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I have had two harvest. one picked early due to worm infestation, but it was very close to being done. and the other turned out pretty good. just built a grow room split in half one side veg and the other flowering. built a little box cabinet with 5 shelfs made out of metal screen temp around 75-78. they dry for about 2 to 3 days before i put them into jars for the curing, the jar process takes about a week or two, the buds are not smelling like i want them to. my question is any tips on getting the buds more stinky?
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you are going to have that chlorophyll smell for awhile. it can take a month or more to get a perfect cure. also, if your buds are TOO dry during curing that can lead to lower smells. make sure no part of your bud feels "crispy". a light spray of water to moisten them, or even an orange peel put in the jar can help. dont leave it in there long though, you dont want mold destroying your lovely crop. other than that i dont really know of any process that "gets the buds more stinky"..... hope this helps keep us updated
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hmmm,

I guess its a trait from the strain that determine's how 'stinky' they are,

You might just have a strain that doesnt put off alot of smell, but makes up for it in taste or potentcy

Plus i think ur not letting them dry long enuff b4 curing, i dont think it would help the smell,but it might? i let mine hang up atleast 2 or 3 weeks, and the buds i cut for smoking early, i let those sit out atleast 2 weeks b4 putting into a jar,

i dunno man, maybe just the strain
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You hang the buds for about a week until the twigs snap. This is critical. Then you can put them in paper bags for up to 3 weeks and then jar them. This helps them cure faster, the paper bag that is. A few weeks in a jar, and off you go! Usually it has to be cured for about a month at least in jars. and you have to make sure you open them every day to let the air exchange, this way the chloryphil outgases, I guess.
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Only drying for 2-3 days is whats killing the smell, unless,
they really are 'drying' that fast.
In which case, you need to slow down the dry process.
Whats the Hu in the general area of the dry box?
Are there fan(s), air movement over the buds?

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Oh yeah, I love this Thothamom´s phrase:
All the stuff we do up to the harvest is science,
All the stuff we do after is art.


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I have had two harvest. one picked early due to worm infestation, but it was very close to being done. and the other turned out pretty good. just built a grow room split in half one side veg and the other flowering. built a little box cabinet with 5 shelfs made out of metal screen temp around 75-78. they dry for about 2 to 3 days before i put them into jars for the curing, the jar process takes about a week or two, the buds are not smelling like i want them to. my question is any tips on getting the buds more stinky?
Once your buds are dry, they are ready to be cured.
Curing is what gives your buds the DANK smell and taste.
It also evens out the coloring, "brings out the crystals", and makes your smoke smoother. Loosely fill Mason jars with the buds and put the lids on tightly.
You should open the jars once daily and rearrange the buds for the first 7 days.
After that it is only necessary to open the jars weekly.
Curing should be at least 2 weeks.

Some strains can take up to 2 months to completely cure.

But as a rule of thumb, 2 weeks in cure should give you primo looking, smelling, tasting, and potent DANK buds.
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thankyou to all who have replied. i don't have a big space to hang the plants, so i built the box with screens as the shelfs and lay the buds still on the big stems on the screen shelf. in about two to three days the buds are a little crispy and feel dry but the stems are still really moist, so at this point this is where i put them in the glass jars still on the stems, i have a few large jars that are long. i will let them be in there for about a day then i will take them out for an hour or a little less to dry up a little bit, then throw them back in the jar, and keep repeating the process each day untill the stems are dry, then at this point i remove the buds from the stems and place just the buds in the jars. and mabey open it once a day or so. but once i take the buds off the stems and i put them in the jars i feel that they are ready to smoke,so i start amoking it. and this whole process takes about 2 weeks. maybe this will help someone determine my problem, and i will try to post a pic. think the last stuff was afgan goo. so maybe it was the strain, but got some better strains going now hopefully it turns out better. thanks to all love hearing what you guys have to say.
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As others have stated, I think you may be rushing the first part of the drying process. Buds that are anywhere near "dry" in 2-3 days are located in a place that is too warm or a place that has too much airflow. For this reason, I only use an exhaust fan in my drying room.

Here's how I do it. Certainly not the "gospel'...but it works for me and works well for larger amounts of product...say more than a Mason jar full

I hang my ganja in a dark/cool room. Temp is about 70F...humidity 50% or less. It takes me anywhere from 7-9 days to get 'the snap". I then put everything in a plastic bag and seal it up overnight. This redistributes the remaining moisture from the STEMS into the buds and the next AM the stems WILL NOT snap. I then "re-dry' it until it again snaps...and repeat the bagging process again. It usually takes 2-3 times doing this to get to the point where all of the buds are evenly "dry"....and THEN I jar it all up for storage/further curing via the "open the jar" every-so-often method.

