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#1 Junior

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 02:53 PM

Was wondering if anyone had this before. I notice that after I medicate, Usually once I'm coming down. I get this real tender scalp. It's always in the same spot. Now it's not because I'm medicated because any dosage does this. The pain lasts for days, It feels like a bruise under my scalp. It takes about 2-3 days for it to disappear. This all started after smoking some bud (Which was moldy) and the infection was in my temporal artery. My Temporal artery was protruding really bad and I was getting shooting pains. I thought it was my wisdom tooth but I got it removed. Now whenever I smoke the pain comes back. Like someone hit me in the head with a hammer. Playing devils advocate I had the pain before without medicating (Haven't been able to really medicate because of this) and what I did was use colloidal silver and some shampoo and the pain subsides within 1-2 hours. So the real question is, if this is an infection under my scalp (If I move my hair around it's real sensitive like someone is pulling my hair) why is cannabis increasing the pain once I'm coming down? Is it suppressing my immune system to the point where the infection starts to hurt? I did notice one thing though, Not medicating for awhile and using the silver - The pain isn't as bad now that I tried to medicate. I can definitely feel it though... My Doctor could not address this. I contacted the DO that prescribed me the RX but I'd like to know if anyone else has experience this. Thanks!
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:50 PM

I haven't even read anyone having anything remotely similar.

It sounds, similar to TMJ type of pain, except: Pot usually helps and doesn't cause the pain to return. Sort of has me stumped!

What is he giving you for the infection? Or, is this the aftermath of the infection?

MMJ is great for infections and inflammation..which is why I am stymied!

Are you ingesting any of your weed? Usually, I find that smoking helps with symptom management, best. And ingesting, over a long period, starts to stop the cause! imho? But, it may not effect you, the same.

Generally speaking, a tender head (so to speak) is a sign of depression, and that isn't what you are talking about; remotely! This should be a very informative thread. shrugsmiley.gif pr
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:31 PM

It started after I smoked some moldy bud. To be fair though my DO said not to smoke High THC. Since I have Hep C it could damage my liver? Honestly I was smoking for a good year before this all happened. I think I might of contracted liver flukes but I'm not sure. So maybe the flukes, Along with High THC, Along with the Hep C Is causing my liver to give off some pain under my scalp? Maybe it's a VasoDilation thing? And I just need to eat more Silica? I know my veins are sticking out, which isn't good. But back to what I was saying lol. It started with me smoking some outdoor bud that I noticed had mold on it. The pain started in my temporal artery and started protruding bad on the left side of my head up to the top of my crown. I ended up eating raw garlic, Getting Encaelopathy (I didn't know at the time Garlic is actually a neurotoxin, No wonder why we can kill pests with it in our gardens) and then quiting smoking for awhile. One thing I noticed, Was if I did try to smoke again. My body would shake really bad, I would get these convulsion. I was awake but my body was jumping uncontrollably. I called an Ambulance, They came down said everything was fine. Blood Pressure, Pulse. The guy said he was from Oregon and saw this all the time. However, I remember if I kept my body warm the jumping would stop. So maybe I was either Hypoglycemic or Hypothermia? Not quite sure. However, I weigh 135 lbs. Can't gain weight no matter how much I eat, and have been working on flushing my liver (DO said I should of done this, Which I listened lol) and parasite cleansing. Whenever I smoke now, I get high. Then once it wears off there's the brusing pain under my top left scalp.. It's tender to touch and really sore. I smoked 2 days ago and it still aches. Going to make more silver tonight and try it. Idk what would of caused it. I don't think I have ring worms, I do have cats though. I don't see any baldness or rash on my scalp. Just tender, And if I pull at my hair it is REALLY senstiive. I have found some stuff like this but no answer. http://answers.yahoo...11140434AAc33I7 "Then it spread and tickled the rest of me. It was very strange. So I kept doing it, until I realized it started hurting. I tapped my head, and my scalp hurt like a *****."
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:49 PM

Hi junior, it is great seeing you!!!!! I only wish you was feeling better,, I have never come across this before, I do know that you want to stay away from the moldy shit, that is a must,, Hopefully someone will come help you, I will search but not sure what I will come up with,, Please take care my friend!!!!!! smhug.gif

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 03:36 PM

Hi junior, it is great seeing you!!!!! I only wish you was feeling better,, I have never come across this before, I do know that you want to stay away from the moldy shit, that is a must,, Hopefully someone will come help you, I will search but not sure what I will come up with,, Please take care my friend!!!!!! smhug.gif


Thanks Deb! I have contacted Sulak about it hopefully they will get back to me. However they really haven't and it's been going on ever since I smoked the moldy stuff.

