i often lurk here and other sites and in moment of contemplation i came across a thread of this nature at GC.

Questions

Q#1 Does absolutely No One (besides people you live with) know you grow?

Q#2 If so, how do you keep your good friends fooled?

Q#3 And do you feel bad about lying to your good friends?

Q#4 If anyone outside your home does know, how concerned do you get that your secret will get out to the wrong people?

so i guess i go first then.

Q#1 two people other then my wife. first is a very old friend mine, i had my crawl space flood once along time ago and he found my secret basement (i have secret trap door in the floor to my grow) while we were in the crawl space under the house. he never said anything or asked what the basement was about, but a 150 degree blast of heat out a 4inch hole in a secret concrete basement wall isn't hard to guess when your a seasoned toker. many years later now cares for them when i travel for long periods of time.
second person my brother he helped me build the grow cab and surrounding storage that hides it. he grows too . . . he is the other care taker
Q#2 I fool my close friends by falsely aging and rubbing all the love off the buds i take out to socialize (untouched is only for the wife, bro and i). i have huge a amount of hash because of this. I've heard of growers bringing to a fresh a bud to a place and people asking questions.
Q#3 sure i feel bad till i look in my stash box and see the chunks of hash that helps to keep me outta jail
Q#4 i have no fear at all. my friend is a libertarian not to be a joke but he truly doesn't think its wrong and often snoops around to try and catch me not being careful about things. he has called me out a time or two for things i thought were ok, such as composting remains we almost came to blows "i'll sock you in the jaw" over this issue.
i have the urge to tell people from time to time but only when they say things like you can grow pounds to yourself with no work and its basically free. I'm thinking "you know how much ventilation lights and work, free! i live in my grow two hours a day! s##t come sterilze that cab one time you'll see things diffently" then i bite my tongue and burn my finger so i never think of opening my mouth about it again.

good night and good luck, Hansle

very good

GOOD POST,, SOMETHING WE ALLL NEED TO REMEMBER,,

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take a whack at answering some of the questions. the different points of view that people had were what made the thread so insightful.

Q#1 Does absolutely No One (besides people you live with) know you grow?

i have always been a bit lax in this department.. usually my closest friends will know. only one or two, but there are always leaks as these people feel its ok to tell THEIR mates .. so on and so forth... some of us stoners cant contain the excitement of our beaut crops.. the downfall of many a fine grower.. but on our heads be it. its not for lack of warning

Q#2 If so, how do you keep your good friends fooled?

anyone else other than the above people, think 'ileso' grows it and hes a real old timer hippie, ... you can bet your life the legend around this guy grows everytime i recount the trips to visit him.. hehehehe ...the bearded freak from some far away place like germany or holland that moved to a small mountain village in the 1970's etc etc... definately not me... people like a good yarn.

Q#3 And do you feel bad about lying to your good friends?

no

Q#4 If anyone outside your home does know, how concerned do you get that your secret will get out to the wrong people?

i have trashed a whole grow due to leaks in the past... i know better these days.

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Q#1 Does absolutely No One (besides people you live with) know you grow?

My sisters and brothers know, They might come up to me and say, so hows the tomatoe plants coming this year,, lol they don't smoke but it goes with out saying that big sister does and loves her garden. As far as friends, I don't talk, I don't have a really really close friend anymore, if she was still here, yes I would talk to her.

Q#2 If so, how do you keep your good friends fooled?

If it is a casual friend I don't talk,,, don't have to don't want to...and like I said, my best friend is gone...

Q#3 And do you feel bad about lying to your good friends?

Wouldn't have to lie, just wouldn't talk about it and if they were very good friends, it would go with out saying that Deb is growing, After thirty five years they would know me...



Q#4 If anyone outside your home does know, how concerned do you get that your secret will get out to the wrong people?

If these people I talk about know, I would have no concernes,,,, Sometimes it's the people you live with that will back stab you,,, like a scorned ex, so be careful who you do live with

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...For this is an issue that has "nipped me on the bootie" of late.

In fact, even tho i am no longer mad about the thing that happened last month ...i am still wary as hell...for two cops-in-training now know that i grow.

No its not bad to trust people...but don't!

Hopefully in my case these two will have something better to do when they graduate...but, who knows. At the very least, i have , with my summer outdoor grow, felt very paranoid at times...all because I took the bait to "come clean with a friend" ...she then proceeded to tell her two (future) cop sons.I can only pray that they will become "cool" cops and somehow further the cause or we will go medical here or both... or i move...to California.


No more friends for me, thanks!
BeAware

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It would kinda suck having to be dodgy about it especially to hommies, since my place is usually the designated chill spot for smoking and all kinda other antics that take place...but the best policy is silence, especially with females, because they can be vindictive

tell no one. let it be a private joy. then share the rewards. discreetly of course.

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Right on, all of you, right on!

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I've been growing a long time.

In the beginning w/ no odor control it wasn't miuch of a secret. I had friends come over and instantly ask me where my grow was...etc... I actualy put 2 small plants in a closet once to show a few that wouldn't shut the f up about it all and kept asking "hows's the mega garden, dooooooood?".

At one point I showed them the LITTLE girls...barely budding...and told em..."if a get a 1/4 oz off each I'll be lucky".....so DON'T ask me later for bud 'cus there won't even be enough for me.

Once i got the filter....the story became "I got tired of f'in with it all...and I don't grow anymore. Wanna buy a light?"

