although superthrive has always been mentioned on GP from time to time...it seems to have become very popular by a number of growers.


I always feel a pull towards two poles when it comes to nutes

1. spend as little as possible because it's all basically the same beyond the label and price
2. lavish those plants....if you hear its good buy it no matter what it costs

superthrive seems to be one of those things I am unsure of
I wonder if there is any other evidence than those test that can be easily explained by people wanting it to be great and skewing the objectivity of their impressions

tell me how and why this stuff works....what is in it that is so special

or

reassure me that it is just one more triumph of commercialism and no more effective than the wrinkle creams that are sold by the millions

Well im usuing it right now and ill have to get back to you in a couple days, but i have been usuing about half a teaspoon per gallon, and i think there is a difference. it defenitly hasnt been long enough only about 5 days. im gonna give it a week and let u know.

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all that I can find in it is about o.1 % vitamin B1 and o.o5% napthyl acetic acid a plant homrome, what am I missing? this is similar to many rooting agents?

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here is a quasi scientific study one person did to see for themself


Superthrive or Superjive
The question of the value of Superthrive as a miracle tonic for plants is often bandied about in horticultural circles. Several years ago, after reading claims that range from "I put it on and my plant, which had never bloomed, was in full bloom the next day" to "It was dead - I put Superthrive on it and the next day it was alive and beautiful, growing better than it ever had before", I decided to find out for myself. If you look for information on the net, you’ll find the manufacturer’s claims and anecdotal observations, totally lacking in anything that resembles anything like a control. Though my experiments were far from scientific, I tried to keep some loose controls in place so that I could make a fair judgment of its value, based my own observations. Here is what I did, what I found, and the conclusions I made about my use of Superthrive.
On four separate occasions, I took multiple cuttings from the same plant. The plant materials I used were: Ficus benjamina, (a tropical weeping fig) Luna apiculata (Peruvian myrtle), Chaenorrhinum minus (a dwarf snapdragon), and an unknown variety of Coleus. In each instance, I prepared cuttings from the same plant and inserted them in a very fast, sterile soil. Half of the cuttings were soaked in a Superthrive solution of approximately 1/2 tsp per gallon of water. The other half of the cuttings were watered in with water. In subsequent waterings, I would water the "Superthrive batch" of cuttings with a solution of 10 drops per gallon and the others with water. The same fertilizer regimen was followed on both groups of cuttings. In all four instances, the cuttings that I used Superthrive on rooted first. For this reason, it follows that they would naturally exhibit better development, though I could see no difference in vitality, once rooted. I can also say that a slightly higher percentage f cuttings rooted that were treated to the Superthrive treatment. I suspect that is directly related to the effects of the auxin in Superthrive hastening root initiation before potential vascular connections were destroyed by rot causing organisms.
In particular, something I looked for because of my affinity for compact branching in plants was branch (stem) extension. Though the cuttings treated with Superthrive rooted sooner, they exhibited the same amount of branch extension. In other words, internode length was approximately equal.
As a second part to each of my "experiments", I divided the group of cuttings that had not been treated with Superthrive into two groups. One of the groups remained on the water only program, while the other group was treated to a 10 drop per gallon solution of Superthrive. Again, the fertilizer regimen was the same for both groups. By summer’s end, I could detect no difference in bio-mass or vitality between the two groups of plants.
Since I replicated the above in four different trials, using four different plant materials, I’m confident in drawing some conclusions as they apply to me and my growing habits or abilities. First, based on my observations, I have concluded that Superthrive holds value for me as a rooting aid, or stimulant if you prefer. I regularly soak the soil, usually overnight, of my newly root-pruned and usually bare-rooted repots in a solution of 1/2 tsp Superthrive per gallon of water. Second, and also based on my observations, I don’t bother with its use at any time other than at repotting. No evidence was accumulated through the 4 trials to convince me that Superthrive was of any value as a "tonic" for plants with roots that were beyond the initiation or recovery stage.
The first ingredient listed as beneficial on the Superthrive label is vitamin B-1 (or thiamine). Growing plants are able to synthesize their own vitamin B-1 as do many of the fungi and bacteria having relationships with plant roots, so it's extremely doubtful that vitamin B-1 could be deficient in soils or that a growing plant could exhibit a vitamin B-1 deficiency.
Some will note that I used more of the product than suggested on the container. I wanted to see if any unwanted effects surfaced as well as trying to be sure there was ample opportunity for clear delineation between the groups. I suspect that if a more dilute solution was used, the difference between groups would have been less clear. It might be worth noting that since the product contains the growth regulator (hormone) auxin, its overuse can cause defoliation, at least in dicots. The broad-leaf weed killer Weed-B-Gone and the infamous Agent Orange, a defoliant that saw widespread use in Viet Nam, are little more than synthetic auxin. Al Fassezke