Small amounts of weed (Mason Jar) can be somewhat rehydrated merely by repeatedly blowing your breath into the jar and resealing it or by holding it in your hand and blowing your breath through it....but the real art is to NOT overdry it in the first place.

take your time. Pay attention. You cannot rush a good thing.

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You could;
I'm assuming no fan is involved..
Stack the buds closer together on the screen or put all on one layer.
Decrease the total volume of the bud box (partially fill empty space).
Raise Hu inside box.
Add paperbag step betweeen box and jars.
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I dried mine in an Armoire with a fan inside bouncing off the walls and very gently accross the buds. The door kept it dark in there. I very briefly checked them daily for the first few days to make sure I had no mold growth. In 7 days they were dry but not too dry. The stems snapped perfectly so I clipped the buds off the stems and placed them loosely in Mason Jars 2/3rds full and put them in a dark cupboard in the Basement. I opened these jars(burped) daily at the same time every day for a half hour and kept them in a dark closet while opened. Reseal and put back in the cupboard. I open daily for two solid weeks then once every 3 days for the same half hour. Using this method I have absolutely PERFECT Medicine. No Mold no rot just plain old juicy sticky and delicious bud to medicate with. That paperbag method sketches me out so much as I just feel that it massacres glands BUT I am probably wrong about that one too. This method just worked extremely well for me and was everything GP said it would be. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN GP!!!!!!!!
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Sorry guy's but there aint gonna be nothin close to the quality of a good 30-45 day jar cure anytime soon.LOL
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During hang drying your buds will actually lose alot of the smell almost to nothing. It alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllll changes rapidly when it goes into Jars. Yummy!
My Afghan Haze tasted like Citrus Flowers almost "rosey" when I tasted it before jarring. Now after nearly 30 days when ya open a jar the smell will knock you out! Full on Pungent Lemons(skunky lemons) and the inhale and exhale taste exactly like a super sour lemon. 2 1 hitters and it's dreamland for a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time and I notice a serious giggle session with some even more serious couchlock after a long while.
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Now where I am growing just to extract medicinal oil, it is not necessary for me to cure, correct? I'm only obligated to dry the buds for a week or so...?

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i do have a fan in the box , it is very small and does not blow hard at all. its blowing against the wall to create a tiny draft.... ok so when i am drying the buds i wait till the buds are crispy but the stems are still flimsy and can't snap. this is about 3 days into drying, then i have put them into the jars and start the curing process and within an hour the buds are really wet again. and i have been opening the jar every day taking the buds out for about an hour to let them dry up a little bit put them back in the jarsthis process takes another week or two then its ready to smoke. that is what i have been doing......... so im guessin i need to let the first step dry more? and when i put it in the paper bag am i removing the buds from the stems or putting the whole stem with the buds into the paper bags? should i not take the buds out of the jar when i burp the jar to get the air in there? thanks to all you all have been great!
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i do have a fan in the box , it is very small and does not blow hard at all. its blowing against the wall to create a tiny draft.... ok so when i am drying the buds i wait till the buds are crispy but the stems are still flimsy and can't snap. this is about 3 days into drying, then i have put them into the jars and start the curing process and within an hour the buds are really wet again. and i have been opening the jar every day taking the buds out for about an hour to let them dry up a little bit put them back in the jarsthis process takes another week or two then its ready to smoke. that is what i have been doing......... so im guessin i need to let the first step dry more? and when i put it in the paper bag am i removing the buds from the stems or putting the whole stem with the buds into the paper bags? should i not take the buds out of the jar when i burp the jar to get the air in there? thanks to all you all have been great!
Paper bag is for moist colas that where put in jars but need more then the 15 min daily.
Paper bag the complete jar contents till pretty dry again then back into the jars for short 15 min airings then once a week till week 5 to be enjoyed
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High all..

I'm in with pretty much everyting that has been written here... BUT

Which twig must snap?? twigs range from 1/8 to a 1/4 inch in diamiter.

I go 7-10 days in a silo type 2X2X6' box, (no fan)

The box is raised off the floor about 1.5 inches and has a 'very' loose fitting top so warm rising air can escape.. temps 68-70, humidity 50-60%..
NO LIGHT. But I never get the twigs to snap, the bud seem dry enough and does not mold. Flavor and moisture doesn't seem to be a problem..

Then into paper bags for 2-3 days and then.. I've gone from 1 quart to 2 quart mason jars.. 2/3 filled.. I feel there is less chance of mold with the larger volume bottle.. not scientific but 'my logic'. Fewer bottles to burp.
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