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#1 EektheGrey

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:42 PM

Hello all Green People,

This is Fiona's and My second grow,
(if you want to see the first grow, see my signature "Eek-My first Grow".)

We got a lead on some auto flowering strains through Weedmaps. Stockton, SMC. They still have a few left, but I bought 20 (two packages) regular non-feminized autoflowering seeds.

Angel's Compassion Genetics
I have never heard of this company before
but this is how you get a name for yourself I guess (word of mouth or viewing of posts, lol)
They say they have been providing "high quality auto flowering hybrids" since 2005

10x Assassin's Cleaner
Sativa/indica
height: 12-30 inches
70 days from seed
15 to 40 grams per plant
quick hitting, pain control, depression
Potency: 9/10
Genetics: mexican ruderalis, auto assassin, chem dawg, og kush, lemon skunk, white wizard.
(no info on percentages)


10x Auto Af-Jack
Sativa/indica
70 days from seed,
15-40 grams per plant
fast hitting, relaxing, appetite stimulant, pain reducer
Potency: 8/10
Genetics: ruderalis, Jack Flash, Angel's Indi-Kush
(no info on percentages)

Fiona, after reading a post from another GP member Jangel I think, separated them into female and non female seeds, and in the Auto Af-jacks case, unsure, but probably female category. So we have five categories.

Auto Assassins Cleaner fem 5
Auto Assassins Cleaner male 5
Auto Af Jack fem 2
Auto Af Jack male 2
Auto Af Jack unsure but probably female 6

The reason we put them into categories, is to see if she could actually determine the difference between male and female seeds. I am giving Fiona all discretion in this grow. I will only advise.

We have made one decision already. We will take one male and female, and produce some seeds, then maybe work on some crossings later.

I will show some pics of what we have so far.

We are asking for advice on the soil

I intend on getting a tent and a light as well as ventilation. Very small operation. Not all the seeds will be grown at the same time, we will try to keep it perpetual till spring anyway. We will of course stay within the guidelines of the law. I am thinking doing 5 and 5, for six females, and then 5 two weeks later, and 5 two weeks after that, not sure about it, it will take a calander, and a fattie to figure it out.

Okay for now I will work on the pics, they should be up by this evening.

bfn,

Eek

Edited by MasterEek, 29 October 2012 - 09:16 PM.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:10 PM

Hi Eek, imho you can't go wrong with fox farm ocean forest or ffof. That is all I use for soil. It's best to add about 20%-30% perlite to the soil. Peace, Blue
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:13 PM

hehehee...c'mon!....where's the pics! Hysterical muahha...grow, baby GROW! muA
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:46 PM

I'm signed up for the grow,good luck and much karma to you both ,and what medi said :lol:
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:27 PM

Okay GP folks's,
Here are the Auto Flowering seed pictures I have so far. I know, I know I said I would show you all I had so far. Well, the seeds are pretty much it. I got some planters outside, ifn' you want pics of those? Just joking, okay so here are some pictures of some of the seeds. More to come on our next post.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 05:17 AM

wtg peeps :321:

will be interesting to see if the bean sorting will work thinking.gif


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#7 EektheGrey

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 09:36 AM

Morning GP

Thanks Teddy, I like that chart. Other than the "should be discarded," part. We like our male plants, and use them as well for whole health system maintenance. Also, we want to experiment with crosssing a couple of our best cbd strains.

Don't get me wrong, I like a good buzz, which helps with depression and all. But how I have been feeling since taking a regimin of NN oil, is no little thing.

The two main reasons we selected auto flowering strains was for the cbd values, which run fairly high in these strains, and we should be able to move them around from inside to outside on warm sunny days, and eventually into the tent that I cannot afford right now, but soon.

Okay, Fiona is going to look into auto flowering strains today, and we may post again really soon.

Bfn,

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:07 AM

Good Morning Green Peeps,

I guess we didn't post really soon, lol.