Hey Scott,

This person's experience seemed to show that Superthrive makes a good rooting agent, and not much else. I would suspect that treatment for treatment the cost of Superthrive would probably just about equal the cost of rooting powder or gel. In other words, no real benefit at all. Then again, there are many people who swear by Fox Farm nutrients, and I have only had bad luck with that stuff.

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I use it constantly and have never experienced any problems. I would say that my garden would not have been the same without it. Just my thought. It does help as a rooting agent.

The packaging is so glitzy. . .it just shouts out "snakeoil". I have a bottle of it, but the cap is stuck. ;)

jangel pointed out to me at one point that it is not to be used the last 2 weeks of flowering (the flush stage), because it has some compounds in it that will give your harvest a bad taste. plus, the plant doesnt really need any root growth/stimulation that far into maturation.

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im not sure... im using it cause i recieved it as a gift and its part of the 'recipe' im using.. but i wouldnt go out and buy it... on my clones it might be the reason they are still alive.. but i guess its one of those things youll never really know. i dont think theres all that much difference with or without it

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I used it for a couple of years. I quit using it about a year ago. It didn't hurt anything while using it. But, not using it hasn't hurt anything, either. Maybe it isn't "snake oil", but, it sure isn't the miracle it has been touted to be.

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i used it for transplanting. It seemed to help prevent shock. The next time i'm thinking of using it once a week up to the point of 12/12. I have the smallest bottle since i wasn't sure of it. The lady working at me said that it's way better than the B1 vitamin bottle for transplanting. When i told her i was transplanting MJ she said one cap per G. The cap size is small, so it's a few drops. I keep in mind to start weak then progress. IMO i wouldn't go over 1/4 strength. This bad boy is strong.

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I was always under the impression that Superthrive was used to aid rooting, help against shock and jus to give run down plants a boost. Its not supposed to be used constantly. I think the benefits are then lost. Instead of Superthrive I was recommended Hesi SuperVit as you do use this all the way through. It contains 25 vits and aminos.Plant active vital elements. It stimulates the production of growth and flowering hormones. Use 1 drop per gallon of water. Lasts ages. Can be used in foliar as well. Wouldnt grow without it now. I did a little test by using it on some plants and not others. The ones that got it just looked so much better. Greener, fuller more erect. The others jus looked tired and droopy. No vitality. Thats my 2pence worth. Again, anothet product I would recommend. Nearly all the products I use were 1st recommended to me by experienced growers. Ive nearly got the list down to the essential super nutes and supplements. Once Ive done that, then Ill jus buy the ones I KNOW will grow the stickiest,smelliest bud around! SuperVit is on the list. Actually all the Hesi products Ive used are wicked. Soil and coco. Havent tried their Hydro nutes tho. Check there site out. H E S I * P L A N T E N V O E D I N G Do you get Hesi nutes on that side of the pond?

Her is the SuperVit. There is some goodarticles on their site dedicated to growing.

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One thing folks, Superthrive has Urea in it so should not be used in flower. Urea inhibits flowering. (Quote from StinkyAttic~Lab rat and grower extra-ordinaire)

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Urea. It also doesnt show up on CF/EC/PPM meters very well if I remember rightly. Why do companies use it wen there are much better alternitives around?

It is a stabilizer and preservative.
Also used in dyes to spred colour and make it stay.

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I used it one new evergreen trees with no help except empting my wallet

When I was a dirt farmer(outdoors) I used it during germination, seedling and transplant shock as well as during periods of drought,heat stress,wind stress, or just plain sick looking.Never used it in veg or flowering unless problems stated above arose.It seemed to make them (bounce back)quicker than others that I didn't use it on,if they did at all.REVIVER AND ACTIVATER I believe it says right on the bottle.Going indoors now, and was wondering if it clogged pumps,drip feed, aero etc?????Thanks. P.S. That dude with the experiments,WICKED SMART.Great thread.One for the ages.

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ive researched hydro alot, and to be completely honest the only brand ive never read of problems with is general hydroponics.

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