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Old 01-17-2008, 04:20 PM
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Hey all,
The main cola of my plant is very large but it is not maturing at all. The other colas on the plant are producing lots of trichs and the pistils are turning color. The new foliage on the main cola is light green and doesnt look normal. The color of the rest of the plant is dark green. I had a maganese deficiency 2 weeks ago that showed first on the top cola, i remedied this by leeching the soil with 12 gallons of ph 6.0 water. I 8 weeks into flower. I will get a pic up soon. Please help!
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:25 PM
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Ya for sure get us a pic but here are some questions for you .
what kind of light do you use and how far from the plant
do you have good air circulation at all times
what is the current ph and you may need to do more then leech for a maganese deficiency like adding in some epsion salts or a cal\mag treatment.
also big factors in maturing are what do you feed and at what amount and temp and humidity . and pics will help greatly.
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hmm thats odd, usually its the other way around. did you do any pruning toward the top of the plant recently? That might focus more energy to the lower and outer buds, thats all i can think of... or maybe the part of the root system that feeds the top is damaged...?
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:36 PM
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Hope the picture is high res enough to determine anything from. I have a big fan that is just blowing on this plant alone. I stopped feeding ferts 5 days ago because I thought i would be harvesting in 2 weeks. I just feed her ph 7 h20 now. I was giving her ph 6-6.5 water because I read incorrectly that this was the optimal ph for nutrient uptake... not in soil though. I was feeding a bloom fert 3-12-4 with trace minerals. temp dips at nite to around 60 degrees and is aroung 68 during the day. This is the temp it has been at throughout flowering and this problem showed up just two weeks ago.

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Old 01-18-2008, 06:00 PM
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I just ran about 1.5 gallons of ph7 h20 thru the soil, collected runnoff and ph tested it. it was about 6.8-70, poor test resolution since im doing it with an idicator solution. So thats all good. Any other ideas anyone?
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Have you grown this strain before? What's it standard flower time (average) you have seen. From the leaves I am guessing a sativa strain? If so, maybe they take longer in flower?

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Hey ISO,
I have never grown mj before. This was bagseed. I do think it is a sativa. so you may be right about the longer flowering time. Still think it is weird that the top cola is the last to mature. After doing ALOT of reading on this site it seems that the top cola is the FIRST to mature. Is the light green coloring of the new growth indicitave of anything? The new leaves on the top cola dont go straight out like on the others, they are twisted and go in all sorts of willy nilly directions. hmmm...
Thanks for the help guys, im stumped.
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Hey ISO,
I have never grown mj before. This was bagseed. I do think it is a sativa. so you may be right about the longer flowering time. Still think it is weird that the top cola is the last to mature. After doing ALOT of reading on this site it seems that the top cola is the FIRST to mature. Is the light green coloring of the new growth indicitave of anything? The new leaves on the top cola dont go straight out like on the others, they are twisted and go in all sorts of willy nilly directions. hmmm...
Thanks for the help guys, im stumped.
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Sounds almost like you are talking about the "sugar leaves"?

From my limited experience the plant normally yellows up in the fan leaves when finishing flowering. I believe that is the plant pouring all it's energy into the flowering process, which is what we want. I don't make any heroic measures with nutes, etc. unless the plant has a long ways to go yet, otherwise I let the plant do what it does naturally and just help it along.

Oddly, I have a plant doing the same thing right now. A huge sativa/indica cross in a 10 gal. DWC tub. LARGE gal, too, with top cola only a few inches under the bottom of that 600W fixture...still, some of the side buds/colas are bigger and closer to harvest than the top.

Could it be something in the air???

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Most of the fan leaves are still nice and green. its just the new leaf growth on the top 2 inches of the main cola that are light green and strange looking.
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Most of the fan leaves are still nice and green. its just the new leaf growth on the top 2 inches of the main cola that are light green and strange looking.
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Those are the sugar leaves...let them be, as they become part of the bud as it grows over them, and they also can collect a load of trichs!

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Okie dokie. I wont do a damn thing. Thanks ISO.
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It sounds to me that the top of the plant is getting light poisoned. A friends outdoor plant did that because a porch light would hit the tops and not the lower branches.

Are you sure that your plants are getting 12 hours of complete darkness daily?
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Hmmm... that is something i need to double check. It is in a closet in my bedroom with sliding doors. there is a small crack where the door meets the jam. If light was getting thru it would hit alot of the plant and not just the top. BUT the lower portions of the plant on the interior are much more developed and normal. I will seal off all cracks and see if she improves. Thanks,
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On the ice plant i recently harvested.. the top was not the biggest, because i had topped the plant at flowering so i got 2 medium sized buds instead... some of the side buds like the top of the bottom branches, were the biggest and most crystal covered, the only difference was the pistols were more red than the ones on the other buds. I think this mostly has to do with top being the most ripe, but still more energy going into the side buds, because the plant was tied down on its side, allowing much more light to hit the inside buds.
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:20 AM
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Well framster you seem to be correct on this one. I sealed up the grow area from all light and the growth on the top cola is normalizing and maturing normally. Its amazing what just an eency weency bit of light can do to the MJ plant. Still... This damn sativa is taking forever to finish! Its gonna be HUGE when its done. Thanks again for all the help guys.
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