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Deb-HAS-grn · #1 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 06:28 PM

I have always had this love and enjoyed marijuana with all of it's goodness for us and mother earth. I have always strongly known marijuana needed and should be legal,, Good Lord it isn't addicting, it doesn't lead you to harder drugs, and we all know the rest it is or isn't.

I was talking to my son a few months ago about my love of growing and my new place on the internet, Green Passion, I also was saying to him, As I get older my desire to need to see pot legalized grows stronger and stronger. His words responding to that should not of surprised me as I have thought the same myself, but at the time when he said to me, Mom I am sorry to say this but I honestly don't think they will legalize marijuana for many many years to come. It kind of hit me hard hearing those words and thinking I may never see the day that I would be legal to grow and smoke as I please. And I am not talking about the first much needed legalization of medical marijuana in all countries, I am talking about the freedom to do as I please when I please when it comes to weed.

I do pray often that all this struggling for all to be free, Free from fear of being arrested, I pray I get to see that day and experience a long awaited dream come true, for at least a few years and many much more hopefulluy,, And I don't want the government telling me how much or how often I can grow, I don't want the government controlling and taxing any of us the way it looks like it may come to if it comes legal at all..

What do some of you think, Do you ever worry that you may never see the joy of pot being legal. Do you think it will be twenty maybe thirty years, or better yet, will it be ten years or five years when I will be able to proudly walk in my back yard and admire, with out worry, Be able to admire my grow garden with out looking over my shoulder and do it without being told how I have to do it.......

4evergreen · #2 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 07:29 PM

Amen, I wish it with all my heart. Everyday when I have to go to my grow, I feel like a "criminal", hiding and taking security steps for growing a plant!!! A plant that was here before any goverment in our planet! But sooner or later those laws will not be around, and I hope we all could enjoy it
Good luck

jangel · #3 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 07:44 PM

I here ya, Deb. And this is what I do to make it sooner. If we ALL, EVERYDAMN ONE OF US, That does or has or believes we should be able to do so stands up and says it, then we have to win, from sheer numbers. This is why we try so hard to join all sites together, and each be part of the whole. Then we indead would be unstopable.

In this past short time, I have seen the injustice made clearer every day, with people running into hiding because of LEO. Some fearing and many actully losing their freedom, their families, their homes for making a choice that should not be questioned. having to hide away in fear in case their life giving medicine be arbritarily taken away by the feds. It is wrong, and the more we each do, the further along this path we are on we all progress, it can only get better. Bit by bit, like an ant can move a mountain.

Peace

Deb-HAS-grn · #4 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jangel

I here ya, Deb. And this is what I do to make it sooner. If we ALL, EVERYDAMN ONE OF US, That does or has or believes we should be able to do so stands up and says it, then we have to win, from sheer numbers. This is why we try so hard to join all sites together, and each be part of the whole. Then we indead would be unstopable.

In this past short time, I have seen the injustice made clearer every day, with people running into hiding because of LEO. Some fearing and many actully losing their freedom, their families, their homes for making a choice that should not be questioned. having to hide away in fear in case their life giving medicine be arbritarily taken away by the feds. It is wrong, and the more we each do, the further along this path we are on we all progress, it can only get better. Bit by bit, like an ant can move a mountain.

Peace

Thank you Jangel, Were and how do I start so I can be of some help, even if it's just a little help I will at least have done something for what I so believe in. Like you said, If Every Dam One Of Us Stands Up And Says Something, well being legal just might happen for us, and isn't that what we old hippies want to have is our freedom. Yes I come here each day, I read and try to educate myself when I am able too, but I know I should be doing something, just maybe need a little guidence. Not to put a damper on what needs to happen But, I was thinking, Do you think some people are just too causious or too afraid to speack up and be heard for fear that there might be a chance they will be watched, Like if your noticed, do we have to watch over our shoulder even more then we do now....You watch, I'm going to learn from you Jangel, Your a go getter, I like that

justanotherbozo · #5 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 08:32 PM

we proved how powerful we are when we collectively boycotted Kellogs!