It is funny. Even as a stoner, when I was younger, I was never dragged down by being high/stoned. I was always able to shuck my buzz and take care of business no matter what the situation. As I was getting older, the better able I was to handle my buzz in situations where maintaining was important. Speaking with bosses, and following directions, etc. Now-a-days I am still able to maintain mentally, but physically I am getting slow. Of course I don't attribute more than just a little bit of that to mmj consumption, and blame most of it on my aging process.

Some things that are really difficult now as I am getting on in age are...

Bending over and picking stuff up off the floor. Who knew this was gonna be one of the biggest deals. As a kid, I would just swoop down and pluck stuff up with swift precision. Not one thought about it. Now, it is a cold and calculated effort with intense planning and watch synchronizing. And if a lean against the wall is available, then I use that method as well. Getting back to a standing position isn't as easy as you think. Though not as much thinking is involved in going up as getting down is, the initial push is SO important. You gotta make sure you get high enough so your ankles and feet can take over with little effort. Then, after the short wait period for the dizziness to subside (about 15 seconds), you are good to go.

Another thing is this whole cycle of life thing. I am not talking age here, I am talking about, you got it, stretchy pants. When you are born and just old enough to start wearing pants, they give you stretchy pants, and stretchy diapers, and stretchy underwear. Then you get a little older, and you wear just the stretchy diapers or stretchy pull ups and stretchy pants. Then as you age a little more you are just wearing stretchy pants. This is the stretchy pants age of enlightenment. This is when you start to envy people who DON'T wear stretchy pants. You become aware that you must be the only kid who wears stretchy pants and by golly you are gonna get out of those stretchy sumbitches if it's the last thing you do. Then you are in your prime, and you are stretchy pants FREE. Which is a good thing because wearing stretchy pants on your first date may not go over so well. So you go through this period of time, which is in fact a real long period of time, you don't even think about stretchy pants. In fact, you don't even know why it was such a big deal. You actually think you are beginning to hate stretchy pants. But it is like listening to a good song on the radio by a stupid band. You just don't want all your friends to know that you actually like it. Then comes what I like to call the return to stretchy pants envy. You have gained a few pounds in your middle years, and it seems like something is missing, could it be? Sure belts work, but not as good as before. You end up hitchin' up yer britches anyway, and look like your doin' some sort of cowboy piruette. You have tried the suspender thing, but notice that they pull on your shoulders and gives you a headache. you start to think "If'n I had me some of them pants them older folks are wearing, my pants would stay up." Then you start daydreaming about having a closet full of stretchy pants, and how you could go to the closet and not even look, and out would pop the stretchy pants. You wouldn't have to hitch up yer britches unless you intended to, you know, in case a hot lady walks by, so she can see you have stretchy pants. I wish I had stretchy pants.

Okay, pictures and organization coming next

Bfn,

Fiona and Eek

Edited by MasterEek, 05 November 2012 - 09:08 AM.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 10:16 AM

That was a riot ME.One hundred percent spot on. :) Peace, Blue
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 10:44 AM

Okay, here we are again GP.

As we decided before we went with 10 of our seeds. 5 Assassin's Cleaner, and 5 Af-Jack.



after the Germination process we will be putting then into 5 pots, two in each pot. We would hope to be getting a female and a male in each pot, or two females. However, we are not sure if it will turn out that way, but hopefully we followed advice well.

We decided to germinate in three different ways.

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1) paper towel in baggie method (dark closet, baggie open a tad, with a heather, hung on the wall like the most precious piece of art I have ever seen.
1 female assassin's cleaner and 1 female Af-Jack

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2) paper towel in covered plates with a bit 'o' air getting in
2 plates Plate 1 - male AF Jack and female AJ
Plate 2- male AC and female AC
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3) Cup of distilled water, (put in last night, all have sunk). then something will be done with them.
will update. cup1- 2x female AJ's
cup 2- 2x female AC's

