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Remember this is how I take my cuttings for my reasons.


Notes: make cuts on a 45 degree angle to increase the surface area of exposed stem where roots will begin to form.

I also sometimes gently shave the outside layer of the stem off at the bottom of the cutting to expose more of the stem to areas where roots can form.


Use rubbing alcohol to disinfect your scissors.

Use a heating pad for faster results.

Yes i know it is common to cut BELOW the node about a half inch, I cut it just above, so that the node can continue to grow from that point. Im more concerned about keeping this donor plant in good condition for later flowering.
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Awsome tutorial.Thank you Hobo.
The little snip underwater trick is golden.One question,What is the benifit of the rockwool.Having to ph and think makes my head hurt.It there a benifit over soil?
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i use the rockwool cubes, because i can decide to use the clone in soil, or in in hydro.
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The little snip underwater trick is golden.One question,What is the benifit of the rockwool.Having to ph and think makes my head hurt.It there a benifit over soil?
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THANKS! hahahaha i know i have skinny arms, but im just trying to tone up my whole body, know what i mean? just toned muscle everywhere.
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Great job man i think we need to sticky this and or throw it in the FAQ too
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Excellent piece Hobo, very cool and a helpful tutorial too!
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Hahaha hobo, great great vid.. just you let you know his voice IS HILARIOUS in this vid., if you knew him in real life.. i couldn't stop laughing the whole vid.. but great job cabbage, 10-1 to the max.

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Super fantastic tute my man!

But hey as a side note I dont wanna hear you giveing Video any crap abuot his kitchen! You need to clean up that basement! LOL!!!!!!!

You got my vote for the Tute of the month! (Sorry I dont have a vote!)
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hahaha that attic is a disaster area, but the cleared out space is very neat and tidy hehehehehe.

I got some more VIDS COMIN... with some shameless green lightnin plugs.
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Q; Hobo...I see in the video that you are cutting the clones just ABOVE the node, but I had always thought you were supposed to cut about 14" to 1/2" BELOW the node.

Why the change, or am I wrong to start with?

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i know what you mean, so that you have that area of the node to turn into places for roots to form. But like im saying i want the plant to recover as fast as possible, and the growth will continue right at the node where i cut it off. It will still by all means root, possibly not as fast or effective, but the priority is revolved around the plant im taking the cutting from, because it isnt a devoted mother plant, it is only a doner that i wish to flower later.

This is how I take clones.

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Q; Hobo...I see in the video that you are cutting the clones just ABOVE the node, but I had always thought you were supposed to cut about 14" to 1/2" BELOW the node.

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Well Hobo you have set a new benchmark for GP tutes - excellent and just think how many clones will exist in the future because of all the people that will learn from your video - I agree with fred - tut of of the month goes to you by far
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I learned a lot from this post. Not only from the content in Hobo's video (thanks Hobo) but the Q&A was very good as well.
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Great tutorial, Hobo.

I have just one suggestion, though. The voice frequency is somewhat low, for my old ears. I could understand most, but I really had to listen closely. But then, I can't hear worth a s*it, anyway. All in all, a very well done piece. I'll be looking for more of these from you. Keep it up.
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