The weird thing is I remember getting really high one night and felt something bubble up to the crown of my head on the inside (Crazy I know lol) I thought maybe it was a parasite that moved.

The chinese use Cannabis as an anti parasitic. So maybe that's why I get really bad anxiety too is because it causes the parasites to die and release ammonia.

Maybe it's ammonia pain I'm feeling under my scalp? Like swelling?

Cannabis causes an increase in metabolism? So maybe it's metabolism all the protein I eat way too fast?

Maybe it's a thyroid problem.

Idk I'm stumped. I've been through everything to try and figure it out. I can't even medicate anymore because of it.

Maybe storm crow can chime in?

I haven't tried a CBD rich strain yet like Cannatonic.

At first when I took L-Ornithine it seemed to help, Now it doesn't.

The Colloidal Silver and shampoo on the scalp seems to help but I don't know why Cannabis increases the pain once I'm coming down..

Maybe it's fungus and fighting against it? Idk...

Thank you and I hope all is well with you and your son!
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 04:22 PM

Hi junior!!!!! Keep calling Sulak, over and over if you have too,, I thought of Granny too and have sent her an email with a link to this topic,, keep checking in and hopefully Granny will get right to you!!!!!
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:16 PM

Do you think this could be a thyroid issue? I mean it would explain the weight loss and maybe when I smoke it's causing my thyroid to over work?
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:21 PM

Here's my Thyroid results from my PCP (Not sure if they are honest results or not but it seems the thyroid is kinda busy)

TSH 1.13 0.5 - 6.0 (Low?)
T3 2.9 2.3 - 4.2
Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies 25 Less Than 35
Thyroglobulin Antibodies 12.8 Less Than 20

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:14 PM

You've got me stumped, too! I presume the doc has examined the area so a skin cancer, or topical infection is not to blame. My best guess is that you still have a pocket of infection under your scalp and the vasodilation is causing the pain. Just think about it- if the infection is in lining of your blood vessels, then they expand under THC, that will injure them further and potentially open up new opportunities for the infection to spread. I hate to say it, but a round of antibiotics just might help (I don't like antibiotics that much). Talk with your doc about it. Granny :peace1:
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:28 PM

Okay, I think I'm onto something. Maybe the Cannabis is trying to get my thyroid to work and I am lacking iodine..

I think I'm going to start supplementing iodine.... It's the next step as I have tried everything.

This all happened after starting to eat properly. Non GMO going Gluten Free.

However I notice when I supp iodine my thyroid starts to hurt so I'll do iodine and selenium for a bit see how this goes.

I've read a lot about hypothyroid and pain under the scalp.

I'm not 100% sure why Cananbis is causing the thyroid to increase scalp pain but maybe it's trying to get it to work?

All I know is I was medicating fine prior to a few months ago.

You've got me stumped, too! I presume the doc has examined the area so a skin cancer, or topical infection is not to blame. My best guess is that you still have a pocket of infection under your scalp and the vasodilation is causing the pain. Just think about it- if the infection is in lining of your blood vessels, then they expand under THC, that will injure them further and potentially open up new opportunities for the infection to spread. I hate to say it, but a round of antibiotics just might help (I don't like antibiotics that much). Talk with your doc about it.

Granny :peace1:


I actually was put on 2 antibiotics. I was taking Clindomyacin which helped with the temporal artery on the left side of my head.

But then it stopped working and when I was taking the Clindomyacin the pain was increasing (Adapting to the antibiotic?)

I know when I was taking the Clindo with Colloidal the symptoms went away.

Then I got put on another antibiotic that didn't increase pain but it didn't remove the pain either...

The only thing that has helped was colloidal silver with shampoo. But i'm starting to think it's thyroid.

