Changed pots on seedlings now there all but one laying on there sides and it looks like the stems are sucked in...any help here would be great

WOW 9 ppl viewed and yet no help..plz guys I NEED HELP!!!!!!

Maybe no one replied because were all still working on coffee, and dont talk too much til after a few more cups!

No honestly, you give so little to go on.

Please try to remember, although you see the problem, we have not, do you have pictures?

Why did you transplant?

Do you have proper drainage in both your soil, and in the growpots too?

Did you use the same soil recipe, or did you change?

Did you over water them?

pics and info in a few mins..just bought new batteries for my camera..pics in a min or 2

I hope you answer my questions along with the pics, that'll buy me some time to grab some more coffee.

Okay heres the story. I purchased seeds from Dr. Chronic. Well in the mean time while waiting I decided to give some bag seeds a test run so I didnt waste my money on the ones i paid for. Well I couldnt get to the store for soil and the seeds all germ'd so I used soil from one of my flowe beds outside. Well they were all planted (10) and 6 sprouted. Well I finally got to run to wal-mart and I picked up some Scotts perfect mix potting soil and some 10-10-10 fert, So I decided to repot the seedlings in the new soil. What I think happened was the soil had fert in it and I added more which was too much or the shock of good soil in general. The soil I used from outside was sterilized ( I read somewhere to microwave it ), so I'm sure the wasn't much in it nute/fert wise and it was a shock..hell i dont know..sorry about the pics this camera isn't worth a $hit. The ones on the left have new soil with w/o and added fert.

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I dont need the pics, had you provided this info in your previous post, we could have answered the problem. Besides your pics are out of focus.

A few points, while microwaving soil does indeed sterilize it, this also kills all the good stuff in the soil. I wouldnt microwave the soil, if it were me.
After microwaving it, you dont have soil anymore....it's just dirt.

Those first set of leaves on your babies are special, they will support the plant with nourishment for the first 10 days or so. Most people say no nutes for 3 weeks, assuming you are growing in soil, and not dirt. Between those leaves, and a good soil, you should be okay for 3 weeks.
I honestly start adding nutes at about day 12 in SMALL doses.

Adding nutes this early is your problem.
Only water them....no nutes!
You didnt say how good your drainage is?

You mention buying soil and nutes, what about pearlite?

Do you have proper holes in your growpot? You need to poke some hole in the bottom of those pots.

If you buy nothing else.....grab some pearlite, and add about 40% perlite to your soil.
Also, clear containers are bad for the plants roots. Light on roots = bad.

Having said all this, I think you have a recipe for disaster. I like your usage of the red cups. Try to plan on re-potting every 2 weeks or so during vegging, to a slightly larger size. This will help promote good root growth, but dont even bother if you cant add the pearlite. This is a must!
If your broke, add some small pebbles or something to aid in drainage.
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Okay I have (or should have) plenty of drainage, I've drilled holes in the bottoms of all the containers.

Should I have bought plain potting soil and perlite, instead of this "perfect mix". It's supposed to be all in one. I know it has perlite in it. It looks like good soil (but what do I know?).

I used the clear containers because they were 5 for 1.74 and everywhere I go tells me what I'm looking for is a seasonal item, so I'm going to have to do all my shopping online.

Why were they doing better in "dirt" than soil? They were doing good in dirt, so I figured if they were doing good in dirt than they'd love soil..guess if it aint broke don't fix it

videoman mentioned the probable reason for the plants struggles. Fertilizing too early can have a bad impact on plants. When you fed them, did you use full strength nutes? I have always read to start with quarter or at most half, and it has worked great for me.

You want your pearlite to be about 40% of the mix, read yr label and see how much pearlite is in it, if its not 40%...add some more. This is gonna help yr roots grow healthy.....alot.

I dont know much about scotts soil...I dont use it, sorry.
I like "coast of maine" organic soil as a starting point.

Put some duct tape around those containers to block out light.

Your plants were doing better in the "dirt" because they didnt need any nutes yet. They were living off the beginner set of leaves called cotyledons, they contain a supply and production of root growth hormones used early in life, when they die you know your seedling has established itself.

When you transplanted, you placed them into soil, plus you gave them nutes....they overdosed!

You can try getting a jug of water, and pour it thru the grow pot, til it pours out the bottom. This will wash off the nutes. Just be gentle.

Ok ran water through them, how long can they stay laid over before they dry out? and other than them drying up how will I know that there not gonna bounce back?

Agreed get more pearlite and no nutes at the begining thank god it was a test run with bag seeds man .

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yeah tell me about it. i got 3 more ready for take-2 in case I have to do it again. I found a nursery few miles down the road so gonna pick up some perlite today....now i know i dont need it yet but what are some good (brands) to use? All I know and see is miracle grow, but hear mixed things about it. Should I take this multi-purpose 10-10-10 fert and spread it outside or will it come in handy later?

