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#1 sawyer05

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 02:19 PM

Hey all, I started a new grow yesterday and I'll be logging it throughout the process. I popped a fem White Widow bean from Dinafem I got as a freebie yesterday. I'm using my same setup as before, 11 cfls, carbon filter, etc. This time I'm growing a photoperiod plant instead of an auto. Also only one plant instead of 2 or 3 like I did last time, I'd like to put all my attention on one plant and get everything right. I bought some different soil to try out. Anyways, I'll be updating this fairly regularly once it pops up. Any tips for my first photo plant appreciated. 


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 03:58 PM

Good luck on the grow, are you switching the kelvin of lamps from veg to flower or using the same cfl's the whole run?


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#3 sawyer05

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 04:22 PM

Thank you, I was planning on running 6500k in veg and switching to 2500k or 2700k in flower. 


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 04:43 PM

Perfect, is that what you did on your last run?


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#5 sawyer05

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 05:22 PM

Last time I ran an autoflower strain, Afghan Kush Ryder. I never changed my lights and I want to say I have 8 2700k and 3 6500k. Something like that, so it's mostly 2700k. I just kinda mixed it up. 


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 05:49 PM

Ok, have always started under cfls and then switched to HIDs after that. Never tried to flower under 2700 cfls. I would love to know hao the density and structure are under a full flower of 2700 cfls just for comparison sake so I look forward to your grow finishing under CFL's @2700 during flower.


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#7 sawyer05

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 07:52 PM

I wish I could have an HID but I just don't have the room for it. I'm also curious how it will turn out. Hopefully well lol. 


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 08:19 PM

Hey Guys... just thought I'd jump in here and give you an idea of what can be done under JUST cfl's....

https://www.greenpas...e-5#entry483359

 

That's my journal... my closet is run under nothing but cfls and this is the type of results I get.   Take a looksee... and if ya need anything just give a yell.    They really work very well when ya can't go bigger for whatever reason. 

 

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 11:17 PM

Thats awesome kitty, you have some skills for sure :). How many do you normally use? From your picture it looks like 12-14 or more? I have 11 right now, do you think that's sufficient? My box is 2'x4'with flat white walls. I'd like to put a few more on the bottom to give more light to the bottom half of the plant when it gets bigger.
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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:12 AM

Start training that lady early, brother. She's gonna get biigg.


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:53 AM

good luck with her


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 06:41 AM

Thats awesome kitty, you have some skills for sure :). How many do you normally use? From your picture it looks like 12-14 or more? I have 11 right now, do you think that's sufficient? My box is 2'x4'with flat white walls. I'd like to put a few more on the bottom to give more light to the bottom half of the plant when it gets bigger.

That should do you well... my closet is a bit bigger than yours.. hadda go look at my journal to know for sure LOL!  Here's the setup I have https://www.greenpas...e-6#entry485955

 

The main problem with cfl's is there really isn't any light penetration so you have to open the plant up to get the light through.   And you can do like you were thinking... surround them with the cfls.  With these the more the merrier if you have the space and can keep the heat under control... just no touchy the plants.. they will fry them LOL... yepper.. found that our real fast! 

 

Hope this helps.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 06:55 AM

looking forward to seeing this run good luck sawyer :D

 

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:33 AM

Yep, for cfl's either/or lst the plants or use filler lights to make up for lack of penetration.


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#15 sawyer05

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:02 PM

Thank you all for the kind words and encouragement! My seeds in a solo cup now, will the pot I transplant to be too big or is it good? 

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:29 PM

Think I might get one kind of in the middle of the 2 sizes.... that's a bit big and if you're not very careful you will end up over watering and starving her before she needs more.  

 

Wishin you the best.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:22 PM

Thanks kitty! No big deal pots are cheap. How long should you usually wait before translating? 


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 06:50 AM

Thanks kitty! No big deal pots are cheap. How long should you usually wait before translating? 

Kind of depends.. you want the roots well established in the pot they are in without really becoming rootbound enough to affect growth.   Each strain and environment is going to be a bit different so there's no way I can really give you a timeline there.   I believe someone once said that when the plant gets as tall as the pot is a good way to judge. 

 

Hope this helps

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 10:06 PM

Thanks, sounds like a good rule of thumb to go by. 



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Posted 09 June 2014 - 10:12 PM

Think I might get one kind of in the middle of the 2 sizes.... that's a bit big and if you're not very careful you will end up over watering and starving her before she needs more.  

 

Wishin you the best.

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I am having that problem with my 5 gal pot...I would suggest something smaller as well.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 10:23 PM

sawyer, I am new to growing and just started on my first plant. Great support on this site from everyone so don't hesitate to ask questions. I am using clf's as well and kitty is my go-to-girl as she has know how to do it with clf's! But everyone here has great knowledge, experinece, and the willingness to help. I will be following you on your journey, best of luck with your grow.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 12:47 AM

Yeah, sawyer, be prepared to train a lot. Big difference between auto's and photoperiods as I found out. The girls from this run are MUUCHH bigger. They're bigger now than when the Easy Ryders finished and they're just a week or two truly into flower.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:43 AM

Yeah, sawyer, be prepared to train a lot. Big difference between auto's and photoperiods as I found out. The girls from this run are MUUCHH bigger. They're bigger now than when the Easy Ryders finished and they're just a week or two truly into flower.

Hehehe... there's just NO comparison between regs and auto's for sure!   I started with them too .. had no place for dark time to flower LOLOL... boy.. what a wakeup call that was! 

 

Have fun!

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 09:29 AM

It's a matter of genetics, the Ruderalis genes are survival oriented not growth oriented....

 

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:11 PM

This plant will be dedicated to one of my best friends who took his own life today. In a pretty dark place right now. Sorry I haven't replied. Thank you all for the tips and advice. My ww is popping its little head up.
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