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#51 Vitolo

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 07:59 AM

The Vid links still take folks to my photobucket images, so people wont get bored! Thanks for your well wishes. I guess I will just have to have you all over for live demos!
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Posted 07 July 2011 - 10:03 AM

The Vid links still take folks to my photobucket images, so people wont get bored!
Thanks for your well wishes.
I guess I will just have to have you all over for live demos!


i am ok with this option
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 08:42 PM


I mentioned a couple weeks back about a container for herb I had ordered. I love this thing! It holds 4 good sized trenches of finely ground herb for MFLB. Doses for other vapes vary... but you get the idea! Airtight, and GREAT! I paid 87¢ each free shipping, and I just ordered more for "the gang"!

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:44 PM

Everybody could use a tool like this one.. and EVERY vape owner will love this. I just got a fantastic deal on it too. I am extremely pleased with this "find".
I needed a way to clean and soak not only my regular Zap stems, but my AromaZap Glass Tootie as well.
I researched extra tall shot glasses, but the ones that held 3 ounces began to cost alot and all had engravings!
I found that Libby sold Bud Vases, but they were 18 dollars....
I got this item for $2.50! (I ordered 2!)
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 02:37 PM

Many say that the SSV handheld wand is inconvenient. Once you get used to holding it, it becomes second nature. Here I move a loaded wand every which direction, and I make a number of natural moves... never spilling a drop.
VTV Presents: Gunslinging with that SSV Handheld Wand
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 05:16 PM

1st of all hi to you vito and thanks for this great thread i ve been reading this thru and thru and on last friday i ordered a mflb it s a holiday tomorrow here (independace day) but i hope to get it either on friday or on monday i think i ll be buying another "not portable" one later i ain t decided yet but i ll keep coming here reading and pondering about it for sure i ll keep u updated as of my experiences with it! thank you vito thank you!!!
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:51 PM

YVW... Thank you for having read.. and the MFLB is the bomb! You will love it.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 07:38 PM

thank you i m now officialy even more in a hurry to see the postman! ;) :)
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 08:29 PM

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Using the MFLB in secret is easy.. including the required "shakes" between each hit!
I am using one in this picture!
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 08:37 PM

I will be talking about the Life Saber. This will be divided into a couple of posts. The Life Saber is a $349 Vaporizer from the makers of DBV and SSV. The LSV (as it is refered to) is from time to time on sale as well. Due to the cost of this vape, and the relatively few owners, I am going to talk in this post about the package and contents, and later will post more about use and my impressions.

I am going to have to say all that I will need to say about this vape in more than one post.

Today I will tell about my impressions as I looked at the contents of my bag.
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Visible was the rock solid cylinder that is the LSV, and in the corner a stirring pick stuck in the label.
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Hidden in Ultra thick, and well padded pockets were two more objects. A long glass rod (the Vapor Tube), and the Water adapter.
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The glass Vapor tube fits snuggly into it's ground glass connection at the end of the Saber.
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The cap unscrews from the LSV to reveal the coonector, which is shaped like a spherical ground glass connector on the outside surface.
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With the cap off, the ground glass Heater cover fits snuggly against the water adapter.
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And... for the bad ass heavy hitters out there, the WaterPipe Adapter comes with this huge chamber as well!
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Don't be fooled by the apparent simplicity of the items I have shown here. This is serious vape tool, and due to it's value, and the present number of owners of this vape, I wish to post my impressions carefully.
Next post will be about the units use!
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 05:25 PM

First I want to talk about the transfer wand method of using this vape.

I will say that this is no toy. The LSV is a Vaporist's Vaporizer, and is not for the "casual experimenter".

Using the transfer wand one can go from Zero to "Totally Medicated" in seconds.

You can load a tiny pinch, or load as much as you might load into an SSV/DBV wand.

The transfer wand with the LSV is extremely easy to use. You suck some herb into the end as you would with the SSV wand.

