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jangel · #1 11-03-2008, 09:29 AM

I have been meaning to start this thread for a bit now but had a run in with fungas gnats sooo....I had to make sure I would still have plants. So far I seem to be winning!

Here is the journal for one of my favorite tasting smokes so far: Blueberry ! brought to you by our good friends at High Grade Seeds. I have had these for a few months but you know how busy life gets! Anyway, I germinated these seeds starting on the 11th of October 2008, with the moist papertowel method and just put in the dark on a shelf above my t-5 lights. one promptly jumped into action, and the other 3 caught up a couple days later. I will just post pics and this is all ending with them being transplanted into their first deeper pots. I purposly let them streatch to add root volume to my plants. Now I have them under my T-5 florescent tube fixtrure at 6400k and with added red spectrum lights from the sides in front(T-8 size) and back (cfl's 2700k). They had some holes in the first leaves, I think from some damage from the fungan gnats, but they are going well past that now and strong. i still will bury the stem a couple of inches more when they are next transplanted, right up to and just under those coloidal leaves. Never above those.

jangel · #2 11-03-2008, 09:34 AM

...the rest are from the other day and yes, nice strong seedlings, well on their way to being what I love!

jangel · #3 11-03-2008, 09:46 AM

Here are my other girls. I transplanted these girls to big buckets Oct 6th and 11th so that is my date of flower starting. I will just post the pics to show the story ~ here are the clones I am flowering this time. 2 Kish ~ 2 WW x Skunk, and 3 Ambrosia. All have also had those damn fungas gnats but seem to be doing well...

Hope ya like them ~ ! ~

Peace!

jangel · #4 11-03-2008, 09:52 AM

...and also a Northern Flame! Here are some shots of my veging area and my clones over there. As well as my bonsia's. this is when the plants where first put to flower on the 6th of October.

jangel · #5 11-03-2008, 10:07 AM

I now have the White Widow cross into big pails. With the fungas gnats I have been holding the girls back as I wanted to get rid of them in the smaller containers. These girls have REALLY been held back as they where started in August from seed. Let us also see how these girls do as well!

..this is just Ambrosia! ....purdy huuuu???

jangel · #6 11-03-2008, 10:15 AM

..This is my other all time favorite, Kish, otherwise known as Shiskaberry from The Vancouver Seed Bank. Nice fruity taste, giggly high like blueberry. I have 2 I am flowering this time. I found it gets tall, and can be sensitive to nutes. Well worth it though.

As you can see many of my girls are LST'ed to increase the crop

...here we go!

jangel · #7 11-03-2008, 10:33 AM

I have been told this lot of seeds have so far not produced any boys. Let's hope that keeps true! These are the girls I
have held back from flowering. I also know they stretch big time in flower so I have just given them a big pail each. They where so pot bound, the roots where heavily wrapped around the rims of both plants. I am hoping the leaf problems I have seen where due to being root bound and not any other deficiancy. Yesterday they where potted up into big pails, with my variaition on vid's soil recipe and fed well with grandma eneggy's concoction, some stuff to kill the fungas gnats, which does not seem to have a bad affect on the plants so until I am sure they are 100% gone I will continue to use it, some molasses, superthrive, and FF Big Bloom. Here are the pics. With these girls I have topped them both long ago, one I am Supercropping, and the other I am LST'ing with chains, so I can see how they each react to the different techniques. Could be interesting!

jangel · #8 11-03-2008, 10:41 AM

Supercropped little White Widow ... then I started low stress training the other little White Widow. And last picture is both of them together.

...so far so good!

Any questions please ask! I love questions!

GSR · #9 11-03-2008, 10:43 AM

Jangle,
Thanks for another great thread, I never knew you could let a seedling stretch, to add root volume I need to try this, sounds like a useful technique. It also looks like you have a full house again. lol
GSR

jangel · #10 11-03-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GSR

Jangle,
Thanks for another great thread, I never knew you could let a seedling stretch, to add root volume I need to try this, sounds like a useful technique. It also looks like you have a full house again. lol
GSR

hey GSR! Thanks for taking a look! yes, I also let tomatoe plants stretch, that is why I thought of it, same with cukes. Anything that will make new roots on it's stalk you can do it to. flowers, whatever you grow!

I have even read of some growers putting rooting compound on that bit of stem and that it helps.

jangel · #11 11-03-2008, 10:53 AM

...and GSR, it is slower now, almost seems boring! I will have to get into grafting or something now! LOL! IF I can get rid of the fungas gnats! Until they are totally gone there is no point.

justplainbill · #12 11-03-2008, 01:15 PM

You have a talent for the green. Your babies look excellent. I am going to go indoors too.

jangel · #13 11-03-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wb456

You have a talent for the green. Your babies look excellent. I am going to go indoors too.

Why thank you kind sir! I also do like that grandma Ennggy stuff too! I will give my flowering girls somemore today, so I will let you know as they grow. Thanks for taking a look WB.

Next I want to make a cloner up. Like jonny's and bozo's. I need my clones into something I can get rid of, when root pruning for bonsai's. That is one lesson I have learned with all this.

jangel · #14 11-05-2008, 03:12 PM

Todays pics of the girls, I hope they are girls anyway! If you look closely you will see some silverie lines. I have no clue what these marks are. I thought it was due to the fungan gnats but the marks are still there on the newest leaves. I thought it was magnesium lack, so I have been giving them Mg/cl. and the marks are still there. The plants all look healthy so I guess that is all I can do for now. Anyone having suggestions, please tell me!

