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Old 07-21-2008, 12:32 PM
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I can't seem to find much information on what would happen if the LEO's find out about growing MJ here in Canada. I found this url:
Cannabis Reform Bill

This is proposed legislation, I'm wondering what the current laws are. Does it matter if I only grow 3 plants or is it the same penalty between 3 plants or 30 ?

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the current laws are in the manor that the judge can decide which means you end up with a few bucks less but as a free man in most provinces besides Alberta and Saskatoon, where you will be booked for sure, for a few plants (less then 10-12). that was at least my impression.

i would check with Marc Emery's lawyer Kirk Tousaw and his web block www.tousawlaw.ca
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Thanks Green. Looks like it is up to the Judges, not a lot of difference between 3 and 199 plants. Seems a person is better off doing one really big crop every so often and then not growing any mj. Sigh, time to move to Switzerland :-)
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Thanks Green. Looks like it is up to the Judges, not a lot of difference between 3 and 199 plants. Seems a person is better off doing one really big crop every so often and then not growing any mj. Sigh, time to move to Switzerland :-)
first, moving there won't help you at all as Switzerland is recriminalising marijuana again. they had a lope hole in their laws and once been pretty close to be a democracy but since becoming a member in the freakin EU is on their political agenda this has change drastically and plenty of people get jailed on growing again. in some cantons it is still a bit more relaxed then in others but in general it is not an ideal place to grow.

i would stay up north and rather then move get active in promoting an end to prohibition as there are still good chances to get it thru as soon as harper is gone which is a question of weeks and not years with all his constant f***ups. they try to lull us in but i think many start to catch on lately.

besides, if you try to run it is like with dogs casing a rabbit, in the end the rabbit will lose if it tries to run but if it digs it has a chance of survival. and if plenty of rabbits dig under the base the house of lies will collapse
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first, moving there won't help you at all as Switzerland is recriminalising marijuana again. they had a lope hole in their laws and once been pretty close to be a democracy but since becoming a member in the freakin EU is on their political agenda this has change drastically and plenty of people get jailed on growing again. in some cantons it is still a bit more relaxed then in others but in general it is not an ideal place to grow.

i would stay up north and rather then move get active in promoting an end to prohibition as there are still good chances to get it thru as soon as harper is gone which is a question of weeks and not years with all his constant f***ups. they try to lull us in but i think many start to catch on lately.

besides, if you try to run it is like with dogs casing a rabbit, in the end the rabbit will lose if it tries to run but if it digs it has a chance of survival. and if plenty of rabbits dig under the base the house of lies will collapse

hey harper isn't doing that bad look at what the liberals did a few years back when something like 2 billion of tax payers money went missing, i have a friend who's dad is a liberal mp in my town and he told me that jean creatien brother in law or cousin in law anyway someone directly related holds a 25 year contract to cater food to all political buildings in Ottawa and and its worth something around 15 million and all these government guys are allowed 45$ a day for personal food expenses mean while they have high paid gourmet cooks on hand all thanks to the liberals , but i do agree harper did not stack his deck the way he should have
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but since becoming a member in the freakin EU is on their political agenda this has change drastically
um switzerland isnt part of the UE.
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dude, i know that they aren't a member yet but they are in the process of becoming a member in the next decade due to some politics that didn't figured it that the EU is a bad thing for Switzerland as for everyone else - guess why the Irish voted against it
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hey harper isn't doing that bad look at what the liberals did a few years back when something like 2 billion of tax payers money went missing, i have a friend who's dad is a liberal mp in my town and he told me that jean creatien brother in law or cousin in law anyway someone directly related holds a 25 year contract to cater food to all political buildings in Ottawa and and its worth something around 15 million and all these government guys are allowed 45$ a day for personal food expenses mean while they have high paid gourmet cooks on hand all thanks to the liberals , but i do agree harper did not stack his deck the way he should have
well we could with what about harpers trips to hockey games, using CA jets for private activities - something he flamed the liberals for despite that they paid for their trips - if activities to drive on NAFTA, being so close linked to DC all the time...

Both sides have had their scandals and i'm sure not a friend of the many things the liberal brought us lately, but to face it: Canadian politicians are as stuck in the neocon corner as their counterparts south. We just got as many corruptionist in Ottawa as there are in DC, sovernty is down the drain - and that is so long before DEA agents arrested Marc Emery in Vancouver - and if we don't watch out pretty soon we will lose this pearl to a on-world gov you and me haven't voted for.
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Just a basic question on this stuff, when people get busted with X amount of plants, do they only count the Females??? Does not seem fair if they do count the males, just a question..

And if they do count the males, what is the reasoning behind it?

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Just a basic question on this stuff, when people get busted with X amount of plants, do they only count the Females??? Does not seem fair if they do count the males, just a question..

And if they do count the males, what is the reasoning behind it?

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take a guess Sock - the sized weight they "publish" is not the weight of trimmed buds but the entire plant - do you think that they go then thru the hassle of sorting out males and female?

the hole reason behind this is that they need to justify what they do - locking up citizens for a plant that posses NO real dangerous - and one method is exaggeration of facts till only lies are left. Just look how they stigmatize every grow room as public health risk despite lacking any evidence that this is the case, or how they claim that commercial grow ups us child labor (a favorite BS claim in GB), or that we willingly grow mold in our basement - all BS but still the mass media is putting it out without a fact check or applying common sense to this prohibitionist's claim to figure what they are: ONE BIG STINKING LIE FOLLOWING THE PREVIOUS STINKING LIE


they have to keep the lie going or run out of business and become obsolete (which they are since this madness started) and that is the simple 'n' brutal reasoning behind their business methods Sock.
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take a guess Sock - the sized weight they "publish" is not the weight of trimmed buds but the entire plant - do you think that they go then thru the hassle of sorting out males and female?

the hole reason behind this is that they need to justify what they do - locking up citizens for a plant that posses NO real dangerous - and one method is exaggeration of facts till only lies are left. Just look how they stigmatize every grow room as public health risk despite lacking any evidence that this is the case, or how they claim that commercial grow ups us child labor (a favorite BS claim in GB), or that we willingly grow mold in our basement - all BS but still the mass media is putting it out without a fact check or applying common sense to this prohibitionist's claim to figure what they are: ONE BIG STINKING LIE FOLLOWING THE PREVIOUS STINKING LIE


they have to keep the lie going or run out of business and become obsolete (which they are since this madness started) and that is the simple 'n' brutal reasoning behind their business methods Sock.
Thanks and that is what I wanted to hear ( knew it ), just wanted someone else to expalin it better than me.. This is how our Govt works, so how do we as people (not dope smokers in general) get our friends and neighbors to see this. It's like the govt just takes bits and pieces from all of our rights, but in a way that we can not all come to agreement on. NRA, medical MJ, you name it..:( Sad day in the USA, WE as PEOPLE need to take back this country, but how do we do it??????/

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Good Question. Thought i'd bring it up haha.
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