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07-03-2008, 11:48 PM
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High friends I have been offline since June 10 but am now back up and running  . During my time offline I have heard a rumor that there are signs on I-35 which runs from the Tex-Mex border to the U.S./Canada border right through the heart of the midwest saying, "IF YOU THINK IT'S DRY NOW, WAIT UNTIL JULY. Compliaments of your DEA"  DEA Spank! I live in central Iowa and pot prices have shot through the roof and supply has decreased this past month. Two months ago you could get good schwag weed for $250 for a QP. Now it's $360 for the same product, if you can find it. Medical grade cannabis is intermittently available at $370 an ounce (this price has stayed the same but availability is down.) So has anybody else seen these signs along I-35? Or is it BS? I do know they busted a semi load of pot in the south section of the Des Moines area (the mob section) near the end of May/early June and ever since then availabilty has become scarce and price has increased. BUMMER, although I pay the price and BITCH!!!  What can I do? After all I'm Dedicated To Cannabis  . Besides that, off the record, my Dr, his nurse and my pharmacist encourage me to use marijuana to control the constant nausea from gastroparesis. If I get busted the first offense is a misdemeanor, after that they watch you, bust you and its prison time. So if I ever get busted, I'm 55 and been smoking weed since I was 18 and never been caught yet, but if I get busted after my first offense it's Oregon here I come  . But that scares me that my time will come, oh well I have to smoke and contemplate, err, I mean forget that. Peace to all and Keep On Token...
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07-04-2008, 07:58 AM
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Hey Eltone,Glad you are back online with us.The weather knock you out up there.Way back in the early 80's in fla. the sheriff of jacksonville put up a sign in the meduim of I-95 saying {If you look like you have drugs we are going to stop you.There were 15 or 20 cop cars sitting there.It was right at a over pass and a cop was the look out.There was cars turning around in the meduim and heading the other way.They all got stop and some went to jail.Sheriff McMillen,in that counry and city the cops there are trigger happy.They shoot you and say you looked like you were going for a gun.We need to police the police and put them in the places they want to put us.Put the shoe on the other foot.The DEA will find away to wiggle around that suit.But it's good that it gets all the attention we can give.Bring it to the poeple for to see how underhanded they really are.Good post. Peace
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07-04-2008, 08:56 AM
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High Tokecrazy, glad to be back. The whole reason I was off line was due to the flooding we had in Iowa mid-June. I was living in the basement of a house and had to move quickly, two days after I moved they came to all apts warning of a voluntary evacuation of where I just moved to. Since I live on the 12th floor I stayed, luckily nothing happened. Fortunatly loss was very minor for me. What a rednecked, police state, bunch of shit these cops like to run regarding your Florida story. I had 2 undercover cops pull right behind my car (broadside) when I parked in the parking lot where I lived. I am caucasion and they saw me give my friend, who is black, some money outside the local convience store. They then followed me home blocked my car got out and told me to assume the position. They looked all of 18, so I replied, "What's the problem...sonny." Wrong thing to say, it resulted only in a verbal warning and a pat down. "Hey, you missed this pocket," I said knowing it was empty and I was clean. They even asked me if I thought it was wrong to use illicit drugs? Gee did he mean the Dr. prescibed 120 mgs of Methadone I was on at that time, or was he refferring to my weed? To me opiates are way more dangerous than pot, even though I love them. This is day 31 for me of no methadone, it's still rough but I thank God for marijuana it really helps the readjustment. I just finished a two year detox from it. It is not over even when you go down only 2 mgs a week to "0." Then your body begins a 3 month readjustment to not having any opiates in it after being used to having 80-120 mgs a day of methadone for over ten years. I know many people who left the methadone clinic and went to a Dr who would give them there methadone plus 225 Diuadid a month. Not for me no way. I am glad to be opium free and cannabis ready. Peace... 