I aim the LSV toward the ground to put the transfer wand in place. One inhalation with the wand in this position will let the herb, sort of stick itself in place, and then I am free to move the Life Saber in any direction I want.

There is very open, unrestricted air flow, and I found that I could inhale as fast as I could breath if I chose. The taste of this Vapor is 100% pure!

The video lacks my usual verbal rundown, as I turned the unit on, and got busy.

One wand can give you up to 6 or 7 hits exactly as full as you see me take here. I only took 3 hits, and you will see me turn the unit off, as I was fully medicated, and there was no use going further.

I will be posting a few Transfer Wand tips.. I will also be most likely ordering the "Shorty Transfer Wand", as the long one has proven to be even more than promised.

I will talk about he Water Method of using the LSV later on!

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 12:21 PM

volcano was pricey but all purpose for me
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 03:57 PM

this new toy of yours seems to make a lot of vapor allright ;) hope u ll enjoy it!!! btw have u tried this one??? : http://www.aromatek....ATHERAPY/Detail or have i missed it??? it seems to do it all! whip with and without fan AND bag your advice will not be overlooked! thanks
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 04:44 PM

I have used the unit. I will say this.. it has alot of bells and whistles. It definitely works for it's owners. If there is a chance you would ever want to use a bag system I would go with this,before the Volcano simply because you are not tied to the bag! It is not a heavy hitter at the whip, like an SSV, but the fact that you can use a whip instead of bag is a plus. You also do not have to use it with the fan, which with this unit is my preference. I did not master the remote control, but the owners again love it. A good thing to remember is that once you own a vape.. and devote time to it, you will find out it's tricks to get better hits. A Vaporist can learn to make any vape "sing and dance" I did not care enough for the unit to wish that I owned one. The SSV serves my whip needs.. and I dont care for bags. You can get a new SSV "blemished" for 190 ... you will never find the flaw! *** I think it is a great vape for one person looking to vaporize at home and mostly by themselves. In a group it works well also, IF... one of you is a extreme pro and the others let him guide.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 06:57 PM

My, my, Vito, you're quite the vaporizer guru it seems! so seems the perfect person to ask my question. It was recommended by my recommendation dr that use a vaporizer to medicate due to my asthma. I've been just smoking from a pipe and i must say it has cut down my inhaler use incredibly. I can't really afford to shell out the money for one of those volcano vaporizers and was looking more at the digital easy-vape vaporizer I saw them on ebay running anywhere from 50-80 dollar. what is your opinion on the easy-vape? just out of curiosity does a water bong do the same thing as a vaporizer where you're inhaling less toxic crap? or is it just like hitting a pipe where you get all the nasty, nasty with it? all this is still new to me so be gentle!
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 07:29 PM

I do bong/water hits to entertain the viewers on videos. I don't care for the whole "water thing". There is alot of cleanup involved, as resins stick to glass. I am talking now about Vaporizing ADDED to bong.. as for the bong with combustion, there is stuff filtered out, but also some minimum THC is removed ( hate to lose a drop!)
A water bong does not do anything close to vaporization.. tars remain as does carbon monoxide... both absent in vaporization.

I am not an easy vape fan, but any vape can be mastered and used well . It is important then to not feel less satisfied with your vape if you hear others say negative things about it. I did use an easy vape and I got medicated..
I recommend specific vapes for different functions. I own more than what I will list here.. but these are in my eyes the best in their categories. This is based on cost of repair (or relative needs of repair down the road)
Silver Surfer (SSV) Standard Heater Cover- hand held wand... the most versatile. a heavy hitter
Da Buddha(DBV) hands free... ground glass connection- less $ than the SSV
Vapir NO2- The most efficient Vape I know... anyone badmouthing Vapir is behind in their research, and what they say about ANY vape should be disregarded!
AromaZap- The best Log Vape made
Magic Flight Launch Box- MFLB- The most stealthy vape made.
Outside of these 4 vapes.. I do have preferences and opinions.. Easy vape gets alot of flack.. but it does work. Not many people that get one stay with it for very long.. but it is a fair vape to learn with.
You can get the vapes I list for as low as:
SSV-190
DBV-130
NO2 170
AromaZap 160
MFLB- 100

