next grow i will introduce banana peels early in flower to induce early flowering. also read people use bananas with seeds to have more female to male ratio. i need to get me some of this stuff in a bottle. i heard florel is it but don't know. is dutch master reverse the same thing? well im off to study this chemical for plants.

check it out:
Ethylene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Interesting, for sure...but after reading the Wikli info I don't think I want to spray it on my plants. Stuff is used in making gasoline? Nope, not growing any NY Diesel...

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ISO, it also helps fruit ripen and is the natural secretion of apples. That is why you do not store apples and bananas together as they will make each other go bad. If you want tomatoes to ripen faster, just put an apple in the bag with them, and the ethelene from the apples ripens the tomatoes.

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I used ethylene glycol as an anti freeze agent to treat the plant water in the winter. Nothing to mess with.

why, didn't it work for you? any trouble due to this treatment or what happened?

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well it is pretty hormone active substance, used in a tonne of chemical processes as in the production of plastics, used as cracker agent, to low and short-time anesthetic use by dentists and it been used also as chemical warfare agent to gas out bunker complexes or tunnel systems but that is a tricky business... and to ripe fruits that harvested premature for transport stability - so the possibility that it will work on cannabis is more then likely.

besides, at 170°K (~ -160°F) it turns into a gas at atmospheric pressure - so you won't spray a liquid at your plant but release a gas into your grow room

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are we conflating ethylene glycol with the ethylene given off by apples and such? or are they the same substance?

I know the ethylene gas from apples in harmless in the concentrations normally encountered...and of course as others have said, useful for quickening the ripening process.

(sung to the tune of one bad apple don't spoil the hole bunch girl) old song by the jackson 5 or the osmond bros.

i think i am just going to use banana peels. there is a product out called Florel which is ment for plants but i dont know how well it is.

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banana peels? what they do? cause ive been feeding my plants banana peels for almost two months now... the worms love the stuff... i place em ontop of te soil for a week so the fruitflies get to em and break em down a bit and the dry and then i bury them just under the soil.. the worms do the rest and in two weeks theres nothing left..

but i didnt know they were beneficial in any special way... just what exactly do they do and why??

this is about the 15th banana peel im working into the dirt in this pot

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I don't know about worms in pots of pot! The plants look great Ileso, just it goes against what I know. Tell me about it.

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My 2 cents is worms = loose soil/worm castings...I've done it years ago indoors (before my new found education) without problems. I don't think I need them now, perlite. As for peels of fruit...all I got was mold/insects. I've heard of putting fruit in a paper bag/close it then setting in the grow room to make rippening gas and not attract bugs as bad. I don't think the effort would make harvest come any sooner. Just me though.

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what exactly do you want to know? the worms live in there, i mean soil... is sort of like a living organism... it recieves nutrients in the form of organic matter. bugs breaki it down, and finally the worms break that down even more into worm castings which in efect is plant food because the plants can finally get the nutrients from these. plus worms break up the soil. so i got myself some earthworms, and now every new pot i fill i transfre some of the little ones. i goad them up with food and move some. i then 'feed' the soil with peels and fruit or leaves. i collect the leaves that yellow from the plants and when i have a nice hand ful i put that ontop of the soil and keep it moist.. the worms do the rest. ive noticed recently that i have tiny roots up to one or two millimeters from total exposure. my soil actually rumbles with all sorts of things, centipedes, worms, fruitflies, gnats, and lots and lots of spiders. i think thats why the spidermights (my ones are mighty) havent managed to migrate from one plant to the other. it should be almost impossible to get past the spiders. they are tiny and really really fast and come out and run all over the place everytime i water them.

dunno really, the soil looks really healthy cause its an balanced ecosystem. isnt that normal? i dunno really, its the first time im not growing in the bush, i treat them the same as i would in the open only on a smaller scale. and now cause im always on the look out for mightymites i notice all the others, but the worm were intentional, the other just make the pot their home afterwards...

dont know how that would work indoors... from the description above it doesnt sound very nice, probably cause the fruit decaying in an enclosed environment intensifies the smell and the flies will really get out of hand.. i find the fly population in my pots is about normal for outdoors plus the smell is pretty subtle. still smells like old banana peel up close though ;)

and outdoors it doesnt mold up, it just sort of dries out before i bury it and the worms dont give it time to mold

Hey Ileso, if it is working for you, keep it up. just so you know, the wild life remains outside just like in ausieland with the mice, they should of stayed outside of Australia. Same thing with a closed environment, all checks and balances. Without the natural bug preditors your plants would be in trouble inside. It works outside cause of them. Not inside. Also, Ileso, if you are bringing even a slip for cloning inside, first treat it so the bugs don't come in with it. Check out these vids especailly the last one on cloning as he mentions washing them in Ivory snow to kill the spider mights before bringing them inside. Hope it helps you sweetie.

http://www.greenpassion.org/f54/refr...-cab-wow-7118/

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yea may be having the fruit out may not be a good idea after all.


ileso so you use worms in your pots indoor? sounds interesting.

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mice! and foxes, rabits, pigs, south east asian water buffalo, cats, dogs, bugs, birds, camels, canetoads.. just to name a few!!
while im waiting for the GP seeds ive 4 the CHURCH and one Afghan#1 on the way waiting for my light that im buying tomorrow
but yeh thats my biggest preocupation at the moment.. hmm.
havent any ivory snow but do you reckon dipping them in a neem oil salution would do?