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07-04-2008, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by eltone What a rednecked, police state, bunch of shit these cops like to run regarding your Florida story. I had 2 undercover cops pull right behind my car (broadside) when I parked in the parking lot where I lived. I am caucasion and they saw me give my friend, who is black, some money outside the local convience store. They then followed me home blocked my car got out and told me to assume the position. They looked all of 18, so I replied, "What's the problem...sonny." Wrong thing to say, it resulted only in a verbal warning and a pat down. "Hey, you missed this pocket," I said knowing it was empty and I was clean. They even asked me if I thought it was wrong to use illicit drugs? Gee did he mean the Dr. prescibed 120 mgs of Methadone I was on at that time, or was he refferring to my weed? To me opiates are way more dangerous than pot, even though I love them. This is day 31 for me of no methadone, it's still rough but I thank God for marijuana it really helps the readjustment. I just finished a two year detox from it. It is not over even when you go down only 2 mgs a week to "0." Then your body begins a 3 month readjustment to not having any opiates in it after being used to having 80-120 mgs a day of methadone for over ten years. I know many people who left the methadone clinic and went to a Dr who would give them there methadone plus 225 Diuadid a month. Not for me no way. I am glad to be opium free and cannabis ready. Peace...   | eh, i know those actions too, actually happened to me few on a single business trip to Florida, been now 2 or 3 years since this oddish trip but still. first one was after i bought some burgers for some guys hanging out in front of an McD where i stopped for a snack (i never give cash to someone that is panhandling but if someone asks me for something to eat and i have a dime left i buy them something as a burger) and that been the reason for the first stop, even before getting out of the lot - ever seen 20 hobos taking it on 2 cops? been a quick stop, next i asked some guy if he had some small change, needed it for something and besides that it was clear what his attention was at that corner i been to lazy to walk another 50 yards to the next store and asked this guy which bought me a full pat down by some under cover LEOs. and my last two on that trip i had coming from miami on the 75 heading over tampa to atlanta - the first one was right there where you pass that ft myers airport and they had been following someone else in a similar SUV, put me in the pan for like 6 hours until they finally figured that i have no caribbean looks to me what however but it killed my appointment in tempa and right north of tampa i been stop once more and guess what - same damn screw up and another few hours stuck missing my flight in atlanta. thing i learned on that trip: DEA is too dumb to note down a licens plate and figure that a (fat) cuban guy can't turn himself into a fit caucasian while driving north on the I-75
but on the other hand, i have had the same thing in other places as well, asking for directions in DC or after a short chat with a black teen in NYC or walking thru Calgary at night - they almost tasered me that night, freakin RCMP  end of that encounter was that they took me to my motel that night "as it would be to unsafe to walk thru Calgary at night" felt damn save till they showed up with that taser thing - i been living in that city and it is as safe as any other city of that size...
Which comes to the same conclusion you guys came to: We have a general problem with unmonitored powers given to individuals that not fit to handle such power responsible on their own.
The question is now how we can balance this power given to cops? that unchecked powers lead to a brutalization of the police force is not just known since the introduction of tasers or pepper spray, additional bureaucracy backfires as well in additional aggression against citizens and keeps cops of the street if needed. And it is not as trivial as just pushing the use of the sec. amendment either since cops see in every citizen a potential criminal that they only have to convict - totally missing that this the job of 12 volunteering citizens - and the danger that they may run into an armed citizen that done nothing wrong and may mistake them for criminals as cops have the tendency to march into your place like german storm troopers without double checking nor announcement or identifying (besides that also a robber can yell "cops").
Writing this here brings me to only these conclusion: - we have to stop gloryfying bad police practices as you can see in every cop movie Hollywood puts out - just watching shows as CSI with your mind still alert and the constitution at the ready you will find so many fundamental infringements of rights granted to everyone that it should make you sick (and if so don't even watch NYPD blue or similar follow up BS)
- change training of LEOs - lets go back to the idea of: "To Serve and Protect"
- military style tactics are for TAC teams members only, can be only be deployed with written approval of a judge in addition to a search warrant signed by a second judge. same thing goes for weaponry as taser or similar.