Edited by Vito, 29 July 2011 - 07:31 PM.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 08:25 PM

I do bong/water hits to entertain the viewers on videos. I don't care for the whole "water thing". There is alot of cleanup involved, as resins stick to glass. I am talking now about Vaporizing ADDED to bong.. as for the bong with combustion, there is stuff filtered out, but also some minimum THC is removed ( hate to lose a drop!)
A water bong does not do anything close to vaporization.. tars remain as does carbon monoxide... both absent in vaporization.

I am not an easy vape fan, but any vape can be mastered and used well . It is important then to not feel less satisfied with your vape if you hear others say negative things about it. I did use an easy vape and I got medicated..
I recommend specific vapes for different functions. I own more than what I will list here.. but these are in my eyes the best in their categories. This is based on cost of repair (or relative needs of repair down the road)
Silver Surfer (SSV) Standard Heater Cover- hand held wand... the most versatile. a heavy hitter
Da Buddha(DBV) hands free... ground glass connection- less $ than the SSV
Vapir NO2- The most efficient Vape I know... anyone badmouthing Vapir is behind in their research, and what they say about ANY vape should be disregarded!
AromaZap- The best Log Vape made
Magic Flight Launch Box- MFLB- The most stealthy vape made.
Outside of these 4 vapes.. I do have preferences and opinions.. Easy vape gets alot of flack.. but it does work. Not many people that get one stay with it for very long.. but it is a fair vape to learn with.
You can get the vapes I list for as low as:
SSV-190
DBV-130
NO2 170
AromaZap 160
MFLB- 100


OK, thank you for the info vito.

I think i will get the easy vape for now as it is definitely more affordable for me right now, then move on at a later time to one of the ones you recommended. I know my husband is almost always at a loss as to what to get me for Christmas :)

or i could just see if any of those you recommended are cheaper on ebay.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 08:37 PM

OK, the magic flight box one isn't too expensive, I like that you can hold it in your hand instead of dragging out a bulky thing. So i think i might just go with that instead of the easy vape. Might as well instead of having to buy 2 in the long run.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:03 PM

Then I will recommend that you get the MFLB from one of 2 places.... both are 119, and are the most recent versions... both are free shipping (arrives 48 hours). BlissSville (yes 3 S's) or PuffitUp. Both offer different freebies too. (The NO2 should only be gotten from an authorized distributer like Puffitup.. Vapir is strict about warranty!)

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:25 PM

Then I will recommend that you get the MFLB from one of 2 places.... both are 119, and are the most recent versions...
both are free shipping (arrives 48 hours).
BlissSville (yes 3 S's) or PuffitUp.
Both offer different freebies too.
(The NO2 should only be gotten from an authorized distributer like Puffitup.. Vapir is strict about warranty!)


What's NO2? sorry very new to this stuff and the terminology. Good thing i saw this before i went ahead and ordered from ebay. i'll even hold off till tomorrow incase there's even more wisdom you'd like to bestow on to this old gal!:)
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:59 PM

The NO2 is a unit made by Vapir.. one of the units I like to use. That would be the only one I am saying must be bought from an authorized seller. It is my unit to use for maximum efficiency, with herb. There are tons of vapes out there that are great. I had most. I kept the ones I am proud to recommend, and that I know to be problem free down the Vapor Trail. I will help as much as possible.. if you were in Arizona, I would say come on over!
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 11:09 PM