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Will post again soon

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:55 AM

Hi I get to do this part.... I am a strange child with all my papers and numbers and germinating the seeds different ways. All the seeds have their little tap roots. Most (8 out of 10) took about 24 hours. The last two (in the cups of water) waited til this morning...figuring about 36 hours. All are planted now ~ 5 pots, two seeds for each Attached File  2012-11-05_17-04-37_630 (800x451).jpg   213.53KB   9 downloadsAttached File  2012-11-05_17-08-12_990 (800x451).jpg   195.38KB   12 downloads My cute little holes for each seed Attached File  2012-11-05_17-04-46_201 (800x451).jpg   223.13KB   13 downloads Attached File  2012-11-05_17-09-45_880 (800x451).jpg   177.16KB   16 downloadsAttached File  2012-11-05_17-08-51_741 (451x800).jpg   111.67KB   14 downloadsAttached File  2012-11-05_17-17-14_774 (800x447).jpg   158.54KB   12 downloads Put a little water in each hole and then a seed Attached File  2012-11-05_17-09-59_130 (800x451).jpg   183.46KB   12 downloadsAttached File  2012-11-05_17-11-03_950 (800x451).jpg   180.78KB   13 downloads Attached File  2012-11-05_17-14-53_660 (800x451).jpg   188.15KB   14 downloadsAttached File  2012-11-05_17-19-09_212 (800x447).jpg   192.33KB   13 downloads I read about tap root up or down. I was trying for tap root down , but really which ever way they land is the way they stayed...I was not going to fish them out and try to turn them and risk hurting the tap root. Attached File  2012-11-05_17-07-01_493 (800x451).jpg   181KB   9 downloads I'm sure after we have a few more grows it will be less exciting, right now I'm enjoying this and having fun! guitar.gif
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

WooooHoooooo

We have a BABY!!!!

It is a (hopefully female) AF Jack.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:40 PM

New life congrats :woohoo: it's show time got my popcorn and soda,i'm all ready.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:46 PM

New life congrats :woohoo: it's show time got my popcorn and soda,i'm all ready.


WoooHoooo Lots of new life.

I checked again ... there are three now!

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:05 PM

Fiona... I have been starting my plants - auto and photo - in soil for nearly a year now, and all seeds have germinated just fine. I did lose one seedling, but that was the one and only time I tried using a soilless "seedling" mix (commercially available) and after that, I threw it in the trash. All that to say that they really are pretty hardy little seeds/plants, and you might want to give this a try.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:46 PM

got a front row seat for the show! wishing you both a wonderful grow :)

be well & Hugs!!

fiona, can I ask you how or when do you separate the 2 seedlings in the one pot? somehow am thinking it would disturb the delicate young roots......but I could be wrong!
Hugs :)
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:19 AM

Good Evening, GPeeps, or afternoon or morning, wherever you may be.

My left shoulder is killing me, but I had to post. Fiona is so cute, you would think she was baring the seeds herself. Don't get near them, trust me on that one. So we have five now sprouted, two are an inch high. Two that I could see, still need to shuck the shells. Fiona says she knows how to do that so she will take care of it I am sure.


Sandbreak, can you tell me about nutrients that you used, and what strains you had? And thank you for your input, will have to see if that plays out on our next phase, in one month, we will be starting five more seeds

One thing that is interesting. The seeds that went into cups of water, were that last to show tap roots, and they also have not sprouted yet either. So if anyone ever wanted to know if there was a difference, well it seems as though there is, bein's how both of the seeds are behaving the same.

Poet, We don't intend to separate any of the plants, We shoud be getting a male and a female in each pot except maybe one, or two, if our calculations are correct anyway. And these pots are big enough for two little auto's. We have read it is not good to interrupt the growth of auto's by transplanting them, the life cycle is so short, they can seriously delay thier harvest dates. We have counted from today, and the package the seeds came in says 60 to 70 days from seed. So that would bring us to January 6th - January 16.

Okay, three Ibuprophens, and some Afghani #1 shoulder is feeling a bit better.

I need to get some light on them, today was payday, Saturday will be HPS 600 day, I think, advice is welcome. I got the girls in the empty room, I don't want to make that a grow room, but if I could change rooms????? Let you know how that goes. I could easily fit a 3x3 grow tent in the garage, but I don't have a tent yet, and I am gonna have to piece this puppy together. First the light, then the tent then the fans? or exhaust fans first? for now I could put up a flourescent light I guess. I thought I would have at least till saturday, and I may have to do that anyways cuz Fiona's car is spazzing out at the moment, so you know, choices have to be made.

