so dedicated that you didn't get to sleep? ugh... take some power naps and get that energy back up! I am amazed at your grow style.... and will be pouring over your journal from the beginning to watch the lst'ing closer. I copied your buckets with the zip ties and now have to get up the courage to bend the little ones over before they get too rigid.
So my question is.. do I have this right---> bend over at a 45 degree angle to start and do it on the main stem... then when 4 - 6" of new growth.. continue to bend around the pot.
ok, off to the beginning of the journal and will stare at the pics. If I could end up with a plant structure 1/4 as good as yours its a win win. I've heard some people top + lst.... but am not sure if it would make it more difficult, but hear it does increase yield.
- When there is new growth of 4"+ , do I release the part that was tied down and simply tie down in the new growth part
- You don't let the tie downs remain correct? or incorrect? (I am thinking I release each tie as a new one is placed)
- When doing this, am I aiming only to tie down the main stem? (I am getting nervous now that new shoots/stems are popping up and want to try and do this as closely to what is required... with a big learning curve of course.
thanks for showing a beautiful journal from beginning to end.. and its not over!
ps did you use a silica product at all to help with the bending or it was just started early enough that it wasn't an issue?
beautiful job there chow!!!
gonna bust out the whips and chains, eh? well, if you have any other questions, let me know...here's my try at answering the ones you've already asked
>i tie as soon as i feel the branch can take the strain. i usually wait until the new growth already has another node or two above it before i try to tie. when/if i tried to tie the younger stuff, it would just pop off or get all nasty and mangled.
>the angle i really don't pay attention to...just "listen" to your plants, they'll tell you when they're where they need to be
>i tie down for 3 days and release for 3 days, give or take. the tie will lead the plant where you want it to go via lst, the release will make sure that you're building good cell structure and you're not creating any weak-spots at any of the bends
>i always start "bottom-up", meaning i start w/ the main branch on the bottom and put a tie in the opposite direction i'll be pulling the top part (usually close to the top or at top, depending on age/size of plant). this ensures the plant stays "centered". as it ages, you'll have to adjust-up where you put the initial tie...you'll understand why when you see it, kinda hard to explain other than the plant goes "barky" and will have its lst-structure more pronounced as you go along.
>I DO NOT TOP, nor do i recommend. all my reading and studying has said that this isn't a viable way to increase yield and actually potency may suffer a bit. believe me, there's no need to top, if you're lst'ing like i did. these were tough to manage as is.
>no additives were used other than the grow/micro/bloom ferts amended to the medium
>first 2-3 weeks of flower, still lst! this is probably the most important time, but can be the hardest to do b/c of stretch and the stems start becoming rigid. keep an eye on how much and where you're bending b/c the propensity for the stem to "split" at the bend increases. ...ask me how i know.
>DO NOT FOLIAR FEED WHILE PLANTS ARE LST'd. i don't foliar feed at all, no needy. (well, i may be lying...i foliar fed like 3-4 times this go round, but it introduced more probs than it helped!!)
did i miss anything?