when we hang together there is no stopping us!

united we stand, divided we fall!

jangel · #6 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deb-HAS-grn

Thank you Jangel, Were and how do I start so I can be of some help, even if it's just a little help I will at least have done something for what I so believe in. Like you said, If Every Dam One Of Us Stands Up And Says Something, well being legal just might happen for us, and isn't that what we old hippies want to have is our freedom. Yes I come here each day, I read and try to educate myself when I am able too, but I know I should be doing something, just maybe need a little guidence. Not to put a damper on what needs to happen But, I was thinking, Do you think some people are just too causious or too afraid to speack up and be heard for fear that there might be a chance they will be watched, Like if your noticed, do we have to watch over our shoulder even more then we do now....You watch, I'm going to learn from you Jangel, Your a go getter, I like that

Deb, I just said this to a new member here today. Contact your local NORMYL. Check out what is happening in your state. i know Maine just got the okay for med mj patiants. But there are no discpensaries or compassion centers. Check out what is happening to help get this done. Right your congress man. Do a google search Medical Marijuana in your area and see what comes up. Contact other like minded people in your area, and then you will see where your efforts can best be focused. If everyone did that where they lived, it is as if we are all reaching out our arms and linking them together. This is how we all make our voice heard.

peace

Deb-HAS-grn · #7 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 09:15 PM

Thank you Jangel,, I'll keep you posted on my travels here in Maine

Mr.Moonbiscuit · #8 (**permalink**) 05-24-2009, 01:33 AM

ok im about to lay down my general belief on this. if we all stand forward and become someone to the like of ed rosenthal or the BC three, or any of those proud people, then we would be a force to be reckoned with. there is a quote im rather fond of, in an army of cowards you dont have to step forward to be a hero, everyone else just has to step back. now am i calling anyone a coward? no, im just saying we are all afraid, afraid that our love of this plant will end up with us in jail, or worse shot by some prejudiced cop. but i say we need to start this ball rolling down a much steeper slope than what it is.

Lacy · #9 (**permalink**) 05-24-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jangel

I here ya, Deb. And this is what I do to make it sooner. If we ALL, EVERYDAMN ONE OF US, That does or has or believes we should be able to do so stands up and says it, then we have to win, from sheer numbers. This is why we try so hard to join all sites together, and each be part of the whole. Then we indead would be unstopable.

In this past short time, I have seen the injustice made clearer every day, with people running into hiding because of LEO. Some fearing and many actully losing their freedom, their families, their homes for making a choice that should not be questioned. having to hide away in fear in case their life giving medicine be arbritarily taken away by the feds. It is wrong, and the more we each do, the further along this path we are on we all progress, it can only get better. Bit by bit, like an ant can move a mountain.

Peace

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!
Together we stand
Divided we fall

I actually think collectively we ARE making a difference. Of course we are. How could we not be?
Look at all the provinces and states and countries that are making progress with marijuana. There are more advocate groups and organizations popping up everywhere. Laws are being changed.
look at the bill that was just passed letting Canadians on the MMAR program, a choice of where they can purchase their meds from. For the longest time it was monopolized by ONE company and it took a GROUP of people, LIKE US, to rally together to make necessary changes and these WERE, in fact made.

Look at all the new states that are becoming or considering MMJ part of their plan.
Changes ARE being made.

I understand completely where you are coming from because for the 30 or more years that i have indulged, I have always considered myself a criminal and at times felt the need to hang my head in shame. No longer do I feel this way.

