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Soil Grow - Something Eating My Babies & It's Not A Dingo


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#1 diggler

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:45 AM

Hi all,

Strain: Aurora
Plants are about 4 weeks into vegging due for 12/12 very soon.
Soil grow - hand feeding.
6 x 22w household flurecants (which seem to be working nicely)

Something eating them, and fast enough too, I sprayed them with neem oil, that didn't seem to slow it at all. I'll leave it the pics to describe it better.

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#2 Turf

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:26 AM

that looks like a nute/ ph issue... not insect imo the newest veins are clearing and distorted..... to me that indicates a recent change in nutes or culture...
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:01 AM

I ph them at 6 - 6.2 No change in nutes. I'll have a closer look it, cheers
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:32 AM

Looks to me like those plants are over fed. Give them a real good flush with water @6.0 ph and don't feed them for a while.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:07 PM

I agree....no holes in the leaves, just distortion and off colour. Good luck!
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:13 PM

I think the other posters hit the nail on the head, I'd flush soil and foliar and see what happens. Good luck!
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:13 AM

Ok thnaks but you can't really see in the pics but there is holes in the leaves, that's what lead me to think BUGS.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:04 AM

If you have a magnifieing glass then examine the backs of the leaves. A hand held microscope works well too. And put a sticky trap near the plants. You can get them from wallmart or any home DIY store in the plant sections. Safer makes some that would work well. Leave it for 24 hrs then check it well. Many bugs only come out during lights off, so hopefully, it will have evidence of that. It does not sound like bugs if it is not ALL the plants.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:17 AM

I recently had a pattern of holes in one layer of one plant. Like you, I swore it had to be bugs. Since thenn, other signs pointed to a rich mix of food and water, to the point of burning holes in the young leaves. When the leaves grew the holes did too. Good luck, hope you find it!
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:03 AM

The deep green color and the damage on the leaves leads me to think it is over feeding. If it was in my garden I would just keep watering it like normal until it grew out of it or died... I had a plant do that once when I dripped nutes on the top node and when it grew out the fans were all burnt up.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:17 PM

Thank you all. I had a good close look at the backs of the leaves and no sign of anything there. It's just that it's only affected 2 plants - so I guess they need a little more attention than the rest. They have been flushed now so we'l see what comes of them.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:56 PM

I battled a Cal mag deficiency for several weeks once and it ended up being a PH issue lol its never what it seems to be.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:17 PM

How hot is the room getting and how close are those bulbs to the plants?
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:22 PM

Also,if not said yet...Check the sodium content of anything you feed your plants, cause excessive sodium causes nute lock out...and not just one nutrient, all are affected.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:35 PM

How hot is the room getting and how close are those bulbs to the plants?


Up to 27c - I rotate the plants and I keep the bulbs about 6" above. Why do yo ask?
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:44 PM

Why do yo ask?


Because it looks a lot like heat stress, and the fact that it isn't widespread makes me wonder if the heat from the bulbs is causing the problem. Is the plant damage mostly located in areas that are the closest to the bulbs?
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:49 PM

Dudz, that's a good thought, but he's using fluorescent tubes. I wouldn't think they're hot enough to burn like this.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:55 PM

CFLs can get too hot as well. Especially if they are close to the plant and the ambient temp in the room is already 27C / 80F.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:01 PM

Gotcha. I've only used CFLs over a reef tank, never over land plants.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:54 AM

Because it looks a lot like heat stress, and the fact that it isn't widespread makes me wonder if the heat from the bulbs is causing the problem. Is the plant damage mostly located in areas that are the closest to the bulbs?


No they're not really hot and I know what you mean but they far enough away from he plants, some bulbs are hanging closer than the effected ones so i doubt it's that. Good idea though
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