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Old 06-02-2009, 07:53 AM
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Hey GP,
How long into the flowering stage can cuttings be taken from my plants?
Mine are starting their fifth week this week.
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Hi H2O, I have asked a similar question before, and I have been suggested by Hatch that it is way better to take cuttings during veg, but if you are flowering already and you are within the first two weeks you can still do it with good results
So do it ASAP
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i think someone said in another post two weeks. but in my opinion theres no harm in trying anyway
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I've tried it. Not many made it. If you're going to try it, take them from the bottom branches.Good luck.
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So, taking clones during Veg is a gamble and you don't know if the clones are anything good until the mother is eventually flowered? I'm new to cloning as well and have many questions such as this.
What about the stress involved in cutting from a flowering plant, reverting the clone to a veg state, then returning it to a flowering stage? Will that upset the balance and possibly cause it to hermie ?
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So, taking clones during Veg is a gamble and you don't know if the clones are anything good until the mother is eventually flowered? I'm new to cloning as well and have many questions such as this.

i would take a clone from each. and then the clone of the best performer eventually becomes a mother. ... well that how i would do it.

What about the stress involved in cutting from a flowering plant, reverting the clone to a veg state, then returning it to a flowering stage? Will that upset the balance and possibly cause it to hermie ?

no it wont, this is one resilient plant. so if you manage to clone a flowering branch and it survives all you have to do is let it grow. it may cause some sorts of stress in the leaves but thats just the leaves that were forming into calyxes or whatever when the order was reversed. its normal.
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So, taking clones during Veg is a gamble and you don't know if the clones are anything good until the mother is eventually flowered? I'm new to cloning as well and have many questions such as this.

i would take a clone from each. and then the clone of the best performer eventually becomes a mother. ... well that how i would do it.

What about the stress involved in cutting from a flowering plant, reverting the clone to a veg state, then returning it to a flowering stage? Will that upset the balance and possibly cause it to hermie ?

no it wont, this is one resilient plant. so if you manage to clone a flowering branch and it survives all you have to do is let it grow. it may cause some sorts of stress in the leaves but thats just the leaves that were forming into calyxes or whatever when the order was reversed. its normal.
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Thanks All,
I'm going to give it shot and see what comes up or out.
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Be patient. You're looking at 7-14 days to root, 7 to 14 days to return to a vegetative state and a couple of days after that to start pushing new growth. Any flowering growth will be dead by then, and will need to be removed as new leaves start emerging.
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if the strain was worth it i'd do it.
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Unknown strain, started from bagseeds for my first grow. This is my R and D grow. Can't learn from my mistakes if I don't make any.
I appreciate the feedback, you folks are super helpful.
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ah right, experimentation. go right ahead and try it. there only one way to know for sure ...
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H2O you got it right,you wont know till you try and then if they dont make it,well you try and got some first hand infor too.You may win and they root and they may not root.bit dont let that stop you from trying.It's all a learning curve.Keep up the good work. Peace
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Hey all,
Well after about two weeks, three of the six clones have rooted. One barely, one has about 2" to 3" roots and the other has roots about six to eight inches already. The leaves are starting to turn yellow, must be them returning to veg state.?. It also looks like they kept flowering for a while, even the ones that didn't root. They had tiny buds that smelled sweet. Hopefully they keep going.
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Thats Awesome H2O ...

what method did you use for cloning ?
Will you be growing in soil ?
Have you fed them anything yet ?
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Well after about two weeks, three of the six clones have rooted. One barely, one has about 2" to 3" roots and the other has roots about six to eight inches already. The leaves are starting to turn yellow, must be them returning to veg state.?. It also looks like they kept flowering for a while, even the ones that didn't root. They had tiny buds that smelled sweet. Hopefully they keep going.
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congrats grasshopper, lol. ...you have lost your cloning 'cherry', as it were, lol.

anyway, the one with the roots 6- 8 inchs is definitely ready to be potted up.

the others sound like you need to let them root a bit longer.

and that yellowing is them telling you they are hungry! ...lol.

lol, and one more thing (in my best Columbo-esque voice), let that hope for
those little buds to keep growing go, you don't want it to flower, you want it to veg
into a big, fat and sassy momma, with little branch's fair poppin' into your hands, lol,
and those little budlets will just become dead matter on your new plant, then you
just pick them off, lol.

assuming of course that the parent plant matures into something you want to keep!
...at least now, you have the option! ...be thankful you didn't opt for an
auto-flowering strain instead!

i wanted to say also that, as a micro-sog grower, i try to grow short, single cola plants
which often send out lateral branchs lower down on the main stem during the first stretch
which i trim off after the end of the second week of 12\12. ...my belief is that then the
plant will concentrate it's energy fattening up the remaining, main cola.

whew, ...what i'm getting at is that i've often used those lower branchs as cuts if, for some
reason, i don't have a mom producing cuts for me already.

usually, i just toss them though because, as has already been said, your failure rate goes up
the deeper into flower you take the cuts, ...2 weeks seems to be the cut off, ...after that,
you begin to lose more than you root.
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I cloned a plant that was 3 weeks into flower last year and it took a long time to root then reveg ,like 5 weeks of nothing the she started vegging . I got a plant and some good bud off her in the end.It was worth it but i dont reccomend it . Best to get clones before flower
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