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(Letter to the Joint Chiefs of Staff - Dated 1/10/2009)

Sirs:
The United States is facing the worst Constitutional Crisis since South Carolina seceded from the Union. It could well split the military between those who will stand by the Constitution vs. those who stand by traitors in order to keep their military offices. The major difference is that the secession was covered by the media of the day but this crisis is being hidden by the media or when covered, much misinformation has been provided to deceive We the People. When we who know about this crisis try to BUY time on TV, we are refused.

WHO HAVE PROVEN TO BE TRAITORS?

1. The Electors failed to do their Constitutional duty after being educated as to the crisis.

2. On Jan 8, 2009, the entire Senate and House of Representatives dishonored their oath to sustain and defend the Constitution after also being educated about this crisis.

3. The Federal Courts, including the Supreme Court, are using all types of legal technicalities as an excuse not to keep their oath.

The ONLY group that is left to turn to is the military. If you fail us we have two choices left. First, we can submit to the fall of our Constitutional Republic and live under a New World Order or SECOND we can do as the Patriots did in 1776 and win back our liberties under God. I believe most retired military will take that position as I would. "Don't Tread On Me" will be our theme like it was the former Patriots.

I spent four years as USAF Officer from 1963-1967. Then, I spent 7 years as an Officer in the Indiana Air National Guard while obtaining my Doctorate Degree in Business at Indiana University.

When I was Commissioned as a USAF ROTC Officer at Penn State University in March, 1963, I swore to "Uphold and Defend the Constitution of the USA against ALL enemies foreign and DOMESTIC so help me God." I have always taken that oath seriously and feel it is still applicable even though I no longer serve in the USAF.

I KNOW that you took that same oath and hold it dear to your heart as I do. I also KNOW that implied within that oath is to follow all orders given by the President as Commander in Chief IF they are Constitutional. That oath clearly places loyalty to the Constitution above anyone who gives unlawful orders, including the POTUS.

BACKGROUND BRIEFING ON THE CRISIS WE FACE

There are three types of citizens.

First is the natural born. This person can run for President if in addition he/she is at least 35 years old and has lived in the USA for 10 years or more. The two relevant requirements to be natural born are listed below.

Second, is the native citizen. This person is born to at least one parent who is an American citizen.

Third, is to become a naturalized citizen through a legally defined process.

It is either the second or third category that Mr. Obama belongs in. In terms of elected office, all three types of citizens can legally run in EXCEPT for the office of POTUS.

THE PROBLEM is that Mr. Obama cannot be Commander in Chief and give any lawful orders to follow. Why? The Constitution REQUIRES that any POTUS be a natural born citizen which entails:

(1) being born on US soil and

(2) having both parents be USA citizens at the time of birth.

Mr. Obama meets neither of these two requirements. His father was a citizen of Kenya. He even admits this in his book. As such, he was a citizen of the British Empire. At that time (1961) one could not have duel citizenship. Citizenship followed the father.

Mr. Obama also was born in Kenya, not as falsely claimed in Hawaii.

Mr. Obama has spent many 1000s of dollars for law firms to make sure NO ONE sees his long form, original, vault birth certificate in Hawaii. The reason is???? We think it's because the Hawaiian long form, original, vault birth certificate will show that he was physically born in Kenya.

ALL WE HAVE ASKED FOR FROM OBAMA AND THE COURTS IS TO SEE THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND HAVE IT TESTED BY A TEAM OF DOCUMENT FORENSIC SCIENTISTS.

The media has willingly deceived the public by claiming that the CERTIFICATE of BIRTH shows he was physically born in Hawaii. Such websites as FactFinder have willingly and knowingly deceived the public that Mr. Obama has been properly vetted.

I am the Chairman of www.restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.org. We have much information showing that what I've said above is true and accurate. The best place to start is at http://restoretheconstitutionalrepub...hp?board=124.0.

A RECENT SURVEY TAKEN BY THE ARMY TIMES INDICATED THAT OVER 60% OF ACTIVE MILITARY ARE NOT SURE WHETHER THEY CAN FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF MR. OBAMA. THIS IS UNHEARD OF. THIS IS BEFORE THE TRUTH ABOUT MR. OBAMA BEGINS TO SEEP OUT. Our military is way overextended as you well KNOW. One must have 100% confidence in the validity of orders given and by whom if we are to maintain our freedoms through military action.