I now look back in history and make an assessment of all the things we have been led to believe, as a society and then later found out otherwise.
There are so many examples that when I think of all the mistakes we have made collectively as a society, that I no longer can go with the flow with blibers on any longer. I refuse to let society dictate what they feel is right for me because I CANNOT trust their motivation
Now I question all laws and my rights as a citizen and weigh out the pros and cons and why the decision was even made.
Then I make my own decision as to whether it benefits me or them(the government). When i do this I always come up with the same answer.
Its all about money. There would be far too much money lost from the people that govern us and right down the line. THEY are fearful that their power will be taken away. I even question whether there isn't a cure for cancer and it is just being kept from us because there would be too much money to be lost wiht all the people who benefit having it exist still.
I even question WAR itself because although there are so many that claim they are against it but the fact is it is created all for money.
When you start questioning even these two things alone, it kind of takes the trust away.

This very topic I am passionate about because I also think of all the people who just want to indulge in a PLANT for whatever reason and yet they are condemned by society. I also find it a HUGE injustice and often wonder just how strong we would be if on one day of the month we all ralleyed together and caused waves within our own governments, just to let them know how many of us are out there.

I do not trust governments at ALL as they have continuously proven that they DO NOT have our best interests at heart and never really have. It always boils down to MONEY!!!!

One thing that i do suggest to ALL people who choose to grow their own meds, is to try and make an effort to become legalized in any way possible, even if that is only having an MMJ card from a compassion club.
If you write letters to people that can help, make calls about your rights, doctors appointments as why you use it etc ,......then be sure to log all of this down and keep it in an area close by your grow

If you can prove that you are at least making an effort to improve the situation, then if anything were to happen down the road, like getting busted, then you at least have something which will be taken in consideration when it goes to court.

Its just food for thought and something that when i heard about it, gave me some comfort and peace of mind

We are NOT WRONG in choosing what we feel is right for us!

I wish you all the best in whatever decisions you choose

Deb-HAS-grn · #10 (**permalink**) 05-24-2009, 08:50 AM

Wonderfully said sweetpea

eltone · #11 (**permalink**) 05-24-2009, 04:59 PM

I ask myself the same question everyday. Thanks for posting it Deb-Has-grn. I remember when I was 18-20 years old saying to myself, "Marijuana should be legal but I will never see it in my lifetime

." But look at the progress we have made, look at the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case of San Diego & San Bernadino Counties vs State of California saying Federal drug laws overide State Laws. Even though it is Obvious President Obama is backsliding on his promises i.e. No More Federal Raids etc., we are making progress in a forward motion. There are still many "Reefer Madness" babies in both the U.S. and Canadian governments. As they die off and are replaced we will see Marijuana loose its stigma (I hope and pray.) To me it is only logical that this will happen. People are questioning what type of government prohibits scientific and medical research into any medication? Only one kind a "FACIST" government. As more states legalize Medical Marijuana and decriminalize marijuana possession they will demand a 'hands-off' from the feds. This will evolve, albeit over time, into Federally legalized Cannabis. This of course is only my dream, in reality I hope I live long enough just to see Medical Marijuana legal in the State of Iowa, USA, so I'm not risking arrest, prosecution, imprisonment, forfeiture of property, money and government benefits and housing simply by using the scientifically and medically proven safest medication, "Marijuana" for the control of chronic nausea and vomiting. I also believe someday there will be a prescription pain pill containg both an opiate and Psychoactive THC. The combination of opiates and marijuana work better than opiates alone for many patients. We should have this choice. My 19 year old son, and most of his peers, are Pro-Cannabis and less government into our private lives. Label it what you want but if you look at the progress we have made in the last 40 years it is rather amazing. Double that i.e. 40 years into the future, and I think marijuana will be totally legal and non-controversial. The people of that day will question, "What were they thinking?" regarding Marijuana Prohibition. I mean it just can't get worse, except I don't have another 40 years,

!!! Case In Point: Many of you are legally allowed to grow your own, I am not. Many of you have legal access to quality medical grade marijuana at fairly resonable prices, I do not. So count you blessing Deb-HAS-grn while continuing to push for legal changes to marijuana laws. As jangel and others have pointed out, "United We Stand." That's power... Peace...

jangel · #12 (**permalink**) 05-24-2009, 05:52 PM

That puts it right where we all live, Eltone. Very well said and you are a voice of hope in this hole we sometimes feel we are in. Yes, we ARE doing it.... We WILL do it. Just like an ant moves a mountain, one grain of sand at a time....

