i know lately this is a recurring question. this si good
because it indicates that alot of us growers have tken the next step and are interested in creating our own mini breeding programs and creating our own fem seeds in the process. this is called evolution... hahaha

anyway keep it up, this is how skunk. haze. cal orange bud, big but etc were all produced, not in big labs by BIG breeders and companies etc, but in smaller setups by the people that know best what they really want.. THE GROWERS. you and I!

anyway enough sidetracking, what i wanted to really say was there are a few mwthods of producing female pollen.

1: SOMA's way is to flower for an extra 7-14 days past peak maturity till this stresses the ladies into producing stamens (male flowers)
2: stress will do this for you, alot of us may mistakenly think this is a hermie plant and chuck it... this may not always be the case unless there is a high sativa percentage. sativas have a high hermie rate naturally, (just one of the sativa drawbacks, like flower time, but hey perfection come at a cost)
3: giberellic acid (applied to flowering plants)
4: ethylene in high concentrations (applied to flowering plants)
5:using hermie pollen - this method is not fail proof as your hermies may result from stress (giving you what you want) or may occur due to true hermaphroditism, whis as we all know give us a mixed batch of males females and hermies. i advise that true hermies be discarded. you know its a true hermie if out of your crop of females only one or two hermie on you. these plant hermie naturally in nature... discard these if the males were NOT induced by stress or other UNnatural methods.


i have never produced female seeds personally but have read up on the subject quite a bit, (cause i more of a breeder, female seeds are an end product and i consider a genetic cul de sac, good for growers not breeders) its an end product...

i have read recently also that to choose a female for fem seeding is also important. in cervantes' bible he talks about really stressing a group of candidates and using as a reciever of fem-pollen the plant(s) that dont reverse sex due to stress. he considers this plant a true female and one whos offspring wont stress under adverse conditions and cause hermying of the suposedly fem-seeds. as may happen as some of us have found out...
anyone else have more info on the subject, feel free to add to this thread..

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This statment is confusing:

i advise that true hermies be discarded, you know its a true hermie if out of your crop of females only one or two hermie on you. these plant hermie naturally in nature... discard these if the males were NOT induced by stress or other UNnatural methods.

It sounds like your saying you have a true hermie(A HERMAPHRODITE) if you get only a couple hermies out of a crop, when in reality it's the reverse. If your garden has a lot of hermies then they are considered true HERMAPHRODITES.

not exactly.. no i said that if you dont stress you plants and you get hermies then those can be considered true hermies... because it wasnt induced externally..

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yes you are right there, its alot easier to say its a pure hermie in such a case.
but in a group of seeds there is alway the possibility of getting some hermies that are naturally occuring. if this is the case this hermie will not produce the desired female pollen. but rather a mix of either male, female and hermie genetics thats in its dna database. as opposed to the induced hermaphoraditism where the only genicic makeup in the pollen is female.

be it one two or the majority of the plants. this doesnt matter. you may get one, or none or all of them as i have discovered from african seeds i was giftd with a few years back. its more common amongst sativas than indicas for example. but nowadays alot of breeds have sativas in the mix so the possibilty is always there, and same as you might get one none or alot of males the same goes for hermies.... basically its luck on the growers part.

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What ever you do don't breed one hermie with another hermie, the offspring will be full blown hermie unless both were induced by stress in that same generation. The hemaphroditism will be a dominant trait in the offspring. You will have a seeded crop due to all the pollen hiding in those plants.

exactly, you got it that would be very problematic... it would be a few month growing gone to waste

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great post. Most breeders sell off their fem seeds to make some dank (With a low hermi rate). The thing I dont like about them doing that is they sterilize the seed just as much as a GM crop would. There isnt any way to get a stable father out of the bunch, or a stable mother in fact(Because it still has hermaphroditic genes;like you say mostly sativas have them, but this way any strain can have them). Kindve kills the purpose of getting landrace strains, or Pure Indicas

sory vossman, you lost me there, im dead tired and my mental capabilities are overly diminished.. tell it to me like i was a five year old... why would this kill the fun of getting land races to breed? there is the high probability of hermies in sativa strains but then there is also all those untapped fun flavours and awesome highs.. the fun of breeding is precisely that... but i may have misunderstood where you wanted to get.. sry.. rally tired ive been up for almost 36hrs now

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From what I understand. That is the case if you induce the hermi by stress...it carries the stress to the seed. Not with the Soma technique (Mother nature) or the G acid (plant is still a female). I may have misunderstood my readings, though?

Peace.

ah, ok.. yes that could very well happen. im not overly fond of stressing plants though. you could in the rush for fem seeds be actually using a hermie thinking it was a transgender female.... its isnt 100 percent like the other teks...

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hermi by stress is always a factor, but hermi by gene is something that you cant get around. I dont like it because the plants cant grow on their own in nature. Its great if you want to get some top notch bud, but they become sterile. I would think you would want to keep strains going strong while inbreeding and hybridizing

I concur with meigs. The only real viable female pollen should be harvested from a solid female that is encouraged to grow pollen sacs with giberellic acid or mother nature teks. Stressed hermies on the other hand carry the stress and very possibly the hermie trait to the next generation.

The only way I would us female pollen by stress it a very hermi resistant strain.
Here is one: Does a hermie produce hermies?

Peace.

perfect junction Megs

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