Any information with cannabis and thyroid?
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:52 PM

I think it has to affect the thyroid in some way. I remember when I was smoking a couple months back I started to get the weird "Jerks" and I didn't know at the time but once I covered up with a blanket the symptoms lessened. So why would it decrease my body temp so much. I mean my body temp now is 96-97. Could be hypo. I know how to fix this however why would it cause my body temp to drop when smoking? Is this a circulation issue? I eat pretty good foods. I really think it's a thyroid problem.... but the cannabis is telling me that. As whenever I have these episodes of jerking or low body temp I don't end up getting hurt or passing out. It's just showing me in a physical way.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 09:34 PM

Junior; With a certain strain of sativa, I can feel/hear sensations, which are vascular and no way near, painful! You just can't keep diagnosing yourself though. If you think something is wrong with your thyroid (which could be), call your M.D./D.O. And while he is at it, do some bloodwork, a C-T scan/MRI(if indicated) and look at everything else. Treating this and that, because you "think" you might have it, might kill you, eventually! Please, if you decide to treat diabetes next, use cannabis. At least, I KNOW you won't hurt yourself with that, unless you are normally hypoglyceimic... smhug.gif pr Was that bud black mold or powder mold, you smoked? And the symptoms were immediate?

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:56 AM

Junior;

With a certain strain of sativa, I can feel/hear sensations, which are vascular and no way near, painful!

You just can't keep diagnosing yourself though. If you think something is wrong with your thyroid (which could be), call your M.D./D.O. And while he is at it, do some bloodwork, a C-T scan/MRI(if indicated) and look at everything else.

Treating this and that, because you "think" you might have it, might kill you, eventually! Please, if you decide to treat diabetes next, use cannabis. At least, I KNOW you won't hurt yourself with that, unless you are normally hypoglyceimic...

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Was that bud black mold or powder mold, you smoked? And the symptoms were immediate?


I'm far off from Diabetes haha. My Blood sugar is usually 70-75. I never have issues with my blood sugar going too high.

I actually was at 110 Blood Sugar back in 2009 and since using Blood Electrification and getting my Cannabis RX my blood sugar has gone down.

So has my AST and ALT which were high 90's

I haven't seen my liver enzymes. Which I'm not worried about because they elevate with individuals that don't even have Hep C. Plus there is no way to tell if they are dead or alive.

However, I have gone to 4 doctors now about it.

The protruding temporal artery on the left side of my head (Left Temple) was after I smoked moldy bud. So I think maybe the mold went through sinus' or maybe through an infected tooth?

I was taking Clindamyacin and it wasn't responding. The pain wasn't increasing either. So I made some Colloidal Silver with my Blood Electrification device and took Colloidal Silver WITH Clindamyacin (Got a herx from this too) and the temporal artery and pain in the left side of my temple went away.

However from what I remember the symptoms of the pain on the crown of my head was gone too.

Then smoking would bring it back.

Went to the Doctor, she said "Well I don't know" didn't even gave me a prescription for anything and said it's probably postural.

Now I know I have a slipped disc in my upper back. Right below the one that pops out near the neck on everyone. C7/T1 Area.

I don't think these are related and I think it might of been from Celiac Sprue or just bad posture.

None of the Dr's I went to could tell me why I was getting tender scalp.




All I know is when I smoke, The pain increases. Not instantly, I usually get medicated. Either get really cold, sleepy, or Hypoglycemic if I don't eat.

Then I come down.

After I come down I notice the tender part of my scalp. This lasts for at least a week. The pain is real sensitive and my hair is sensitive like I'm pulling my hair out.

Today I made Colloidal Silver shampoo and the pain went away once again 2-3 hours after being applied.

Idk maybe I got ring worms from my cats. Maybe it's parasites. I'm not sure.

I'd just like to know why smoking makes it worse. Then Colloidal Silver removes the pain.

