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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:57 AM
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:16 AM
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:28 AM
Edited by checkmate, 22 August 2013 - 10:30 AM.
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#4
Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:18 PM
Would something like this do
http://item.mobilewe...Id=390426777495
There are various versions of this pot still.
I have got the adjustable one, called SmartStill Mark II over here.
To test it I poured cheap 37% Vodka in, it produced 85% ethanol.
That is as high as you can get using a pot still.
I use it just to reclaim the alcohol.
If you were on the European mainland you could buy your ethanol here.
Or even in a Belgian supermarket
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 04:16 AM
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:05 AM
The distilled result was distilled again.
The end product was 85%.
I don't know what would happen if one starts with 50%
Perhaps this page provides some more clarity. It states a.o. "If you prefer to triple distill first, you can get the strength into the 80% region which is about as pure as a pot still can get."
This 80% figure corresponds to my experience.
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:08 AM
#8
Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:27 AM
What I know is that I ran two bottles of cheap 37% vodka through it.
The distilled result was distilled again.
The end product was 85%.
I don't know what would happen if one starts with 50%
Perhaps this page provides some more clarity. It states a.o. "If you prefer to triple distill first, you can get the strength into the 80% region which is about as pure as a pot still can get."
This 80% figure corresponds to my experience.
Hi herman. So do you use the 80% alcohol to make your oil? What are the results like? Did you order the mark 2 from that link you provided above and is it made by the same company who makes the original.
Checkmate
Edited by checkmate, 23 August 2013 - 09:31 AM.
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:37 AM
I did not say that.....So do you use the 80% alcohol to make your oil?
I tested the distiller, found that I can make 85% in a triple distill (the first one done in the vodka factory).
Buying 95% from the German link I posted is in the end cheaper and better (for me, on the European mainland).
I said I use the still to reclaim the alcohol (the 95% that is).
As far as I can tell it is a modified version of the original.Did you order the mark 2 from that link you provided above and is it made by the same company who makes the original.
I don't know who modifies the device, maybe you can google for that.
It has less power (Wattage in the heater) and continuous control of the power and fan speed plus some minor other mods. Google is your friend

The original is a water distiller, the modified version is better suited for essential oils and alcohol.
[edit]Perhaps the StillSmart site has answers to your questions. They have a FAQ as well.
Mind you, the MarkII is a version with continuous control of the power. This version is not mentioned in the FAQ, so maybe some aftermarket electronic wizzards improved the still.
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Edited by herman, 23 August 2013 - 10:46 AM.
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Posted 24 August 2013 - 01:06 AM
Ok so I thought I'd give all you American readers a good laugh just so you know how good you have it over there. I decided two weeks ago to try make this cannabis oil and started to try get my hands on the essentials. Today I got the news that the supplier had plenty of ethanol to sell and sent me the price. I was delighted to read in the first paragraph that it would set me back only €63. Well my delight was short lived. In paragraph two was the tax and duty which was €34 per LITRE. Haha I nearly sh*t my pants. €913 for 25 litres of ethanol and that's not adding €30 delivery. So the only supplier in Ireland and he wants an arm and half me leg lol. Back to the drawing board I go...
Checkmate
My dear Irish darling - Here in Canada we face the same costs - but I've been using Isopropyl (rubbing alcohol) w/zero probs - simply follow the RSO instructions, or use the "freezing" alternative - All you need for safety is: high ventilation & no sparks, flames, smoking or drunken helpers! Trust your karma - this works well (

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 05:59 AM
It seems to require some chemistry, I don't know how easy that will be.
Maybe this helps...?
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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:52 PM
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Posted 25 August 2013 - 02:48 PM
Edited by checkmate, 25 August 2013 - 03:08 PM.
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Posted 25 August 2013 - 03:05 PM
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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:46 PM
But I can't get 99% iso here. At best it would be 97%, would that still work as well?
It's actually 99.7%, even better. .
Absolutleyeswhynotofcourse
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:46 AM
No you are evaporating it all off . Hence the 99.5 or 7 . Have you read up on this procedure checkmate ?
Yes I've read up on it of course. It's comments people post about how toxic iso is that's why I was considering pure alcohol as a healthier solvent.
Checkmate
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:49 AM
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:46 AM
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:19 AM
Ethanol is not available here .It is within the public domain that Sativex is an whole plant extract manufactured by blending two strains of herbal cannabis and using a CO2 extraction process to produce a tincture which also contains ethanol, propylene glycol and peppermint oil. Sativex is cannabis and contains all the cannabinoids, terpines and flavonoids present in the plants from which it is made.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:17 AM

When I understand JP correctly he is going to use the oil orally, not topically.
We all think, believe, that the alcohol is fully evaporated.
We only know when there is a strictly controlled process supported by chemical analysis of the resulting oil.
A lot of people thought it was OK to use pure naphtha as solvent, it would fully evaporate as was said and demonstrated in "Run from the cure".
It may be safe to use pure naphtha, many people just use naphtha such as Coleman fuel.
Have you seen this report?
It shows, among a lot of other things, the toxic and carcinogenic residuals in a naphtha-prepared oil.
I understood from chekmate's opening post that he can buy ethanol, although at a very high price.
If he can buy ethanol he has a choice between ethanol and isopropanol..
If it is isopropanol or nothing I would suggest to have a serious look at No Nonsense oil as an alternative.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:59 AM
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#23
Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:25 PM

i use both iso and ims i get them from a place that supplies power washers
and cleaning stuff ,as long as your not buying a shed load there's never any bother

Health and happiness
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:58 AM
Are you located in Ireland teddy?our folks have you sorted checkmate :welldone:/>
i use both iso and ims i get them from a place that supplies power washers
and cleaning stuff ,as long as your not buying a shed load there's never any bother :juggle:/>
Health and happiness
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 09:58 AM

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