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Default Low Light germination and vegetation ?

I came across a few items which might offer people an alternative to expensive lighting in their incubator & veg chambers.

Sure, we can germ and veg our plants along under a few CFL bulbs, eventually growing to a proper size for flowering in a couple of months.
What if you could increase your yield, quadruple your growing size in a few weeks rather than months? Would it be worth the small investment of time and money ?

Here are two ideas that you could assemble and take advantage of the technology behind the concepts to increase your germ rate and seedling growth.



Sun Stik from Silicon Sensors, Inc.,
Dept. TMEN, Highway 18 East,
Dodgeville, Wisconsin 53533.
One Sun Stik costs $7.50 (plus $1.50 shipping and handling)
PHOTOVOLTAIC ROOT STIMULATION

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"The root stimulator works best on plants that aren't exposed to much sunlight.
Those studies I mentioned before showed that foliage exposed to bright sunlight receives little or no benefit from root stimulation.
Besides perking up light-starved houseplants, what practical applications might a PV root stimulator have? Well, for one, tests have shown that seeds placed within an electric field sprout more quickly and are more prolific. So if you used a solar disk on your starts, instead of having—say—only 50% of your seeds germinate, you could expect a success rate of 75% or better.
Second, root stimulation works particularly well on seedlings, so a solar cell could be able to help you germinate and raise your starts indoors before the spring thaw comes.
A second idea/product is: ULTRASONIC PLANT STIMULATION

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The experiment continued for 28 days, the same period of time used in the photovoltaic root stimulation tests. By the end of the test, the plants treated with ultrasonic vibrations had grown an average of 87% taller than their control cousins. Repetitions of the experiment were run to confirm the initial results, and some of the later tests showed growth rate increases of as much as 150%!

It isn't exactly clear why ultrasound stimulates plant growth.
Evidence seems to support the theory that the sound acts as a catalyst, activating the production of plant hormones called auxins.
Have you seen advertisements for rodent-repelling machines?
You can build your own ultrasonic generator. It's not a difficult electronics project, and the device can be assembled for under $20 from parts available at a local Radio Shack store. The schematic (Fig. 3) shows the layout; the only other thing you'll need is a 12-volt power supply.



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You never know, these two concepts might just increase your productivity 150% percent.
If anyone does experiment with these two concepts, please post your results for others to read about.
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Is this stuff too scientific ?
If I am able, I will be trying these two extra additions on my future grows.
I'll be curious if anyone else gives it a try too.
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certainly looks intresting, can't say i consider myself a pioneer though, i'll leave this for the "Explorers" to test and then i'll jump on late if it works out.

I realize that this is a dumb question but would these work under HID lighting? florescent?
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certainly looks interesting, can't say i consider myself a pioneer though, I'll leave this for the "Explorers" to test and then I'll jump on late if it works out.

I realize that this is a dumb question but would these work under HID lighting? florescent?
Well, the Sun Stik is intended to supplement low-light growing which I believe would benefit those growing under CFL conditions. This may offer a better growth result while keeping energy costs and heat issues to a minimum.

Likewise, the ULTRASONIC PLANT STIMULATION is intended to benefit seedling growth (under low-light conditions) as well as increase vegetative growth rates.

So, to answer your question, both devices are meant to assist during the germination and veggie stages. From what I've seen, a majority of people start their plants out under low-cost CFL lighting.
I do not believe either of these devices would be of benefit under the higher powered light systems.
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Is this stuff too scientific ?
If I am able, I will be trying these two extra additions on my future grows.
I'll be curious if anyone else gives it a try too.
I see no direct links to them for purchase?
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I see no direct links to them for purchase?
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This is all I could find:

Sun Stik from Silicon Sensors, Inc.,
Dept. TMEN, Highway 18 East,
Dodgeville, Wisconsin 53533.
One Sun Stik costs $7.50 (plus $1.50 shipping and handling)

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... build your own ultrasonic generator. It's not a difficult electronics project, and the device can be assembled for under $20 from parts available at a local Radio Shack store. The schematic (Fig. 3)
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This is all I could find:

Sun Stik from Silicon Sensors, Inc.,
Dept. TMEN, Highway 18 East,
Dodgeville, Wisconsin 53533.
One Sun Stik costs $7.50 (plus $1.50 shipping and handling)

and;

... build your own ultrasonic generator. It's not a difficult electronics project, and the device can be assembled for under $20 from parts available at a local Radio Shack store. The schematic (Fig. 3)
Found the first one too but no link
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In the full article, @ PHOTOVOLTAIC ROOT STIMULATION it describes how you can also build one with parts found at Radio Shack.
It just may not have the pretty flower face ;>}

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Assemble your own solar generator from readily available parts from Radio Shack . . . . [simply attach electrodes to the two leads on the photovoltaic disk. If you do decide to build your own, make sure that the silicon cell is completely protected from moisture.]
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You know, I've been thinking about these two devices and their application for those who grow outdoors. Seeing as they are independent of an energy source, one could place these products out along their plants to offer assistance for those days when it is cloudy. Using the photovoltaic cell to power the high frequency emitter might offer protection from insects as well as those waskly wabbits & deer.

You could remove them once the plants begin to mature.
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