The NO2 is a unit made by Vapir.. one of the units I like to use. That would be the only one I am saying must be bought from an authorized seller.
It is my unit to use for maximum efficiency, with herb.
There are tons of vapes out there that are great. I had most.
I kept the ones I am proud to recommend, and that I know to be problem free down the Vapor Trail.
I will help as much as possible.. if you were in Arizona, I would say come on over!


lol! and i would come for the education! i appreciate all the help you have given me. thank you so much!
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Posted 31 July 2011 - 08:39 PM

I just finished another batch of ABV tincture.
I used a mason jar, that is my avb collection jar. It was a one quart jar that was exactly half full. The weed weighed approximatly 17 grams(just over a half ounce)
I covered it with everclear (190 proof-95%alc) completely and shook vigorously, then set the jar in the sun for two hours. I shook again very vigourously.
Next I folded a coffee filter in 1/4s to make a traditional funnel. I poked the funnelled filter into a seperate clean mason jar, and poured the dark alchohol mixture through.
I squeezed the hell out of the filter when it was done dripping, to get the last drops.
I then evaporated it
(I use a pot of not quite boiling water… and I set a pyrex measuring cup within that hot water, then turn on vent, and pour the tincture in the measuring cup.. it works fast)
About it not becoming too thick
When it is well evaporated, I pour it into a clear amber glass bottle that has an eyedropper.
I leave the top off the bottle and let the bottle sit open for the afternoon, near an open window so that a breeze can touch the open bottle.
I check the bottle every couple of hours.. by “swirling it” to see how it sticks to the bottle walls. if at any point it clings to the glass, and coats it- I stop. I add from the clean still unused dropper ONE drop of everclear. I am done.
If it just barely coats the bottle, but does not actually stick to the walls.. I stop and add nothing it is perfect.
You can test it, by using the eyedropper, and put one drip on a dish. touch it with finger, and then “contact thumb to forefinger tip a couple times to see if it starts liquid, but becomes tacky after a couple touches.
The mix today started with 17 grams of herb, and it rendered about a cup of dark colored ( green) everclear. After all evaporation and the mixture was thickish but not tacky to the touch.
The resulting tincture is just a little bit under 1/2 of this bottle.
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I put 4 drops under my tongue ( watch out.. very bitter) and an eyedropper full down my throat, and I get pretty buzzed. This can be used in a candy recipe too, , by proportioning the amount of tincture vs water… there is very little alchohol left now.
Yesterday I did this project but with a bit more abv. I did it with olive oil instead, of alcholol, and cooked the weed in the olive oil in the oven for 30 minutes at 300. then let it cool and I strained and squeezed out every drop (medical examining gloves and a collander. squeeze it like handfulls o f dirt!).
The brownies from this oil are cooking now ( Saturday Morning fun).
I already have had a glass of apple juice ( room temp works best) with a full dropper of tincture.
In answer to the main thing you asked…. about it becoming TOO thick. I do final evaporation in the pictured bottle. The small top of the bottle gives you VERY controlled evaporation!
Oh… the most amount I personally ever put in a tincture was 1.5 ounces of avb. remember… the everclear must cover the herb, and you will need to have vessels that will not be cumbersome when it is time to pour, and transfer, and filter. I never use a jar that can not be covered. Mason jars are a good size, and wide mouthed .. and if you need to step away, just cover them up.
Everclear is the highest proof alcohol you can get. always stay venilated!

Health food stores.. The “hippie” kind of places, that sell bulk foods and incense and bodyoils etc.
Some GNC stores have them (General Nutrition Center)
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30 ml mixing bottle with pipette for essences

I went into a local “Sunflower Market” for mine. They may be in your city too.
http://www.sunflower...80/Default.aspx
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Posted 31 July 2011 - 10:16 PM

Excellent! :D: thanks for posting this!:):woohoo: I'm still waiting for my vaporizer, since i ordered it on the weekends I'm guessing they'll actually ship it tomorrow and i'll have it atleast by Wednesday.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 11:29 AM

Hey Vito, a word to the wise for your future experiments :]

300*F for your olive oil infusion process is a bit too high, and you may end up with a stronger batch of higher concentrations of the remaining THC and whatever CBN/CBD is left if you process at a lower temp.