I don't know if putting it on my scalp has the ability to go down to the blood vessels.
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Posted 18 May 2013 - 01:02 AM

"The clinical symptoms of hypothyroidism are many. Perhaps the most common is fatigue. The skin can become dry, cold, rough and scaly. The hair becomes coarse, brittle and grows slowly or may fall out excessively. There is a sensitivity to cold with feelings of being chilly in rooms of normal temperature. It is difficult for a person to sweat and their perspiration may be decreased or even absent even during heavy exercise and hot weather. Constipation that is resistant to magnesium supplementation and other mild laxatives is also another common symptom. Difficulty in losing weight despite rigid adherence to a low grain diet seems to be a common finding especially in women. Depression and muscle weakness are other common symptoms." This is exactly what is going on with me. I can't sweat to save my life even under hot conditions or in a sauna. I always feel cold. When I take Magnesium I do not get the laxative effects. So I'll be working on my thyroid. The thyroid could just be another issue all together since when I use colloidal silver on the scalp this has nothing to do with the Thyroid. I have been taking care of my liver. My liver treatment is - On Friday's I try to fast, Saturday I eat fat free, And then Sunday I go fat free up to 2pm. After 2pm I stop eating and then around 6 I take Epsom salt to relax my bile ducts and Gallbladder. Then I take half cup olive oil and half cup lemon juice around 8. Following half a gram of L-Ornithine to make sure that I remove ammonia also and fall asleep. The reason for the fat free is to build pressure in the GB and Liver to release during the flush. A kinda purge. So I am for sure it's not my liver causing the issue. Unless I have Flukes. Which my Colloidal Silver and Blood Electrification should address. It should also be addressing the infection.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:18 PM

Found this which is kinda related to what's going on. "Hi I'm having the same problem and can trace it back to having smoked some pot that had that strong ammonia smell. This smell is apparantly some fungus that can grow on weed and I dont know what it did to me, but now I can get pretty nasty headaches within a few days of smoking pot, and I seem to get alcohol-related headaches as well (most drastically with wine). Before smoking a few bowls of the weed (which was a seemingly nice kind-bud hydro-grown) I could smoke my brains out (have never been a big drinker so couldnt speak to that) and have no side effects. Now, even if i attempt a small amount I usually wind up with headaches that last for days and can range from mild to very very severe. Before I knew it was the weed, my headaches were so bad and lasting (even months after the last smoke) that I too got a ct scan and mri to try to discover the cause, both of which came up negative (along with bloodtests etc). It was after a few weeks regimen of advil (as directed by a specialist) that the headaches gradually subsided (all this had continued for a few months since I had last smoked too). The headaches seem to be localized around my temples, most pain coming from the left temple. I so miss being able to smoke a little pot now and then, and would love any advice as to how to enjoy some without these nasty headaches. Perhaps you others who suffer the same fate can share any luck you might be having? I've tried smoking through a bong/water-pipe and a bowl, and still get the headaches even with just a half-hit inhalation (though more of a general haze-headache than the pin-point left temple migraines it gives me if I smoke more than that). Have you guys tried a vaporizer to test if its something from the smoke?... or maybe tried ingesting it? I'm currently on antibiotics and am hoping they might help the situation, so i'll try a small puff after the prescription runs out to see if things have improved. Anyways my advice to everyone: be smart about your pot; dont overdo it (like everything in life) and if you get the faintest hint of that ammonia smell... TOSS IT!" Can't remember my bud smelling like ammonia but it was outdoor with some faint mold on it.
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Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:24 PM