- encouragement to use the sec. amendment and co-operation between LEO and citizens as free training classes for citizens
- mandatory constitution and attitude test for all LEO annually
- teaching tactics that breach constitutional rights has to be come illegal and should be draconicly punished (in general not a friend of "minimum sentences" but on this issue they proved to be effective and we should not tolerated misconduct by people that volunteered to serve the community, this is no excuse for such behavior - either they serve us or serve time)
they have to learn that we are not their "customers" and we have to regain slowly trust in them once their system has been cleared of "black sheep".
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07-04-2008, 06:54 PM
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Great response green_nobody. I totally agree with all your points. Yeah racial profiling goes on BIG TIME in Des Mones, Iowa. Sounds like its the same elsewhere, too.  We just have to keep up the fight..Peace brother... 
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07-04-2008, 07:16 PM
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What eltone said. Very wise assessment GN. If only common sense and justice prevailed in reality.
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07-04-2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by green_nobody eh, i know those actions too, actually happened to me few on a single business trip to Florida, been now 2 or 3 years since this oddish trip but still. first one was after i bought some burgers for some guys hanging out in front of an McD where i stopped for a snack (i never give cash to someone that is panhandling but if someone asks me for something to eat and i have a dime left i buy them something as a burger) and that been the reason for the first stop, even before getting out of the lot - ever seen 20 hobos taking it on 2 cops? been a quick stop, next i asked some guy if he had some small change, needed it for something and besides that it was clear what his attention was at that corner i been to lazy to walk another 50 yards to the next store and asked this guy which bought me a full pat down by some under cover LEOs. and my last two on that trip i had coming from miami on the 75 heading over tampa to atlanta - the first one was right there where you pass that ft myers airport and they had been following someone else in a similar SUV, put me in the pan for like 6 hours until they finally figured that i have no caribbean looks to me what however but it killed my appointment in tempa and right north of tampa i been stop once more and guess what - same damn screw up and another few hours stuck missing my flight in atlanta. thing i learned on that trip: DEA is too dumb to note down a licens plate and figure that a (fat) cuban guy can't turn himself into a fit caucasian while driving north on the I-75
but on the other hand, i have had the same thing in other places as well, asking for directions in DC or after a short chat with a black teen in NYC or walking thru Calgary at night - they almost tasered me that night, freakin RCMP  end of that encounter was that they took me to my motel that night "as it would be to unsafe to walk thru Calgary at night" felt damn save till they showed up with that taser thing - i been living in that city and it is as safe as any other city of that size...
Which comes to the same conclusion you guys came to: We have a general problem with unmonitored powers given to individuals that not fit to handle such power responsible on their own.
The question is now how we can balance this power given to cops? that unchecked powers lead to a brutalization of the police force is not just known since the introduction of tasers or pepper spray, additional bureaucracy backfires as well in additional aggression against citizens and keeps cops of the street if needed. And it is not as trivial as just pushing the use of the sec. amendment either since cops see in every citizen a potential criminal that they only have to convict - totally missing that this the job of 12 volunteering citizens - and the danger that they may run into an armed citizen that done nothing wrong and may mistake them for criminals as cops have the tendency to march into your place like german storm troopers without double checking nor announcement or identifying (besides that also a robber can yell "cops").
Writing this here brings me to only these conclusion: - we have to stop gloryfying bad police practices as you can see in every cop movie Hollywood puts out - just watching shows as CSI with your mind still alert and the constitution at the ready you will find so many fundamental infringements of rights granted to everyone that it should make you sick (and if so don't even watch NYPD blue or similar follow up BS)
- change training of LEOs - lets go back to the idea of: "To Serve and Protect"
- military style tactics are for TAC teams members only, can be only be deployed with written approval of a judge in addition to a search warrant signed by a second judge. same thing goes for weaponry as taser or similar.
