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#1 Verwegener

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 08:32 AM

I was asked by a guy from down under to show my "this year´s grow", I was a bit reluctant to do this as I am planning to grow with some risk. Now that I will get the medicine prescribed I am not under the pressure of succsess, and will do what I am thinking of since years, gardening with low level intervention, means standard soil, and feeding with a standard tomatoe fertilizer (made from sugar beet molasses, nitrogen 7 % , phosphorus 4 % , potassum 12 % , magnesium 0,4 %) nothing more. Since years I got the impression all this tricky, smart equipment, superdooper extra special bloomgrow liquids just might get the producer rich. Just my presumtion.

And, for the very first time, I will try to breed some seeds, ideally a female Pink Kush and a male Trap Star, will see if I get that couple...

There we go, starting 2 days after first repotting, germinated in wet and dark compresses (I prefer instead of paper tissues etc.) 4 weeks ago, getting the first root tips, directly into small pots with soil, keeping slightly moist. 2 days ago repotted them in bigger shoes (not my White Widow autoflowering, she will be settled directly outdoors into ground in my garden next week). At the time I can see the first root tips at the holes of the pots they will be repotted to the final shoes and moved to the greenhouse. That time I have the impression the plants get hungry as the soil is exhausted I will gently add some standard tomatoe fertilizer, even in the flowering period, but then very slightly.

What I have today:

- Trap Star reg.
- Pink Kush reg.
- Painkiller XL fem.
- California Orange reg.
- Amnezia Haze/Bubble Gum reg.
- Chocolate Haze fem.
- Sweet Skunk Automatic reg.
and a White Widow autoflower fem.

Peace, Martin

 

 

3 pics of the usual first stages, here the White Widow autoflowering fem.

And today´s status.

 

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#2 IammuA

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 02:39 PM

bigsmileythumbsup

 

Y dont need the entire advanced nutrients lineup and $5K worth of equipment to grow some great bud hehehe.

 

Looking forward to ya grow. The plants might need a little added P when in full flower but otherwise, regular feeding should work wonders....even the regular feeding th@comes from soil.

 

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 03:07 PM

bigsmileythumbsup :Where Dreams are: :gardening-smiley-emoticon:


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Posted 21 May 2017 - 03:48 PM

Forum failure, somehow the pics are gone, shortly after starting the topic, new try:

 

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 01:11 AM

I don't have a clue how to post pics, so don't fret!  I just stepped into the 21st century a few months back, and got a smartphone....guess I should ask my kids!

 

Quite the variety, although I am only familiar with white widow.  How much space are you working with...outdoors in a greenhouse?


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:31 AM

Haha, Suzy, even I have such a smart thing allegedly doing everything (except having a beer tap),

I spent more time searching for it than using...

 

This year I had mainly regular seeds, and planning to breed some seeds, therefore I germinated enough

seeds to be on the safe side getting enough Females.

 

My greenhouse has enough space for 8 Plants, if there are more females I will give them away to a friend.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:46 AM

good luck 


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 08:51 AM

Looks like a nice genetic variety, all you gotta do is keep them alive for a couple months, good luck. :laughleaf: Curious about the tomato nutrient, my success with Jack's brand has opened my eyes to how expensive the product-specific nutes are by comparison. Still experimenting with different products here, but not really seeing the benefit of high priced nutes for a typical grow, more about cal/mag supplementation around here, because they are lacking in the local water.


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:36 AM

The idea using that organic tomatoe fert came to me as I grew up some hop plants, got them from a nearby farmer who plants them commercially and he suggested this cheap nutriant.

Got big hop plants, and as hop is the nearest relative to cannabis...., will see what comes out.

 

Peace, Martin


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 11:38 AM

Looks like a nice genetic variety, all you gotta do is keep them alive for a couple months, good luck. :laughleaf: Curious about the tomato nutrient, my success with Jack's brand has opened my eyes to how expensive the product-specific nutes are by comparison. Still experimenting with different products here, but not really seeing the benefit of high priced nutes for a typical grow, more about cal/mag supplementation around here, because they are lacking in the local water.

 

 

Tomato and chili nutes are nearly perfect for cannabis. I've talked about this before http://www.greenpass...m/?fromsearch=1 also a good basic primer  http://generalhortic...t/nutrient.html


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Posted 24 May 2017 - 05:38 AM

OH, MY! :o those pics are superb! The purple is visible on the seedling cots pic! WOW!

 

I have heard of tomato nutes being used for growing Cannabis also...there are a few plant food mixes out there th@ cannabis grows well with. When push comes to shove, in the end its just a nutrient ratio you are trying to meet for the plants. Sure, there are some nutes cannabis can really use a lot of but most general nutes can grow great cannabis.

One just needs to consider the lifecycle/timeline of the plant and give higher N during veg and higher P during flowering... supplements of things like silica or magnesium or lime etc can be added if and as needed.