And this... All i can say dude is i have searched for years to find something like what i just read. I started smoking pot when i was around about 16 and i was buying ounces and pounds so i always had heaps of pot to smoke. I can honestly say I was a very heavy smoker of pot and the thing that stuck out to me is something you wrote about fungus. After years of smoking and taking many other drugs such as crystal meth, lsd, ecstacy etc I caught up with a friend of mine who was 9 years older than me and a constant source of good pot. I had another friend with me who was about 3 years younger. He had just started to smoke a bit of pot and I was a pretty full on user, showing him the ropes. My older friend pulled out some hydros which were mouldy in places. I proceeded to have a few bongs of this weed which was pretty normal. I can recall telling my younger friend "dude this weed has got me that stoned its like the first time I ever smoked weed". Anyhow me and my younger friend decided to leave and on my way driving home I experienced the most hardcore pains in my head ever. I felt my brain literally tearing apart and drove myself to hospital, crying and in definite belief that I was going to die. After a big wait in the emergency center the orderly just said to me "your just stoned, these are the sort of effects you get from being stoned" I just thought, what a retard I've been smoking for long enough to know what it feels like to get stoned. And if it was like that I sure as hell wouldn't have been a chronic user. What followed anyway was the worst pains ever, I still continued to smoke a bit of weed, but every time I smoked it, the feelings inside my head would intensify and I would feel like it was going to kill me again and I would end up having to go for a run of get into the ocean to wear the effects off. After a very short period of time all drugs were cut out of my life, and what has followed has been years of chronic headaches, I've been on prozac, anti-psychotics, I've developed a terrible anxiety disorder, obsessive compulsive behaviour over various things.. I havent touched any drugs for years I work full time as a musician and I am constantly surrounded by drugs, and won't drink drinks that have been poured from behind the bar as i am constantly scared about something being in my drink or the reminence of a glass that once had some drug spiked in it lingering around enough to effect me. I wont shake peoples hands with people who I know have been on drugs because I am scared of chemicals escaping from there skin and transferring through the pores of mine effecting my brain. I know futher exposure to drugs will send me to a mental home. I have had ct scans for the pains in my head, i can only describe it as a heavy tension blockage feeling in the centre of my head which moves and effects different quadrants of my brain at random times. I haven't taken ANY drugs since I was 20 and I am 24 in april this year. Please if anyone can help me with any advice i am struggling to get through this life, and If anyone can use this as a persuasive device to , avoid taking drugs - especially like someone said earlier at a young age, when the brain is still not developed. Please heed that advice. I was always blasse about the use of drugs and used alot, never casting thought to the possibility of negative repocussions. And what an eye opener. Marijuana is a really underrated drug, and most people wouldn't even have a clue to the sort of chemicals that go into making already very potent strains extremely potent. Some growers do not undertake the correct procedures in the final stages of growing and flush the plant of foreign chemicals and excess nutrients. I believe this to be why some people get bad headaches after smoking some batches of hydros. Anyway just my two cents worth ive never opened up about this in a forum before, but the last post compelled me to share my experience. Any comments please benpsychokilla@hotmail.com safe travels
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Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:21 PM

Here's another "I have smoked weed for about 4 years - smoking about everyday. Recently i started to get headaches after smoking weed. I would have these really bad headaches all day. Every time I smoked it hurt, so I decided to stop smoking weed. Well about a month and a half later without weed the headaches started to die down. I concluded that weed did have an effect on my headaches and I would describe the headaches as "weed hangovers", by the fact that the day after I smoked weed I would get a bad headache, but a day I did not smoke it would not be as bad. It had been about 2 months and i did not have any headaches...so i decided to smoke some weed. The first blunt i felt good. The next day i smoked another blunt and felt a little something in my head but tried not to think about it. It is now the second day after that second blunt and my head is hurting again. It feels like there is a knot in the back of my head and it feels really dry. I figure the more i smoke the more my head hurts. The fact that weed stays in your body for about a month and after a month of not smoking my head doesnt hurt is wierd. It makes me think that the part of the weed that stays in your body (in your brain?) causes the pain. Back when i smoked everyday and had headaches it was really bad and now ive only smoked twice and the pain is there but not bad. Im sure if i continue to smoke the pain will build back up to being horrible. I feel like my symptoms and troubles with weed and headaches are very similar to some posts i have seen on this topic. I just hope someone can help us figure out whats going on. I was thinking of getting a MRI when i go home... Anybody with any tips or solutions / whatever...please help! I want to be able to smoke weed again freely!" These are all the symptoms Im having. I smoke and the pain comes on. It lasts for days/weeks sometime The pain only comes back after smoking. Someone has to have some idea as to what it is = Call my a hypochondriac but I hope it's not morgellons.. I just don't know what to do. I was fine smoking prior to all these issues. I was smoking decent amounts. Then took a break and came back to this.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:49 PM

I hope there will be some adding to this subject, It is puzzling and interesting and your not the only one, I so hope you will find the answer Junior!!!!!