I'm not sure why you think you dont need perlite yet?
I dont believe brand makes any difference on pearlite either.

So far as nutrients are concerned, foxfarm is very good, expecially for a new grower.
The 3-pack will take you from seed to harvest, and than some.

lol was talking about nutes..i know i need perlite. thanks for the fox farm..i'll give it a shot

Try www.htgsupply.com for the nutes.

aww they look so young ! zue gota a wong way ta go! try to stand them bak up, they should stand up, they need to feel tall, lol, keep them warm, push fluffy soil around them, after this dont mess wif em, if they are growing, the less you fiddle wif em the better, I know its hard, I have to keep my hands from pettin em!

my girls are friggin 3 feet tall, ready freddies

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First time growers frequently:
Overwater their medium based plants. When you pot your plant, judge its weight dry by hefting. Then, water the plant thoroughly, until water runs through the drain holes. Heft it again. When your pot feels as nearly as light as it did dry, its time to water again.
Overfeed their plants. As MrSoul says, beginners rarely under do anything. When all else fails, follow the directions on the fertilizer bottle. [Editor's note: dont follow GH's instructions! Use @ 1/4 their recommended strength, or follow recipes in the FAQ]

Overanalyze their grow. A first grow is like a first born child: you pay attention to every little thing that happens. Further, you worry at the first sign something may be wrong. Pay attention to what happens in your grow, but do not try and find a remedy for every yellow leaf. Frequently, the remedy of flushing your medium causes more problems than it solves. Be responsive when things go wrong, but be conservative in your remedies.

Overspend on grow supplies. New growers frequently commit themselves to unrealistic and expensive first grows. It is much more efficient to learn to grow and then invest in high end equipment rather than the other way around. Most experienced growers don't have room for all of the grow paraphernalia they aren't using. As you will see throughout this FAQ: K-I-S-S.

Overpost. Try the search engine first. Chances are good that any question you can think of has been asked and answered before.

Talk about their grow. Don't tell anybody that does not have to know. How can you expect anybody else to keep a secret that you cannot.

Part 2:
Contributed by: Bush_Grower

1. Don't Overwater
Overwatering kills marijuana plants. Water once the top few inches of the soil dries out.
Hydroponics is harder to over-water than soil, due to the abundance of water roots.

2. Don't Tell People
Why? They will only be jealous. People love to feel important and that is why they will tell other people; because others will listen to them.
Keep it to yourself.

3. Touch/kill Germinating Seeds
It can take up to 10 days for a seed to sprout. The paper towel method is not recommended because you must handle the seeds when transferring them from the paper towel to your growing medium.

4. Grow seeds from seeded marijuana (hermaphrodite seeds)
Unless you are prepared for possible disappointments don’t use "unknown" seeds. This is why people buy seeds from seedbanks.
Self-seeding MJ is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males.

5. Don't Over-fertilize
Fertilize after first 2 spiked leaves appear.
Start with 25% of recommended label strengths and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, Leach and Spray with pure water for several days!
Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water! (Soil)
A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents excess salt buildup, leaf and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur.
As a precaution, leach the plants with lots of pure water every 2-4 weeks.

6. Don't Under-fertilize
Under-fertilizing is less common. If you prefer to give the plant ‘just enough nutrients’, use a organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.

7. Don't Start with Clones
Start with seeds. Bugs are a pain, as are plant diseases. Many growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years. Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases &/or pests.

8. Don't Provide A Bad Environment
Always provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air indoors should be replaced every 5-10 minutes.
Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85' Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems.

9. Don't Harvest Too Early
25% of the weight will form in the last 2 weeks. Begin flushing with 100% pH’d water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.
*NOTE: Outdoors if security is a factor make your own call on when to sacrifice the fields. Also take buds continuously in case of thieves.

Common questions:
Q. Can marijuana grow in a northern climate?
Marijuana plants can grow anywhere corn can grow. All it needs is three growing months - seed to harvest. 2 if started indoors!

Q. Why do I have to buy seeds? Why can't I use my own that I picked from my own stash?
Most people desire, and want to be guaranteed, certain characteristics in their mature female plants. The seeds from any weed will all grow into something different. This is unprofitable and inefficient. As opposed to knowing the single set of requirements for your entire crop, you must provide a different set of requirements for each of your plants.

Q. What is better for a new grower - hydroponics or soil?
I believe the all around "better", more convenient setup is soil. Hydro makes plants grow faster, but won't make your buds more potent than soil. Hydro should be attempted after you have a few successful soil crops under your belt.
If you are starting from seed and growing for personal, soil is the practical growing medium. If the crop is started with clones and is commercial, a hydroponics setup is more practical.

Q. Why are my seedlings stretching?
Low light conditions. They also need a gentle wind. Plants will also stretch when subjected to conditions of high humidity.

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