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Old 07-21-2009, 07:48 AM
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Well, the new 5-Band LEDs came out about two weeks ago - and people are already using our videos to sell their inferior lights! Check this guy out: MMJSpots' Scam Channel

Pay special attention to these two vids:





Those are Illuminator LED lights in those videos!!

So, check out the link he posts for the lights: MMJ Spots scam

You see any Jumbo UFOs (which is a trademarked name, btw) or so-called 600 watt LEDs there? Me, neither. But, here's what happens when you ask about the lights. This is a copy of emails sent with the last 24 hrs. I asked about the lights on YouTube and registered on his site. In almost no time, I got an email:

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:06 PM, MMJSpots.com <admin@mmjspots.com> wrote:

Hey this is the owner of MMJSpots.. I seen you asked me a question on the site so I just wanted to give you the link.. Its mmjspots.com/forum/growers/leds and you can pay with a CC, or paypal. We literally have the best prices on these lights anywhere! No markup at all on these. Enjoy and post some pics up when your happy with the results! facebook.com/album.php?aid=4422&id=100000016884390&l=252ceac201 CHECK THIS OUT!! J Not a pro L but a ufo and two 45’s from Sunshine-Systems.. Same lights that are sold on our site.

From: Michael Allison
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 3:13 PM
To: MMJSpots.com
Subject: Re: LED Lights from YouTube.


I'm looking to replace some 1000 watt HPS lights. I'm really interested in the 600 you have on YouTube. But, I don't see it on your site. Where can I find out more about those?

Thanks!

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:32 PM, MMJSpots.com <admin@mmjspots.com> wrote:

The one that was posted on youtube was a cheap one on eBay.. The only ones that have been tested are the ones we posted on the site.. The one in particular was a piece of junk.


From: Michael Allison
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:14 PM
To: MMJSpots.com
Subject: Re: LED Lights from YouTube.


I'm confused... the plants under that 600 watt looked pretty nice and I need to think big because I need to replace quite a few 1000 watt HPS. What would you say are my best options?

Thanks.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:32 PM, MMJSpots.com <admin@mmjspots.com> wrote:

If you are trying to replace your 1000watt HPS I would absolutely recommend the Pro MMJ Spots scam Look at this thing.. They have done exclusive testing on their lights.. Did you see my aeroponics room with these lights?

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So, one must ask... if the lights are so bad, why are the plants under it so awesome and why is this guy using videos of our inferior products to sell his lights? If you think that's amusing, how about this line "We literally have the best prices on these lights anywhere! No markup at all on these." So, I guess he's just a really nice guy that sets up a shopping cart and doesn't even make a profit!! My hero.

The moral of the story?

Do your homework before you hand some con artist on the internet a big chunk of change for a cheap piece of junk.

We have a response for this guy, and at least six others, who are using videos of our products and literature from our site to rip patients off. We are already working out a way to be sure our lamps can be authenticated as true Illuminator LEDs. Plus, Mr. Anonymous, at MMJ Spots will find himself in some serious trouble before the end of the week. We won't let this kind of thing go unanswered. Homey's in deep doodoo on a number of fronts.

The bottom line is simple. We will fiercely protect both growers and our brand against any sort of misrepresentation or deception. Anyone who wants to fool around like this will soon wish they had found some other mark. Because, we will be utterly merciless.
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Curious.I'm not selling anything man-but I can say the right leds certainly are not "crap".But maybe you know something I dont.Lets compare led grow logs.Someone that speaks with such authority must have grown with them before.Proofs in the pudding, and anyone thats followed my grows can attest that I have many pics of dense led buds.To be honest, I could care less what you use to grow your stash,but for the last year, I havent bought one bag of weed.I know what I know, and never go by "I heard", or "I saw".
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I remember when people said you couldn't grow good bud indoors, at all. At the time, they were right. But, that changed as the technology developed. This is no different. We all know LEDs will be equal to HPS one day, if not better. Is it so hard to believe that someone has finally figured it out?

Like you say, though, seeing is believing. See the videos I posted - especially the one with the Illuminator 350 Hybrid, which he is calling a 600. See and believe.

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I remember when people said you couldn't grow good bud indoors, at all. At the time, they were right. But, that changed as the technology developed. This is no different. We all know LEDs will be equal to HPS one day, if not better. Is it so hard to believe that someone has finally figured it out?

Like you say, though, seeing is believing. See the videos I posted - especially the one with the Illuminator 350 Hybrid, which he is calling a 600. See and believe.

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thanks Michael.Just ordered the 5 band.Cant wait!!
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led's are crap anyway.They dont grow big dense buds like HID lighting. The conman will jump on it to rip you off,let alone the led's do that too.With anything where's the prove?CFL'S and HID lighting all the way.They work and do it very well. My 2 cents. Peace
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