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 03:18 PM

I did find the answer. It is related to thyroid. I'm trying to find the literature that shows Cannabis suppresses thyroid hormone. That's what is happening to me. The way I know I'm hypo is my basal temp when waking is below 98.6. It's around 96-97 =. Here's what I found. "FOR THOSE WHO SUDDENLY COULDN'T HANDLE SMOKING ONE DAY" "I have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I used to be able to smoke a eigth in a blunt of home grown TGA or chem stuff and one day I just freaked out smoking anything mroe than a hit. same with alchohol. Im now understanding that the thyroid controlls every organ in your body and your bodys entire metabolism(not just the what you eat metabolism, but how your entire bodys metabolism works for all your organs). I found a study from 1968, which you guys can take with a grain of salt, but it stated how cannabis effected the endocrin systems administration of hormones. it said that their was evidence that the system got used to cannabis in some patients, but more study would need to be conducted. however, im assuming this is not the same for everyone. Now, at the age of 23, I have an enlarged thyroid. now for those of you who know how the pituitary gland, thyroid and adrenal system works, youll understand that for some people, long term cannabis use might seriously impact them. I am letting you guys know who became super sensitive to marijuana, alchohol one day and who might have some of the symptoms of thyroid disorder, such as fatigue, feeling tired all the time, brain fog. to go to a doctor and get a thyroid panel and TSH test, because smoking and drinking could make you feel a million times worse. This is not a anti cannabis or alcohol rant, but after finding out why I one day and for the last 6 years have felt MISERABLENESS, and that I could have changed soem lifestyle choices, I would have in a minut to not have to deal with this fucking disease. Im just passing on some info to my fellow community members in hopes of helping some one find some info if they are dealing with the same crap, because a thyroid disorder can ruin your life. Im doing everything I can right now to not be on medication. Ive quit smoking, drinking, eating gluten, using chemical soaps, I only drink spring water, and other things. stay well everyone." https://www.icmag.co...ad.php?t=231854 You know I don't drink due to my liver problems Deb. This is a huge disappointed to me. This was the only option I had in form of medication that was non-toxic, non-physically addicting. Now I can't even use it. I was fine for a whole year. I could smoke at least an 8th a day plus of top quality meds. Now I can't even do that. One hit devastates me just like the guy was saying. The Brain fog, the fatigue. It's disappointing. Does high CBD do the exact same thing? Is there any more info on Hypo and Cannabis that you can direct me to. Storm Crow =[! I don't mind giving up high THC. I just want to be able to smoke and relax and enjoy life without all the stress' and nausea =[ Now I am very sad. I do plan to work on my thyroid though. Salt loading, Iodine, Selenium, and Boron supplementation. Maybe after doing this for a year my thyroid will come back. The pain under the scalp is probably the hypo which is normal. Why it disappears with Colloidal Silver is beyond me but it's definitely a symptom of hypo. I'm really sad.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 10:35 PM

Hi Junior, I so hope you are feeling better, I am worried for you,,, If you have your card, Go to your dispensary and ask them about high CBD and low on THC,, They might have it ,, I was wondering that you might try medicating with medables,, Cooking with it might affect you differently.. Don't give up,, Something is out there for you!!!!!!

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 12:16 AM

Junior;

I was thinking of Auto Immune Disorders and the thyroid counts, as one. Except, your lab values are normal for your thyroid. There is much discussion in the medical community of...there has to be clearly 3 low values to start 'treatment.' that is highly debated and some docs start treatment with 2 low values.

However, I still wonder of different autoimmune disorders, that are related. I clearly think this is a "Parathesia" of sorts. Often, they are transient and display, exactly as you report. However, mostly, they resolve themselves, without any intervention.

Parathesia: burning, tingling, itching, numbness, tickling, prickling..etc.

Somehow, I think you are more aware of your "feelings" after smoking. Your body is relaxing and that is the only thing that you are feeling much of? Which is extremely irritating and uncomfortable..


Other Causes may include:

Other causes may include:

Diagnostic approach

The nerve conduction study usually provides useful information for making diagnosis. A CT scan is sometimes used to rule out some causes from the central nervous system.



I am fairly satisfied with this being a chronic parathesis of a remitting nature. I have a similar one of burning on the top of a foot. However, I've been diagnosed with a different disorder and hope you find, what yours is?

and THANK YOU JUNIOR for coming back and posting information that you found (& DEB) on the thyroid and topic; I'll go read the thread, too! pr


edit: Have you had your magnesium levels checked?