It is now up to you to stand up and defend the Constitution against DOMESTIC enemies as you swore you would. How? I know what won't work because we've already petitioned Congress, the Electors, President Bush, the Courts and the Main Stream Media. VP Cheney even broke the law on Jan 8, 2009 when he finished recording the Electoral votes of all 50 States. He was required by law to ask for any objections which can also come from citizens. He purposely failed to do this.

Many petitions for a Call to Order were sent by our volunteers to various Senators and Congressmen demanding a vetting. These too were totally ignored.

ACTIONS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN BY THE JCS.

IF you don't take action before Jan 20, 2009, you will have proven yourselves to be unworthy to hold your commissions and will have broken a solemn oath you've made to defend the Constitution against ALL DOMESTIC enemies. These are hard words but are true words.

YOU ARE WE THE PEOPLES LAST HOPE FOR A PEACEFUL SETTLEMENT OF THIS CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. OF ALL AMERICANS I'VE EVER KNOWN IN MY 67 YEARS, THE MILITARY IS THE MOST COURAGEOUS IN DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC TO THE EXTENT OF BEING WILLING TO GIVE UP ONE'S LIFE IF THAT BECOMES NECESSARY.

YOU MUST STAND UP TO AVOID WHAT I BELIEVE WILL BECOME A BLOODY CIVIL WAR. THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE TREASON TO THE CONSTITUTION ANY LONGER FROM OUR "REPRESENTATIVE?????"

YOU AND I MUST HONOR THE MILLIONS WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES FOR THE CONSTITUTION. WE MUST REMEMBER WHAT THE SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WERE WILLING TO DO.

ARE YOU MILITARY LEADERS IN THE GREAT TRADITION OF GENERAL GEORGE WASHINGTON OR IN THE TRADITION OF GENERAL BENEDICT ARNOLD? YOUR ACTIONS IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS WILL LET WE THE PEOPLE KNOW OF WHOM YOUR ROLE MODEL IS.

For a Restored American Constitutional Republic,

Dr. Douglas W. Schell
Chairman, Restore the CONSTITUTIONAL Republic
336-983-7655

Sheesh! Why is this stuff being promoted on a Medical Marijuana web forum ?
I thought the Forum Topic of POLITICS was provided for marijuana-specific news items and discussions, not to foment division.
I wish I could be more polite but, I find this an egregious act of taking advantage of this forum.
Perhaps if you would like to discuss politics beyond Marijuana you could join my discussions @ Richard Owl Mirror | Gather

i took the liberty of undeleting this thread and moving it to its proper place.
thanks

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It's always interesting to me that, during times with such complex and intractable issues, some folks will grab hold of one fairly irrelevant issue, to the exclusion of all else, and ride that sucker for all it's worth.

I'm a little bored with conspiracy theories. Mostly, because there are so few actual conspiracies. Why? People talk. Try stopping them. The "real" conspiracies, like Watergate and Roswell, are well-known. Because people talk.

But, it gives people something to latch on to that they can understand. So, they latch. Anyone who believes the average conspiracy theory probably isn't very capable of understanding the real problems we face. Go ahead, try talking to them about trade deficits, the mortgage crisis and any other complex problem we face and see what happens?

It's as predictable as sunrise. But, it's nowhere near as beautiful or interesting.

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because freedom is freedom, no matter how you look at it

as for irrelevant conspiracy theories and such issues, to me its like religion, like elvis or the lochness monster. an opium for the populace. i think people will feel the need to believe in the unseen for as long as there are people in the universe.

many such theories are actually internal counter espionage - deliberate misinformation, things like roswell, and most ufo sightings from the fifties till today. such theories are let to run wild to cover other things. in the fifties to seventies and well into the eighties many ufo sightings were nothing more than sightings of ultrasecret airforce projects.

i am not saying there isnt alien lifeforms in the universe. theres enough evidence in my opinion to be able to say it can be true, from statues found in ancient civilisations to the fact that every modern government in fact takes them seriously is enough to give the idea credit. but i believe around 95% are no hoaxes but rather terrestrial unidentified flying objects.... how did i sidetrack to ufo's?????

anyway, yeh, people have a need to believe in the unseen, be it god or THEM...

whatever, i could go on an on like a madman, but i wont...

peace
ileso

now whether our current situation is a world wide conspiracy towards a NWO or not is beside the point. the fact is that we are becoming less and less free. our governments or those that run them are becoming more and more fascist. your U.S constitution is being trampled and torn up. you and I, most everyone on earth is owned. we are serfs again. slaves to the banks. and that is the truth. so whether its premeditated or simply a casuality, it is in effect real. we have no say in the matter.

and if that doesnt concern you guys it damned as hell concerns me and i'm not even american. why? because when a super power like the U.S turns into a fascist dicating state let loose on the word thats not good for anyone. a country that was once a standard of freedom and democracy does a flipside 180. it concerns everyone. because if YOU THE PEOPLE have no rights, then what the hell is in store for the rest of us? we arent even american, ie: protected by the US constitution.

like i said freedom is freedom.
and its freedom this site stands for. be it freedom to smoke or freedom to speak and criticise. this site is about changing mentalities.