The last five shots are other plants suffering with this same thing.

ISO2BWELL · #15 11-05-2008, 06:07 PM

Hi Jangel,

Have they been foliar sprayed? If so, what I do (when the leaves look yuckky like that) is take and mix some Neem Oil and soap, then grab ahot cup of Decaf, turn on the stereo in the grow room and treat all my girls to a gentle hand washing of their leaves....each leaf on each plant.

They love it, and usually respond in kind...

ISO

jangel · #16 11-05-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ISO2BWELL

Hi Jangel,

Have they been foliar sprayed? If so, what I do (when the leaves look yuckky like that) is take and mix some Neem Oil and soap, then grab ahot cup of Decaf, turn on the stereo in the grow room and treat all my girls to a gentle hand washing of their leaves....each leaf on each plant.

They love it, and usually respond in kind...

ISO

Thanks Iso. I haven't foliar fed them or sprayed them. I don't know what it is. I will give them a wash down anyway. I am sure they will love it! Thanks Iso!

smoking Joe · #17 11-09-2008, 03:25 PM

Jangle,

Nice looking plants! I will be starting my grow in two weeks and can't decide on how many plants to start? I have five fem white widow seeds, using a four foot t5 light with four tubes 54 watts each. two are 3000k and two are 6400k. My grow room is 3 x 5 x 8. About how long will it take to harvest once the seeds germinate?

Thanks

Smoke

jangel · #18 11-10-2008, 08:19 AM

I beleive white widow is Sativa based for Flowering. This means they will take longer to finish flowering and ripen.

It depends how long you let them veg for. I know WW get tall. Many growers only veg for a short time to control the hieght of them. If the 8 ft is the hieght of your room, then you have the area the light takes to hang, and the distance between the light and the plants to subtract from the total hieght. WW continue to gain hieght once set to flower. I topped mine early, and many top again to control this. You can also control this and "hold them back" by keeping them in a smaller pot.

Okay so say you veg for 3 weeks, then replant into a larger container and let them show sex. They are feminized so that is a forgone conclusion, you hope, but watch for hermies. It can take anywhere from 9 to 12 weeks to have them ripen after that. So many things have to do with this it is hard to give you a hard and fast rule about this. I would say roughly 11 to 15 weeks if you are watching the trichs and only vegging 3 weeks. Add to that if you veg longer.

You can always add to your flowering plants if you have the room and overlap the flowering times, but once you have those girls flowering in there it is much harder to pull them back.

Start 2 for now, and see how it goes. If you need to you can add to that number.

OR you can start them all, and LST or supercrop them to control the hieght. Check out the link in my signature "LST'ing with hardware" for lots of tips on how to do both.

Also, check out the grow journals by Tokecrazy. He grows a WW strain in a cabinet and does wonders with them. You can also get some grow info on this type of plant this way. He does hydro but the plant reactions and growth paterns are pretty close in dirt or hydro.

Hope this helps you and welcome to Green passion!

Peace

RadioJock420 · #19 11-10-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jangel

I beleive white widow is Sativa based for Flowering. This means they will take longer to finish flowering and ripen.

It depends how long you let them veg for. I know WW get tall. Many growers only veg for a short time to control the hieght of them. If the 8 ft is the hieght of your room, then you have the area the light takes to hang, and the distance between the light and the plants to subtract from the total hieght. WW continue to gain hieght once set to flower. I topped mine early, and many top again to control this. You can also control this and "hold them back" by keeping them in a smaller pot.

Okay so say you veg for 3 weeks, then replant into a larger container and let them show sex. They are feminized so that is a forgone conclusion, you hope, but watch for hermies. It can take anywhere from 9 to 12 weeks to have them ripen after that. So many things have to do with this it is hard to give you a hard and fast rule about this. I would say roughly 11 to 15 weeks if you are watching the trichs and only vegging 3 weeks. Add to that if you veg longer.

You can always add to your flowering plants if you have the room and overlap the flowering times, but once you have those girls flowering in there it is much harder to pull them back.

Start 2 for now, and see how it goes. If you need to you can add to that number.

OR you can start them all, and LST or supercrop them to control the hieght. Check out the link in my signature "LST'ing with hardware" for lots of tips on how to do both.

Also, check out the grow journals by Tokecrazy. He grows a WW strain in a cabinet and does wonders with them. You can also get some grow info on this type of plant this way. He does hydro but the plant reactions and growth paterns are pretty close in dirt or hydro.

Hope this helps you and welcome to Green passion!

Peace

Wow, jangel you are a Very Deep well of knowledge. I have already learned much from you, Thanks much.

jangel · #20 11-10-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RadioJock420

Wow, jangel you are a Very Deep well of knowledge. I have already learned much from you, Thanks much.

Why thank you very very much. I am flattered. You will learn as well, and be helping someone yourself in time. Ask sentra. And me too,as well as many many others. It all will come to you too. Just keep reading and learning and you too will gain THE WISDOM. LOL!

...and keep asking questions.

Nice to have you here.

Peace