Edited by painretreat, 21 May 2013 - 12:21 AM.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 03:10 PM

I just started supplementing Magnesium Malate - It could be that. It could also be that I don't get enough Vitamin C. The reason why I think it's Thyroid is my basal temp is always low. 97.2, 96. The reason why I don't personally think it's parethesis is because I get it for days after smoking. It usually goes. I smoke, Feel high (Sometimes get hypothermia and the shakes depending on how much I smoke, Which would be a thyroid problem since I have to externally heat my body up) Then after 3-4 hours of being medicated I start to come down. This is when I notice the dull ache - Always in the same spot. Top of crown near the left side. I had this pain too after smoking the moldy outdoor bud. However the pain started on my left temple. It then moved up across my left temple to my crown. I didn't think it was Cannabis at the time, So I was still smoking. The more I smoked the more pain I got. I was also eating wheat at the time. So it could of been auto immune. Gluten apparently effects the thyroid too. After coming down a few hours after smoking and getting the head pain. I get it for days, The colloidal silver helps and then it comes back and then I colloidal silver again then it vaguely comes back. So, Although I feel I have a thyroid problem. I also feel there is another issue going on. Cannabis suppresses the immune system right? I feel something is going on. I don't get the head pain if I quit smoking for a good week or 2... But if I do smoke then I get the pain for a good week or 2. I have some more strains coming up - Grand Daddy Purple, Cheese Auto Candy, Snowcap LA Limited. I want to try them but I'm really scared because this pain is pretty serious. Someone told me Cannabis Suppresses thyroid hormone. I know Storm crow is on Armor or some type of thyroid hormone.. The dispensary I used to go to said I should get checked for lymes. Maybe it's a herxheimer reaction?
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:51 PM

Hi Junior,
herxheimer reaction? If you feel you have Lyme's, ask your M.D. asap and don't waste any time about it. If you were bitten by a tick, you would recall it, though. I was, once, while in No. Calif.; I'll never forget it.

Have you asked your M.D. to LOOK, specifically for Auto-Immune disease?

Parathesias; are simply unexplainable and absolutely irritating and painful, just as you describe. And ARE often associated with Auto-Immune disease's: Probably psychological disease, as well. Regardless, isolating yourself to your thyroid, well; don't dismiss other reasons. And don't be too frightened, if you find, you fit in a few categories of it. It can take decades to find auto-immune disorders.

Often, lower thyroid (not clinical deficient levels) are certainly symptoms, of other disease. Your Temperature, well, yes..for some, that is normal. Mine has been 97.2, since I was a child with healthy Thyroid levels. However, they are declining. It may in fact be related or just a 'fluke.' I have 2 Thyroid values that are, currently in the "Low" area and not 3. However, my temperature has been elevated to 99.2, for the past 3 mos.

I'll toss out some ideas? As Storm Crow said," My best guess is that you still have a pocket of infection under your scalp and the vasodilation is causing the pain. Just think about it- if the infection is in lining of your blood vessels, then they expand under THC, that will injure them further and potentially open up new opportunities for the infection to spread. I hate to say it, but a round of antibiotics just might help (I don't like antibiotics that much). Talk with your doc about it."

It might be possible that you have some blockage in those arteries, on the Rt. side of your head and the THC is increasing the circulation into an area, that doesn't have the circulatory vessels to handle the 'pressure.' Which brings me to, What is your Blood Pressure and Pulse?

Junior, What does your M.D. say? Not the collective or the pot doc, your Primary? pr
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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:08 PM

Hi Junior,
herxheimer reaction? If you feel you have Lyme's, ask your M.D. asap and don't waste any time about it. If you were bitten by a tick, you would recall it, though. I was, once, while in No. Calif.; I'll never forget it.

Have you asked your M.D. to LOOK, specifically for Auto-Immune disease?

Parathesias; are simply unexplainable and absolutely irritating and painful, just as you describe. And ARE often associated with Auto-Immune disease's: Probably psychological disease, as well. Regardless, isolating yourself to your thyroid, well; don't dismiss other reasons. And don't be too frightened, if you find, you fit in a few categories of it. It can take decades to find auto-immune disorders.

