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Old 07-16-2008, 06:37 PM
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Ok for those of you know who know about my transplant, what is going on here???

Looked at the Abuse guide, but no luck yet, gotta get some sleep before work tonight and trying to figure it out before it gets to bad..

Each staggering tip curling and looking a little darker than the rest..:(

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Hi Sock,

It is a common trait with some of the strains I grow. I got all freaked out about it too at first, but the plants in your pics look otherwise healthy, same as mine did. I've had it occur with different nutes and assorted strains, and all the plants grew and flowered out just fine. Maybe a slight discoloration on those leaf edges on your plant, but that is really being hyper-picky about it.
Not to worry over at this point.

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don't worry about that little discoloration, just as iso said you are too worried yet.

if this is getting worse flush the soil and check the pH of the run off as well as of the water you use to flush the soil, if you blessed with a EC meter you should also monitor the PPM as the jags a slowly turning up which is usually caused by two things: heat stress or too high EC value - so the soil is too saturated with fertilizer.
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Thanks Iso and Greeny, well I am being alittle over sensitive, but I cant help it..LoL I suppose I have OCD, when I really want to do something, I go all out with 110% effort and I dont give up till I accomplish my goal...

Just got home and the light cycle just started, lower leaves very saggy, but I bet it is do the the transplant and massive watering. I am sure the subject is a little freaked out, heck I would be too if I was snatched up out of my comfy but crappy home and given a better home with all new foods to eat..LoL

Yes I finally got around to testing out some various water, My tap water is way bad in the PH dept, somewhere around 8.2, but have access to bottle water that is running 6.2, so nothing but the 6.2, from here on in, Chlorine is good.. Yes I do need to check the run off and see what I am getting. Dont have access to a PPM meter...:( Not till I buy one..

Thanks need to get some sleep,

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Socks, give it a couple of days before you start freaking out. She is just adjusting to her new home. It is natural. You took a lot of old soil out so she will sulk for a bit. Relax. You subject will be fine.
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Socks, give it a couple of days before you start freaking out. She is just adjusting to her new home. It is natural. You took a lot of old soil out so she will sulk for a bit. Relax. You subject will be fine.
Right-o Chap-ett...

I dont like seeing her sad, think I need to get her back in the 3gal home.. waiting for some roots to pop through the bottom.. Next transplant should not be as harsh, keeping same soil in root ball just adding more of that yummy goodness into a bigger home... She will be happy..

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Hey socks, CHILL man. don't you dare touch that baby for at least a couple of weeks. LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!

She is probably contiplating a nervous breakdown just getting your vibes man. She is fine. Just let her be. It is okay if she loses a couple of leaves. Just means she will grow new ones. and they are not even 5 fingered yet. Just let it be.

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Hey socks, CHILL man. don't you dare touch that baby for at least a couple of weeks. LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!

She is probably contiplating a nervous breakdown just getting your vibes man. She is fine. Just let her be. It is okay if she loses a couple of leaves. Just means she will grow new ones. and they are not even 5 fingered yet. Just let it be.

Peace out man! And go smoke some herbage.
I'm cool Jangel... No worries letting her rest, what you mean no 5 fingers, heck she had 5 weeks ago, got some big fans putting out 7,9 and even 11 digits...

Edges getting really brown today on established big fans, newer shoots still looking good to ok range... I thought I went really easy on the bone meal and guano, starting to look more and more like nute burn/too much Nitrogen, But am chilling on it. Raised lights a bit to get the heat off or her.

Her are a few of todays pics..

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I'm cool Jangel... No worries letting her rest, what you mean no 5 fingers, heck she had 5 weeks ago, got some big fans putting out 7,9 and even 11 digits...

Edges getting really brown today on established big fans, newer shoots still looking good to ok range... I thought I went really easy on the bone meal and guano, starting to look more and more like nute burn/too much Nitrogen, But am chilling on it. Raised lights a bit to get the heat off or her.

Her are a few of todays pics..

Thanks for all the help,

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sock,

Si agree with Jangel...she'll be fine. I would definately back-off on the bat guano till she's healthy again. You might even need to give her a good leaching in a few days once she settles in, as I can see the start of a low level nute burn on those edges now.

Let her get her bearings in that new pot, then we'll see about the other issue. JMHO

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Si agree with Jangel...she'll be fine. I would definately back-off on the bat guano till she's healthy again. You might even need to give her a good leaching in a few days once she settles in, as I can see the start of a low level nute burn on those edges now.

Let her get her bearings in that new pot, then we'll see about the other issue. JMHO

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Si' Senior, I did a little leaching/flush yesterday morning, once I determined that my tap water that had been sitting out for days is too high in PH, so ran some 6.2 through her. But like all have said gotta give her a few days to get adjusted in her new surroundings..

As far as the bone meal and Guano, I would have sworn that I was on the cautious side, 2-3 table spoons of each in mix of 40/60 perlite/hyponex..

Keeping my eye on her...

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Hey Soc, all guano is not created equal...depending on the brand/batch they may have different nutrient levels and different release times...I believe Videoman uses superswell bat guano with good consistent results...I assume the same goes for bone meal but I never used the stuff
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Hey Soc, all guano is not created equal...depending on the brand/batch they may have different nutrient levels and different release times...I believe Videoman uses superswell bat guano with good consistent results...I assume the same goes for bone meal but I never used the stuff

I'm running the FoxFarms high Phosphurs bat guano. Will give it a go.. If she starts getting progressivly worse in the next few days, think I will have to do something, but I can wait. Nothing life threatning at this point...

"Time keeps on ticking, ticking, ticking into the future"....

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Socks, what does the package say on it as far as adding it to soil? How much per gallon?
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Socks, what does the package say on it as far as adding it to soil? How much per gallon?

The Guano is 0-4-0, says for transplant preperation use 2tbs per gallon, established plants 1-2 ft high, use 1/2 cup for top feeding.

I ran a little under 2tbs..

Bone meal is 1-11-0 and directions vauge, says 2tbs per bulb, or like 3 1/2 cups per 50sq ft. for Veggis, 2'x25'. I ran about 2tbs.

That is alot of Nitrogen, even at 2tbs each...:(

Apparently shes not liking it and I assume a bit too much on the N, she is getting really bad. I really think I should do something. Definately gonna loose some leaf's and will need to prune them.. Maybe a flush..

I'm trying to be patient, but it's like watching a friend in the hospital get progressively worse on a daily basis..

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Sock I have no idea why this is happening. Do you have just plain soil and perlite left? If so just put her in that and feed from the top. It sound like it is a very sensitive type of plant. How much soil did you take off the roots? Did you damage the roots badly or just tickle the soil out?
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Ohh yes I have plenty of goddies left for more mixing up...

Yes I stripped all the old soil away...:( I know that is not the right thing to do however under the circumstances of having crap soil in the first place, I was under the impression that is what I needed to do, rid plant of all crap soil..

Yes I was very delicate with the roots, no root damage, just stripped her of all the other soil..

I dont think I have much to loose right now, gonna flush with good 6.2ph ease her out of the little container (keeping current 60/40, guano, bone, soil intack w/ roots), put back in 3 gal with only 60/40 mix and No Bone or Guano for now and give a few more days..

Hopefully adding the plain 60/40 to the current mix will lesson the harshness after flushing..

We will see..

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Peace. Sorry this is happening man. what can we do?
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Peace. Sorry this is happening man. what can we do?

Nada.. Just thanks for answering and helping with questions as they arise, It's all part of the learning curve. Got more bag seeds to work with if worse comes to worse..

Like we said before, it's all about the journey...

Let me go work on the patient...LoL..

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