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and its not fomenting division, its voicing concern

Very well put dude... I couldnt have said it better myself


Welcome to the Divided States of America...

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I love the way you think Ileso.... Why is it that people are only interested in politics if the subject suits them? There is alot more going on in this crazy place we call the world other than our fight for the beloved Cannabis. Politics is everywhere, work, school, you name it. I say you keep enjoying that freedom and keep posting brother. People are affraid of what they dont know. Share your knowledge with the world. Cant garuntee who will listen, but im all ears buddy...

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I believe the man told us not to eat the f*@#in apples, never did I read "Dont smoke the forbidden herbs" LOL.....

they brought the fight into the world arena. we have to adapt and learn to play or fight by the new rules... maybe it used to be every man for himself. but they changed the rules.

like i said above this isnt fomenting division, its about standing together

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i think someone once said that if some will lead others will follow.
but we cant all just sit back and wait for miricles. people make their own destinies... these guys "#%#$ up the planet didnt get where they are by sitting on their arses you know. we have to also be active in telling them

1 whos boss
2 we arent happy with the way things are done.

and we cant fall into the traps ahead. those that lead must have the integrity to take the fight to the end. and to not let themselves be bought. thats what most scares me, humanity at work. personal greed. it touches all of us.

america, inspire me again like you once did.
make me feel what i used to feel as a kid when i learnt what being american meant, when i first read about your constitution of freedom. remind me of the chills of pleasure that i had when i discovered that beautiful yellow flag with a rattlesnake.
remind me of power of unity. of how the words 'dont tread on me' struck fear in the hearts of the enemies of freedom.

jesus, and i am not even american.

the words united states of america represents everything humanity is capable of, it represents a man on the friggen moon!

.. i'm outa here before i work myself into a frenzy. and i got no pot. freedom should be that i could now walk out the door, cross the bloody street, go to the lebanese corner shop and by a few grams of fresh red lebanese...

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*sigh*

Dammit! Why do you have to be so right, ileso?

I wish I could argue and tell you America still kicks butt. But, we've been sold down the river and most of us are either too stupid or too lazy to care.

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Sad to think, tht our citizens used to be so proud of where we came from. Now I hesitate to tell people where I live. Maybe I should moved to Canada or out west somewhere...lol

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I believe the man told us not to eat the f*@#in apples, never did I read "Dont smoke the forbidden herbs" LOL.....

oh dont worry about america kicking but, its about all america does at the moment they have finally turned it into an art

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That is what most people fail to realize. It's the constitution is almost non existant in the eyes of the law and most "lawmakers" please watch aaron russo's "america - Freedom to fascism"

Aaron russo does an interview with a former IRS Comissioner who pretty much said that the 16th amendment is invalid..

America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version

http://tinyurl.com/c3ho29

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Aaron Russo has credibility. RIP Arron. I hope your message gets out to as many americans as possible. because if we stay ignorant we shall go down hard. Join together as brothers and sisters. I think the most potent part of the film is a quote from woodrow wilson. That alone says alot to what has happened to this country..

Americans are about to wakeup and see what the so called 'conspiracy theorist' have been warning of has happened. We/World are about to be absorbed into a NWO and it really makes me angry to see our men and women in the military be used to further the NWO plan and to die for the lies and deceit of Military Industrial Complex of the USA gov .

I watched a video just yesterday of George Soros prepping the masses for a global money ran by the UN with China leading the way. He said they are the strongest financially or something to that effect. Well, Hell yeah they are! Everything I pick up to buy in the USA is made in China. Grrrrrrr.....

Pfft...I better stop now. lol

its not the fact that everything we have here is made in china, its the fact that they bought most of those sub-prime mortgages before the big housing collapse, so they do actually own a great deal of real estate here. What happens if they want to collect on that debt that we can't pay, we going to have a bunch of chinese moving in cause they own the place?

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