Often, lower thyroid (not clinical deficient levels) are certainly symptoms, of other disease. Your Temperature, well, yes..for some, that is normal. Mine has been 97.2, since I was a child with healthy Thyroid levels. However, they are declining. It may in fact be related or just a 'fluke.' I have 2 Thyroid values that are, currently in the "Low" area and not 3. However, my temperature has been elevated to 99.2, for the past 3 mos.

I'll toss out some ideas? As Storm Crow said," My best guess is that you still have a pocket of infection under your scalp and the vasodilation is causing the pain. Just think about it- if the infection is in lining of your blood vessels, then they expand under THC, that will injure them further and potentially open up new opportunities for the infection to spread. I hate to say it, but a round of antibiotics just might help (I don't like antibiotics that much). Talk with your doc about it."

It might be possible that you have some blockage in those arteries, on the Rt. side of your head and the THC is increasing the circulation into an area, that doesn't have the circulatory vessels to handle the 'pressure.' Which brings me to, What is your Blood Pressure and Pulse?

Junior, What does your M.D. say? Not the collective or the pot doc, your Primary? pr


She says "I don't know." I bring something up and she usually just dismisses it. Saying she doesn't know me and has no tests.

After the tests she said that everything looks normal.

I wish she would go off my symptoms aside from the "Tests" that are proven to not be accurate.

TSH isn't even a measurement of the thyroid. It's the pituitary gland.

She said to take Vitamin D because my levels are low.

I think it's time to find a new doctor.

My blood pressure whenever measured is 120/90. I am going to get a blood pressure monitor to monitor this at home because who knows that my BP isn't raised with "White Coat" syndrome when I am at the doctors...

It could be low blood pressure.

My pulse sometimes gets faint when I feel it on my wrist. It never misses a beat though and is usually normal pace.

One thing I have noticed is that my nails are white and I no longer have half moons which can be a sign of low thyroid function and low b-12.

Since going vegan and not eating so many meats I know I am deficient.

I think I'm going to try and get a new doctor and address these issues to them. At least to get tested for some things that I need to get tested for.

Specifically auto immune, deficiencies, and new thyroid panel. Maybe even amino acids..

"It might be possible that you have some blockage in those arteries, on the Rt. side of your head and the THC is increasing the circulation into an area, that doesn't have the circulatory vessels to handle the 'pressure.'"

So would low pressure be the issue with this? Or would it be if my BP was higher.

Another thing is Adrenal Fatigue - Which I do have. Apparently that causes low blood pressure.

I have been taking Licorice root which is good for adrenals if you have low blood pressure.

Another thing is the fatigue and adrenal problem happened at the same time as these issues.

So I feel it's an issue with the endocrine system.
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Posted 23 May 2013 - 09:31 PM

I strongly suspect: There is something going on with your "AutoImmune" system. Every symptom and non-symptom, surely points that direction. It is very possible these low-levels are "pre-cursors" and 'only' a symptom of something else. As long as, you don't have major 'dysfunction' keep a list of your symptoms: From day to day, take that list to your M.D. You definitely need to get a B/P cuff and figure out, what it is doing, when you are at home. I suspect the increase of B/P with toking may "set off" things, as you report. But, the underlying condition, needs to be diagnosed by an M.D. And, yes, they need to be "looking," to find something. Tell your M.D. you have a 'headache' and it is severe enough to warrant some imaging? :scarism: If she says she "doesn't know." ( Maybe, ask her how many days she was absent from medical school, not really, but that is a distinct possibility). I definitely, would start looking for a new M.D. and interview a few...if your insurance and budget, will allow you. Regardless, YOU NEED some further testing. Ask to see a Rheumotologist and a neurologist. A Rheumotologist to Rule Out Auto-Immune disease and a Neurologist to figure out what the pain in your head is. Get serious with your M.D. and go see specialists. By seeing the specialist's; at the very least, they will Rule Out, what it is not. With this Obamacare, fewer M.D.'s are accepting new patients and you may have to, work with, the one you have. Plus, there are new schools of Medicine, popping up (like Pot docs) to make more 'primary physicians.' Lately, I find the ones we have, to be, less than adequate. pr
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