Peace

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Originally Posted by eltone

I ask myself the same question everyday. Thanks for posting it Deb-Has-grn. I remember when I was 18-20 years old saying to myself, "Marijuana should be legal but I will never see it in my lifetime

." But look at the progress we have made, look at the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case of San Diego & San Bernadino Counties vs State of California saying Federal drug laws overide State Laws. Even though it is Obvious President Obama is backsliding on his promises i.e. No More Federal Raids etc., we are making progress in a forward motion. There are still many "Reefer Madness" babies in both the U.S. and Canadian governments. As they die off and are replaced we will see Marijuana loose its stigma (I hope and pray.) To me it is only logical that this will happen. People are questioning what type of government prohibits scientific and medical research into any medication? Only one kind a "FACIST" government. As more states legalize Medical Marijuana and decriminalize marijuana possession they will demand a 'hands-off' from the feds. This will evolve, albeit over time, into Federally legalized Cannabis. This of course is only my dream, in reality I hope I live long enough just to see Medical Marijuana legal in the State of Iowa, USA, so I'm not risking arrest, prosecution, imprisonment, forfeiture of property, money and government benefits and housing simply by using the scientifically and medically proven safest medication, "Marijuana" for the control of chronic nausea and vomiting. I also believe someday there will be a prescription pain pill containg both an opiate and Psychoactive THC. The combination of opiates and marijuana work better than opiates alone for many patients. We should have this choice. My 19 year old son, and most of his peers, are Pro-Cannabis and less government into our private lives. Label it what you want but if you look at the progress we have made in the last 40 years it is rather amazing. Double that i.e. 40 years into the future, and I think marijuana will be totally legal and non-controversial. The people of that day will question, "What were they thinking?" regarding Marijuana Prohibition. I mean it just can't get worse, except I don't have another 40 years,

!!! Case In Point: Many of you are legally allowed to grow your own, I am not. Many of you have legal access to quality medical grade marijuana at fairly resonable prices, I do not. So count you blessing Deb-HAS-grn while continuing to push for legal changes to marijuana laws. As jangel and others have pointed out, "United We Stand." That's power... Peace...

Deb-HAS-grn · #13 (**permalink**) 05-24-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eltone

I also believe someday there will be a prescription pain pill containg both an opiate and Psychoactive THC. The combination of opiates and marijuana work better than opiates alone for many patients. We should have this choice.

This kind of prescription for pain is what is needed,, I too do not have the mmj medical card, I medicate myself and grow illegally so I can have relief from my medical problems... Even though I live in a state that has passed the medical marijuana law I can not get certified untill I make a choice. I live with terrible pain each day and also live with bi-polar. Marijuana is of great help to me but there are times that if used alone with out my pain pills it just doesn't work well enough. I am held back from having the proper medications because, if I was to have marijuana as my medication for pain and depressions, I will no longer be allowed to have the pain pills that are prescribed to now as a back up to work with marijuana if needed, or vice versa. So right now I am having to deside what might be best for me, one or the other, not one with a little of the other, just plain one. Lord I wish there was such prescription pain pill also containing THC, and you know, there is no good reason why there is not in this day and age with all the knoledge they have about the advantages to using marijuana.

I sure hope it isn't another 40 years before our right to grow and use marijuana is legal,, I feel such sadness when thinking there might be that awful chance that I don't see that day.. But then again I also do more of the positive thinking and picturing the day that the day will come for us all. The day will be of joy and cellerbration. It will feel like a war has just ended, When I vission that day it feels warm inside of me, When that day does come, and man it will come for me and for you, On that day we will cry for the battle is over, we will laugh and we will hug for it was all of us in one way or the other who helped make this come true, It just feels so calm on that day.....

Thank you for stopping by and adding to the thread,, I hope your state laws change at least for the medical perposes.