Never felt badly about lying to em....mainly because MOST can't keep their mouths shut and ALL OF THEM expect FREE bud. Nope. Sorry. Ain't gonna happen.

now that I'm legal....more folks 'know' I grow my own...but not to what extent/etc.

ww

Hi There Windowpane,

Your story tells me i just had a much needed lesson in stealth which is part of the journey. Tho a "stoner" in youth, i just started growing Thisis year #7 for me...im sure this lesson learned will come up again...next time, ill be prepared!

...im with you...lying to friends is good for many reasons...i plan on doing quite a bit of that in the future..Like "I had to quit growing cause too many people know about it"....which is true.

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I'm on my second grow now... but almost done with it. In between the end of my first and the beginning of my second a very good friend of mine who i've known since before we were in school got hooked on heroin and got busted by the DEA... was actually on that DEA show on spike tv. He ratted out a bunch of people he knew to get a deal, I was not one of them thank god. The last I talked to him he asked if I was still growing and I told him I get rid of everything and all my equipment too because the risk was too high. I haven't talked to him since but trust he doesn't think I'm growing anymore. Just goes to show that some people, no matter how well you know them, will become rats just to avoid a little jail for they're own mistake. Now the only person that knows is my wife, since I grow for her, I don't indulge myself anymore.

trust no one!
loose lips sink ships.
keep it on a "need to know" basis.

I live in a town where we mostly see imported brick weed so fresh medical quality automatically brings the question, "Where did you get this?" so whats common helps with avoiding that question.

it would be very helpful to buy from street vendors to help strengthen the "I don't grow" story. how else could you have really good herb to smoke?

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I thought I'd toss this queston out for those who are caregivers or who think they may want to investigate obtaining such a designaton in the future.

I have 2 patients @ present. One is very happy just taking 1/3 oz per week and medicating...the other is a bit more...um..'inquisitive" and has recently asked me to teach them how to grow the plant.

I'm all for this...but I have a problem in that I've historically (in 20 years) only shown 2 other folks (not family) my space. Both of these folks are long-time friends who have gardens of thier own (we all grew illegally at one point in time...Shhhh)...and in my mind...have taken on as much "risk" on the whole as I have.

I wondered what/how others deal with things like this?

FWIW...I have decided that I am simply going to be honest and tell her that I'll show her how to grow if she buys the equip and sets up a space but that I am NOT going to open my gig up to anyone else...."legal' or not.

what'cha think? What do you do?

ww

sounds good to me thats fare. i would say the same thing.

Wife, Parents & Brother are the only people who know. I plan on keeping it that way forever.

Hi There

Glad to see this thread still going as i am still "processing" the situation that came up for me last month. There have been feelings of deep betrayal and paranoia because i never really knew the people even tho i thought i did.

Sometimes i still think i was set up and feel very angry...furious!
I hate to admit to myself and you what a schmuck i was.

This situation is a bit more screwed up cause it is not yet legal here (tho we are working on it!).

Yet its similar in that a person came to me a few years ago and said the "only bad thing they ever did was use cannabis" to which i said "That's not bad".

Next the person said they were on all kinds of 'script drugs and wanted to grow their own and get off of them and could i help them. I was hooked...always like to help...share the great knowledge i have been so lucky to have...with "such a good person".

Long story short..his wife lost it one night cause of her cop-in-training sons found his stash.

I never wanted her to know about me but there you go Loose Lips.

He said she was "cool" about cannabis. I always doubted this as she didnt use it but relied on perscription drugs for her ailments.

Her idea of diffusing the situation was dragging my name into the mix.
Creative, eh? She told the kid i was helping his dad grow med mj and isnt it great? Now dad is doing great!
Dont want him to get sick again.

Only thing he ( the friend i was trying to help ) didn't tell me this had occured.

So for months i would go over there, whenever he asked, and i'd tell him my experience which i learned the hard way about what was going on in his garden.

The truth finally came out...the kids were snooping and spying on me...evesdropping every chance they get...like cops.

They only reason these people finally told me about it was because she didn't want me to do or say anything that would tip the "kids" off!. The kids are in their early 20's and slightly uptight. CREEPY!

Before this, i had funny feelings but gave my "friends" the benefit of the doubt...i trusted that they were good people.

Today i see these people as they really are, unstable and untrustworthy.
No one else does as these people appear to be "Mr and Mrs Perfect" to the outside world.
All i know is if they screw up, they will try to blame me....drag me into their problems.

Now it is clear...not everyone thinks as we do.

Needless to say i am using every encounter with them to communicate that "too many people know now" and i have to shut down.

I considered shutting down but the beauties are in full bloom and finishing soon.

I love the idea of pretending to use street vendors or offering to sell them my equipment to strengthen the idea i have quit cause the truth is i have quit ...ever trying to help them again!

Thanks for i don't feel so alone about this issue now.

"LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS!!!"

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if it was me in this case... and it is not because my grow will be for personal use when I start one... I would only show them how to grow in their own garden and never mine. one time from setup to harvest then just verbal advice from then on out. if they need visuals then there is an INTERNET full of picture's and video's that you could teach them to find for themselves... just don't use yours... keep the learning on a safe level with out compromising your situation. I would bet you could find all you need right on this wonderful site!

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Q#1 Does absolutely No One (besides people you live with) know you grow?
I have some family and a few friends that know. But that won't happen again. I was excited and showed them off a few times.

Q#2 If so, how do you keep your good friends fooled?
I don't ever have company over. and when I do I keep them from one side of the house.

Q#3 And do you feel bad about lying to your good friends?
No I regret not lying to more.

Q#4 If anyone outside your home does know, how concerned do you get that your secret will get out to the wrong people?
6/10. I'm worried but not enough to do anything about it.

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