 

Your seedlings in the group picture all seem to be reaching up, growing tall. If this were an inside grow I would say the light is too far from the seedlings and lower the light....as I have a very limited experience with outside growing I cannot see a solution for low light conditions.... I believe you have started these plants as early as you can and sunlight is not yet really bright enough to inhibit the stretching of the seedlings. [If I am wrong in these suppositions, someone please shout out and let me know, eh? :D: hehehe]

 

This is no great worry though, the plants will grow just as healthily when the get a little bigger. :)

 

How big are the final plants you hope to end up with?

If grown in the ground they can get enormous but when growing in pots there are limits.

 

General rules of thumb are you get about an ounce of bud for every 12" or foot of vertical growth on a potted plant and you need a gallon or 4 liters or soil for each 12" or foot of growth.

 

I am very much looking forward to seeing these plants grow and bloom for you! :D: heheheh

 

chewiegif

 

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 06:00 AM

Yep, lammuA, they started indoors under 2x125 W CFL (energy saving), and they are stretched, but I always do that and they will grow up sturdier next

days, I just have to tie them for a while. Previously I set the lights to 18/6 and soon after they moved outdoors/greenhouse they showed strange new leafs

like duckfoot, then I realised the difference to sunlight period..., now I set the lights to the time according to the day they move outdoors.

 

This time I for sure will use smaller pots, remembering that monster last year that broke through the roof.....

 

Peace, Martin

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 06:41 AM

I'm guessing they where way to tall....lol


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Posted 25 May 2017 - 11:47 AM

Its them greenhouses they build so tiny, pb Hysterical

 

The change in the lighting periods could very well have something to do with the stretch, Martin. 

You say you started them under CFL's....how close to them were the seedlings? one can get them as close to the CFL as possible and not burn them....sometimes as close a a few inches :D

 

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 12:50 PM

Well, this time I had the problem with 19 seedlings instead of the usual up to 10, so to make a fair balance for all,

I had to position the two bulbs a bit higher. Will afford an additional next year!

But that big plant last year started as well very stretched, so I don´t worry.

 

The "Painkiller" and the "Trap Star" doubled their height to 31 cm within 5 days, the "Sweet Skunk" is

the baby with 9 cm actally, the others are in between.

What you see on the last pic I don´t like that much, but they never attacked my plants seriously, on the

contrary I always see them as dead bodies sticked to the stems, what I consider to be an effect of the plant´s defence forces.

 

Peace, Martin

 

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 01:46 PM

http://pestproapp.com/

 

http://bugguide.net/node/view/15740

 

http://ento.psu.edu/...c/insect-images

 

https://www.whatstha...whats-that-bug/

 

http://www.insectidentification.org/

 

http://www.cliffpaul...e-net-its-free/

 

These may help :) hehehe

 

Looking good! Getting a good spread of light under a CFL is a PITA [PainInTheArse]

 

This is gonna be an interesting grow! muahaha

 

muA


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Posted 29 May 2017 - 10:41 AM

So far the plants doing good. The "Trap Stars" and "Cali-Os" grow fast, will top them in one of

the upcoming nights.

 

Second pic the White Widow autoflowering at her stealth place.

Third pic is a Cali-O, one of the parts I am staring at all the time...(not the greenfly, it´s a dead body bigsmileythumbsup )

 

Peace, Martin

 

 

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 12:51 PM

Good start M!  I try to keep my veg at a somewhat level canopy by raising the smaller girls up on something like a turned-down pot or grouping

on a milk crate.  I found some smaller crates at Big Lots, which are perfect, but doubt you have one in your neighborhood.

How far away is your light?


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Posted 29 May 2017 - 01:29 PM

"How far away is your light?"

 

thinking.gif    Something around 149.600.000 km......,

they are under daylight, a bit protected, on a table on the patio.

Mid of June they stroll to greenhouse, when sex shows, a male and a female get a location at the patio.


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Posted 29 May 2017 - 08:04 PM

What is that blue ring on the ground in the second picture? Fertilizer? Been adding my dry nutes to water, usually at 1/4 strength, then water most every day. You have a very nice variety going, got any tips about "special" strains? I am still stunned by the Fire OGxLucky Charms, think that is what they are selling as Duraflame in Boulder, CO.


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Posted 30 May 2017 - 05:57 AM

That blue corn is a (organic) protection against slugs!

 

The Pink Kush (Reeferman) is a strain I waited more than 8 years to get some seeds, the Trap Star seeds (Exotic Genetix) were a lucky punch

after a thrilling journey from Oregon to my home.

 

Peace, Martin


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Posted 30 May 2017 - 06:07 AM

may need to fim the tops


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Posted 30 May 2017 - 06:38 AM

may need to fim the tops

...within 2 days from now, during night time


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Posted 30 May 2017 - 12:55 PM

"How far away is your light?"

 

thinking.gif    Something around 149.600.000 km......,

they are under daylight, a bit protected, on a table on the patio.

Mid of June they stroll to greenhouse, when sex shows, a male and a female get a location at the patio.

LOL  I need to pay closer attention, as I reread the posts...generally I like to avoid the stretch myself, but everyone's methods are different.


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Posted 02 June 2017 - 04:17 AM

Topped 9 plants last night

 

 

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