I thought I should at least show y'all what the 180 can do. These are Mango x Romulan which were vegged under the older model 90w tri-band UFO and started auto-flowering at about a foot tall. Weird, huh?

The rest of the grow is White Widow, which didn't flower until 12/12, which means they are WAY behind the Mango crosses.

I'm not showing the WW, because they're so stretched and it's not the light's fault. I had WAY too many plants vegging under a 90w light and I didn't wanna buy a new bulb for my old 400w HPS. So, the WW stretched and the Mango crosses bloomed.

Tonight, I'm gonna put them under two different lights, so they can finish nicely, even if they had a weird upbringing.

Oh, by the way, those are 1 gal buckets and I burned them pretty bad with Tiger Bloom, too. They look ok, I guess, considering what a harsh childhood they had.

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Looking good dude...Looks like those leds are doing you right =)

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holy god.. I just smoked some of my **** i grown and it didnt hit me im like wtf... Then BAM ****ing wacked me!!

Looks sick bro.. Im going to pick up ur LED's 2 or 3 of the 180watt ufo's

Nice... love the creeper weed!

I tell you guys... these plants look like crap, compared to what they could look like. I didn't do a good job, as a grower. I was too busy and I let things slide and they still look alright. Give these lights to a REAL grower and they will amaze us.

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how do they compare in g/W

that's the 64 thousand dollar question right there.

looks nice very nice i have always wondered about the leds.... im still hooked on the hids hmm..... go figure

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I can't give you a flat number any more than you can tell me how many GPW I might get with a 600w HPS. There are too many variables - the same ones in both cases.

So, I might get 1/2 GPW and you might get 3/4 and some other guy might get 1.5.

I can positively state that most growers buy a lamp and try it. Then, they order 5 - 10 more lights a couple of months later.

Up until now, we have had only one person ask for a refund - after seven days. I'd say he shouldn't have spent the money and needed it to pay his rent or something. No one else has asked for a refund - not one person out of many hundreds of lights sold. Of course, 99% of those guarantees haven't been in force for the full 90 days. But, when a customer with a 90-day guarantee orders five more lights, you can be pretty sure they won't be asking for a refund later.

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Potential gram/watt for any light is fairly constant, the only difference is how close each grower, strain and system are able to come. With HID so many grows have been documented that we know a 600 watt HPS has around a 2 gram per watt ceiling (when used either vertically or on a mover), or 1 gram per watt ceiling when used statically in a horizontal position.

Some people may get slightly higher, but not dramatically so. The average grower when starting out will almost certainly yield less, but the potential is still there.

We don't know the potential for LED because it has not been documented enough. I've seen a half a gram per watt at the high end and much less from many more. Is that LED's potential probably not, we need more data.

What we need is all these people with new LED lights to do some grow journals, make LED as well documented (or rather start making) as HID.

Thats very true.. I will be starting a thread say tonight?

I will need a little bit of help on the electronics I need to order etc etc..

Im finishing my room as i type haha.. Room is done just have to hang the door, more lights, my electronics,c02 etc etc and making my aereoponics..

I'll be getting the 180watt LED UFO from Michael.. I will make a journal..

Michael I wont return mine bc of rent? lol!! I owe ( 0 ) on this house. PHEWWWW.... wish me luck...

Break a leg!

We definitely need more data, for sure. I'm especially interested in any kind of direct comparison grows between LED and HPS. I will LOVE to see some master gardeners get hold of these lights and unlock their mysteries. I feel there is a lot of potential that remains untapped simply because the right people don't have these lights yet. But, everything in its time, eh?

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hey this went dead wtf bro! haha

I think they look pretty good Michael

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Very nice, Michael. Here are two of my budsicles from under my 400w HPS. I have 22 plants under one 400w HPS...mostly like this. I would like to see this happening with the LED.

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Hey Mike,

What do think of Tiger Bloom? Would you recommend it to other growers?

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wait...22 plants under 1 400watt hps and ur flowering them? I need to see more plz!! Thats awesome... I'm prob getting 2 of the jumbo 180 watters...

Wow some purple trichomse

THat's Pretty My Lady, Great Work,,Look's Might Tasty!!!!EH!!!!

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Here's a pic from another grower. This was done under a 180.

It's a lower nug finishing up after the initial harvest.

Mine are finished, already. They were strong but I didn't take pics cuz they were burnt to a crisp. It was embarrassing.

Thanks Miracle Grow Perlite!!

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