- encouragement to use the sec. amendment and co-operation between LEO and citizens as free training classes for citizens
- mandatory constitution and attitude test for all LEO annually
- teaching tactics that breach constitutional rights has to be come illegal and should be draconicly punished (in general not a friend of "minimum sentences" but on this issue they proved to be effective and we should not tolerated misconduct by people that volunteered to serve the community, this is no excuse for such behavior - either they serve us or serve time)
they have to learn that we are not their "customers" and we have to regain slowly trust in them once their system has been cleared of "black sheep". | I nominate Green_Nobody for president!! | 
07-04-2008, 09:49 PM
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He's got my vote.
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07-05-2008, 12:26 AM
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07-05-2008, 12:53 AM
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Hi eltone - welcome back! I don't live in that area, so I don't really know too much about what the DEA is wasting there time doing these days.
I read through your post and thought I might suggest trying a Vaporizer if you haven't already. You can get a decent one for a fairly affordable price these days. I like how I can stretch my cannabis supply a little further in addition the the benefits to the lungs. They are also great for hotel rooms and other places where you want to stay a bit more low key from a smoke perspective.. since you are not burning the cannabis, you don't have to worry about the smell as much. I am personally responsible for converting at least 5 people over to "the vape"
Cooking with cannabis is always fun too! The "THC Pills" are really low key too and give a nice soothing mellow high.. Highly recommended to all that have not tried them. THC Pills
Anyway.. enjoy your time at greenpassion! Lot's of great knowledgeable people here. But I think you already know that...
GreenGoblin
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07-05-2008, 01:05 AM
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Thanks GreenGoblin. I do want a vaporizor real bad. I've heard the Herbalaire 2.1 is good for $250. Which is juat a bit pricey for me, but only if there is one as comparable in quality and cheaper. I need to be very 'Low-Profile' for I live in a subsidized housing apartment. We made brownies with half an ounce of goos schwag by first cooking the cannabis in a half cup of cooking oil, straing that and then adding it to the brownies. It worked great. But 1000 THC pills for only $7??? I would be afraid it was phoney  . Let me know if it is for real I WANT SOME!!! Peace... 
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07-05-2008, 01:49 AM
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I would definitly recommend a vape.. Very low key from a smell perspective, but you still want to keep it out of sight. Although, I have passed mine off as a Soldering Iron before when someone noticed it.  The one I have is a vaporbrothers. It ran me around $110 when I bought it about three years ago or so and came with a grinder. I haven't had an issue with it yet, and as a matter of fact.. it is on loan to a friend that is considering getting one. I need to get it back!! Oh.. and on the grinder note.. those a really nice for rolling joints or grinding some cannabis for running through a kief box.
And for clarification, the empty 00 pills only run $7 for a bag of 1000. They are ridiculously cheap, but only gelatin.. so I wouldn't expect them to be too costly. I cook some cannabis, or even the left over "duff" from the vape with some coconut oil in a crockpot and then put the oil extract into those gel caps. It is another way of enjoying the fine herb. I like to make the analogy that a golfer has may clubs in his bag, and chooses one for a particular shot. Much like the golfer, I have many bongs, bowls, bats, vapes, capsules, etc depending on what green I am playing on..
Best of luck..
GreenGoblin
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07-05-2008, 08:36 AM
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Thanks for clueing me in on both which vape you use (I'll be able to get mine in about 1 or 2 months) and that the capsules are empty. That's a great tip for me, the capsules, as I am on Marinol 5mg 2 times a day now to control nausea and vomiting. I usually just cook about a half ounce in a half a cup of oil, strain that and add the THC oil to the brownies. Much more effective than Marinol at any dose!!! Someday the whole nation will be free to grow and use cannabis privately and freely like our forefathers did.  Peace...
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