i have been having a lot of trouble over the past month my plants are slowly dying off at first i thought it was to much heat and not enough air flow but i corrected that problem well heres the specs i,m using distilled tap water phd to 6.0 after going through my soil i,m using pro mix stright up and i was starting bud but ran into this problem so 12/12 only lasted a week they are under a 250 metal halide i changed a lot of factors about 6 weeks ago they were only getting pure blend pro grow at 1/4 strength and were growing awsome under 150 watts of cfls well about 6 weeks ago i tried to put them into bud and started them on 1/4 strength pure blend pro bloom and put them under the 250 mh and there was high heat and low air flow the heat only lasted for a week and they were all droopy

anyways now theres lots of air flow the temps are around 75-80 still 1/4 strength bloom pure blend and run off ph of 6.0 i have 40 plants and this is happening to about 1/3 of them now but all 3 weeks ago the rest are healthy and happy

my guess is a N difficency because that is the only thing i have been unable to change due to a busy work schedule and no cash to buy nutes

so if you can help me please do so

also i have been growing this strain for 2 years now with out changing anything except the high heat this summer here are some pics of the sick and the unsick

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Dude I just had the same damm thing happen to me!!!!!!!! I grow in hydro but I just lost a third of my plants! I must have caught a fugus with High Temps. Check your dead plants, are the roots mushy and brown? You could have root rot. My temps got outta control and with hydro all feeding off a one tank it really Fooked me up.
Let me know what you think happened!

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BTW, Your plants are NOT N defficent

Are they root bound? Mine got kind of droopy and yellowed when they were root bound but greened up when i repotted them.

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Your leaves are showing exactly what my leaves were showing! You need to water with 30 ml of HO2O per gallon of water every time you water for the next week or so. I dont grow in dirt but thats the cure in hydro. I Feel ya man!
I run a very clean setup! But somehow I got this damm fungus! I have been growin for 3 or 4 yrs never have I had this problem! I have two rooms of 48 plants each! I lost 18 plants in one room and 23 plants in the other!!!!!!!! I am sooooo pist!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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wow i felt like a dumb ass for doing this to my plants but you had this problem too i don't feel so stupid, your one of the most impressive growers i,ve seen thanks a million and your right the roots are dark brown and mushy

Fred,

I've never had a fungus, but damn..doing all I can to get the humidity down in my rooms but still they are staying in the 60's% range for RH, that's with a DEhumidifer running 24/7. Nuthin else I can do...running MAX airflow over them though with 2 of the 16" oscillating fans running on them 24/7...gives 'em big strong stalks too! (turned your plant into a weight lifter..LOL! I've had up to 3 of the 1" sockets tied to the top trying to get it to lean over and it just stands itself back up along with the weights!

Kenn: What I saw in the one pic that I saw looked like a nute burn. Have these plants been flushed (I mean leached)? I would start by running about 3X the container size in water over them (3 gal pot they get 9 gal of pH'd water over them). Keep them in flwoer and on the 12/12 or they can get real screwed up, and no therapist will stop them from turning gay on you.

I have no problem with gay plants, but they need to declare themselves early in life so we can move them out of the room before we catch them trying to do the "dirty deed" on our other plants!

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May I also chime in here and say with soil, you get brown roots when they need repotting as well. But root rot could be the culprit. If they are already pot bound, then they have no where to go and the roots just rot. Take all the ones that are sick right out of there now, and repot the ones that are not sick in fresh soil, not from the soil you used last time as that could contain the fungus. and sterlize everything. Have you been watering from the top down or only from the bottoms? This can also be the problem. Good luck my friend.

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I think I figured out where I got it from. I switched to useing coco in mesh bucket lids. I mixed up a big batch of coco and perlite about 3 months ago and we have been using that but I think thats where the fungus started. That damm tub of coco sittin in the dark it was wet and must have hatched this damm desiease!

You wanna talk about being a dumb ASS Thats ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

so I am dumping H2O2 in the tanks like every day trying to clear it up, Just hopein to save what I can.

Shit dude I didnt mean to hijack your thread.

Why WHY is is it so damm hard to grow a Fookin WEED????????????/

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Oh yeah back to why I was posting, Your leaves will show all sorts of things like nute burn etc. Its due to the root problems. IMHO.

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for once you got a pH problem here as you feed at only 6.0 and around 6.0 nitrogen lock-out starts - this pH is okay in hydro but for soil/peat based grow of MJ it is too low.


so get the pH up again to 6.5 and you will see that they grow again - the once done damage will stay of cause and damaged leaves may still die of completely. you might also want to leach your plans following ISO's Soil Leaching Tutorial and in the mean time foliar feed your babies - but only during the dark cycle or the drops will focus the light into millions of hot spots that will burn the already damaged foliage!! and use a light solution, a really light solution!!

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Fred, this doesn't work on soil - you use HO2O in your hydro to either kill off bacteria, algae, small pests that is attacking the roots or to "burn" off the dead material from damaged roots to stop the root and allow new roots to grow again.

in soil it will simply kill all the useful bacteria and creepers off and probably damage the entire root system - or why i wouldn't try this

besides, fungus loves weakened plants, it is probably the collective root damage that started the mess in your grow and once this is out you also get the fungus back under control.

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its definitely not nute burn i,ve barely been feeding them anything only pureblend at 1/5 to 1/4 strength at this stage 4 months ago they were taking full strength plus 1/4 i,m pretty sure it was a combination of root rot and overwatering and high heat all three have been fixed and everything is well except the damn plants are 3 feet tall ,the plant only spent 3-4 days with 12/12 they have been under 24 hrs of light with very little water feedings thats one thing i like about cfls there not as much radiant heat drying out the soil ,it all started because i switched then from 150 watts of cfl to 400hps and at the same time i put them on 12/12 and repoted to soil that had been sitting around in a damp room for 4 months and it probably had some funky things going on it didn't smell very good

i switched them back under 150 wt cfls and let the soil go really dry for 2 weeks i
watered only when the pots became very light but not to the point of droppy leaves and i,m going to switch back to the hps for 2 weeks then back to 12/12 i,m in desperate need of some good bud and 9 weeks is seems so far away.




anyways thank you everybody for your help me and my plants thank you

i.ll post pics later tonight

i water between 5.6-6.5ph but try to stay in the 5.9 area if possible, and I do soil and no problems *knock on wood*

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well i have an update everything cleared up i thought but it was only temporary they are starting to show the same problems again but its really weired some of the fan leaves new and old are yellowing and browning my ph is 6.0 i,m giving them the same nutes i,ve been using for years the thing that is driving me nuts is that 95 out of a 100 leaves show nothing nice and dark green no spots no yellowing or browning but on the same plants there are leaves that look like this pic i cut off 2 of these leaves and the stem to the leaf is feels HOLLOW still green and moist but if i squeeze the stem is squishes very easily

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME

im going to the grow store in the morning and getting supplies i am willing to try anything that i have not already tried, so please advise me what to do

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They look like just normally dieing off leaves. Old leaves. If most of them are fine and they are not root bound, I wouldn't worry too much. Just take the dead ones off. Maybe they got a bit light burnt or squashd. and feed and care for as normal.

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well i have an update all is well i got nice healthy plants growing nice buds if requested i,ll post pics

Hey Kenn! Consider this a request for pics!! Glad they are doing well. Glad it was nothing major.

How are you Kenn? I miss you around here sweetie. Nice to see you popping in.

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