So in the case of processing cannabis that has already been exposed to the temperature of vaporization, many of the bud's available cannabinoids have already been elevated above their boiling points, and inhaled as a vapor. However, some of the stronger more resinous glandular trichomes will remain attached, and trace amounts of THC/CBD may still be available. There will be very little THC-A remaining, so decarboxylation is of minimal concern to us. Between the heat of vaporization exposure and the added heat of the soon to come olive oil wash, our decarboxylation needs will be taken care of. Much of the originally available THC may have already degraded into CBN simply during the vaporization process, and we don't want to degrade any more of the available THC.

As we want to prevent any further decarboxylation, we now want to process in the olive oil at under 176*F (as this will prevent decarboxylation) but above 160*F (as the melting points of the cannabinoids we are after are all below this temperature). See the graph below:

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At a temperature like 300*F, rapid decarboxylation is occurring, further degrading any more available cannabinoids, and therefore wasting THC! Remember, the path of degradation is THC-A, THC, CBN. It ends in sedation! The maximum preservation of cannabinoids lies in a lower temperature wash, where you are only melting trichomes off the bud material into bonds with the fats of your solvent, rather than decarboxylating them at the same time.

It just depends in which medicinal quality you are after, based on what cannabinoid/cannabinoids you need, and the temperature you should select for your extraction, in order to create a tincture that is as medically specific as possible! Closely control and modify temperature in order to dictate levels of degradation achieved, based on the decarboxylation graph above.


CANNABINOIDS, TURPENOIDS, AND FLAVOIDS PROPERTIES

?-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
Boiling point: 157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic Antibiotic Anticancer

cannabidiol (CBD)
Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic

Cannabinol (CBN)
Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Oxidation, breakdown, product, Sedative, Antibiotic

cannabichromene (CBC)
Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal

cannabigerol (CBG)
Boiling point: MP52
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal

?-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (?-8-THC)
Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Resembles ?-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic

tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV)
Boiling point: < 220*C / <428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Analgesic, Euphoriant



Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, and properties


ß-myrcene
Boiling point: 166-168*C / 330.8-334.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Analgesic. Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antimutagenic

ß-caryophyllene
Boiling point: 119*C / 246.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Cytoprotective (gastric mucosa), Antimalarial

d-limonene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Cannabinoid agonist?, Immune potentiator, Antidepressant, Antimutagenic

linalool
Boiling point: 198*C / 388.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Sedative, Antidepressant, Anxiolytic, Immune potentiator

pulegone
Boiling point: 224*C / 435.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Memory booster?, AChE inhibitor, Sedative, Antipyretic

1,8-cineole (eucalyptol)
Boiling point: 176*C / 348.8 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: AChE inhibitor, Increases cerebral, blood flow, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antiviral, Antiinflammatory, Antinociceptive

a-pinene
Boiling point: 156*C / 312.8 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Bronchodilator, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antineoplastic, AChE inhibitor

a-terpineol
Boiling point: 217-218*C / 422.6-424.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Sedative, Antibiotic, AChE inhibitor, Antioxidant, Antimalarial

terpineol-4-ol
Boiling point: 209*C / 408.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: AChE inhibitor. Antibiotic

p-cymene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antibiotic, Anticandidal, AChE inhibitor



Flavonoid and phytosterol components, their boiling points, and properties


apigenin
Boiling point: 178*C / 352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Antiinflammatory, Estrogenic

quercetin
Boiling point: 250*C / 482 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antioxidant, Antimutagenic, Antiviral, Antineoplastic

cannflavin A
Boiling point: 182*C / 359.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: COX inhibitor, LO inhibitor

ß-sitosterol
Boiling point: 134*C / 273.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, 5-a-reductase, inhibitor
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