providing that extra bit of light to the lower buds.

Any thoughts on this ?


I'm not that careful. Actually I don't think taking the whole leaf is any more stressful than taking part of it... but I've never taken just a part so I have never witnessed the plants reaction to this.

This I do know... most cannabis plants don't mind a little pruning. In fact some love it. I have an apple tree in the back yard that I cut down because of stump rot. The next year it shot up a bunch of saplings. I cut them all down again except for the biggest, healthiest, straightest one. In two years it was the same size as the tree I cut down.

It's the root system that dictates the size of a plant... any plant. Cannabis is no different. By reducing the amount of foliage on a cannabis plant, via pruning, you reduce the mass of the plant above ground. The plant wants to match, or come back into balance with the root system and will grow at an accelerated rate until it balances out. You can cut back so much that the plant stalls and you don't gain anything... but you don't actually gain anything at all really... it just looks like it. The plant is simply getting back to the size it should be.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 06:58 AM

I don't think that you can argue that natural is more often than not the way to go. You look at the human body, Any foreign substance you put in your body has some sort of negative affect. Take steroids for example. People take them for a quick enhancement which I would compare to synthetic nuts. Sure its a quick boost but what is it doing in the long run. I would argue nothing but bad for the most part. The marijuana plant is a natural thing made by God. The plan for it is already written and I think if you stay as close to that as you can. You may not get the biggest buds, but you most certainly will get the healthiest and the healthier product for you body. Don't hate me its just an opinion...


I don't hate you... I whole heartedly agree. This thread was intended to tweak the hydro boys just a bit. All in good fun, but Marijuana is a plant after all. Nature provides everything a plant needs. A plant is made to breath and eat in a soil that feeds it naturally. When I view most peoples hydro set-ups with their plants in mid flower, the plants just don't look happy to me. They look more like I do when I get up 3 hours too early. All frazzled and unkept.
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