Anyways, Hope you all are thoroughlty depressed now! :th_sick0007:

bfn,

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:02 AM

Eek...one can easily remove seed shell 'caps' from seedlings by dribbling water over the seedpod and wetting it's papery skin...this will allow the shell to be removed without tearing the cotyledons off... muA
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:29 AM

Eek...one can easily remove seed shell 'caps' from seedlings by dribbling water over the seedpod and wetting it's papery skin...this will allow the shell to be removed without tearing the cotyledons off...

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I'm doing that right now...

8 of the 10 have sprouted

They are growing so fast! The tallest one is 2 and a half inches tall.
I added some soil to a couple of them to stabilize them.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:21 PM

Eek and Fiona, the autos I've germed and grown in soil include: Pakistan Ryder, Afghan Kush Ryder (both are, imo, just OK in terms of yield,; neither are the kind of pain relief I'm looking for, though nice enough in their own way) and Buddha Seeds' (Spain) Deimos, which is an auto'd version of Northern Lights. It takes longer (over 3 months), but it's nice. Photo: Burmese Kush (this was a freebie seed and the plant was hugely problematic - didn't make it to harvest) and ... a sativa-indica hybrid from Nirvana in the Netherlands (can't think of the name offhand). For all of them, I used a soil that's similar to Fox Farm Ocean Forest but that costs less than 1/2 of the FFOF per bag; nutes were Fox Farm Grow Big and Tiger Bloom, but I had to be *very* light with these - Afghan Kush Ryder and Deimos really did not like Grow Big very much. Not sure where you are located - I think the soil I use (am blanking on the name, will have to check) might be an East Coast-only deal, but I'm not certain... will add the info. later. I decided to germ in soil after reading Mandala Seeds' grow guide + reading posts by our late - and very much missed - MCOne. Also, I think the autos I've grown have been very hardy re. germing due to the ruderalis part of their genetics. I think they did extremely well and at this point, I would not want to germinate using anything other than soil.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:58 PM

Hey Sandbreak, I can't wait to see what soil you are using. Do you find it is has good as ffof? Peace, Blue
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:21 PM

Blue, I've never used FFOF, as I can't get it locally and shipping costs are very high. Added to the cost of one bag of FFOF, well... let's just say that I'd rather go with something else. If someone near here (within 30 miles or so) starts selling it, I'll give it a go. I'm in a rural area, so I do have to drive about 30 miles one way to get what I'm using now. Miracle Gro is pretty much all I can find otherwise.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

Blue, I've never used FFOF, as I can't get it locally and shipping costs are very high. Added to the cost of one bag of FFOF, well... let's just say that I'd rather go with something else.

If someone near here (within 30 miles or so) starts selling it, I'll give it a go. I'm in a rural area, so I do have to drive about 30 miles one way to get what I'm using now. Miracle Gro is pretty much all I can find otherwise.

I am in New England and I am very lucky.The local hydro store has the FFOF 1.5 cubit bag for 15.99.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 02:15 PM

There was a hydro store nearby for a while, but I never went there... wasn't growing as yet. I think the closest one to me is about 65-70 miles, one way.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:24 PM

Sandbreak, Thank you, All info is welcome and I soak it up and put in my notes. Since I'm so new to growing. 9 of 10 sprouted so far! Do you scuff your seeds before planting? Seems to me they would grow normally just planting them. Do you have a grow journal? I like the idea of the autos growing fast and not having to worry about lighting. I read that they don't handle stress very well. We used Fox Farm and an all purpose soil. I've gotten the three seed caps off that needed help, with no problems. As little as they are they are responding to things. We have a spiral light bulb (sunrise) and I've turned the pots twice today and they keep turning toward the light. As they were breaking ground, I put a few drops of water on them and they Loved it! I'm keeping the room warm, between 75 and 80 degrees. Working on getting them a better room so the natural sunlight can get to them. guitar.gif

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