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12-16-2008, 08:57 PM
|  | Tokin & smokin | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: "Among the green green grass of home" aka Glasgow(drug&murder capital of Europe!
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Originally Posted by MasterApprentice Fellow GPers>>>Heres some well contsructed advice from myself and also from jorge cervantes,its a post i made at GK that i think could benefit GP,its basic common sense stuff but theres also a LOT of great links to sites about knowing your rights as a citizen,knowing how to stop the cops from just searching you in the street or raidng your home without the correct protocols,iv had soooo many ppl thank me for this post that i thought maybe my fellow GPers would benefit and appeciate it aswell,i dont care if it makes the FAQS or not but its certainly FAQ material but thats not my decision thats for the mods/admin to decide or a member poll,etc.JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A WORTHY POST TO MAKE,EVEN AS A STICKY IN THE BEGINNERS LOUNGE?pEACE AND rEGARDS from Master.Apprentice 
Heres the MJ cultivators security 101 aka the common sense method  .A lot of growers dont actually realise that THEE biggest threat to them and their liberty and their grow is ....lying beside them in bed!    Yup ,i dont know the exact stat on this but personally i know of a few ppl locally in Glasgow who have had a drunken domestic with the mr or the mrs and next thing the neighbours have called the cops and before you know it your partner is screaming to the cops " he grows pot iN the bedroom closet!".... BUSTED! .You THIK that spouses/partners or family members are of no consequence if they know you grow but you couldnt be more wrong,a family member whos jealous cos your harvesting 5oz per plant growing 6 plants in a closet every few months can EASILY get jealous,NONE of my family know WHERE i grow,they KNOW i grow but thats where it ends,same with my mrs and any cultivator friends(apart from the ones who have earned their place in my 'hemp club'),some of my cultivator friends grow or let me use their home for growing along with their own grows so the way i figure is if they get busted they aint gonna snitch on me cos all the cops would do is throw a 'intent to sell./distribute' charge at them for their troubles,thats karmas sense of humour,lol,gotta love the karma but remember the old WW11 adage >"LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS" ,even on MJ forums you get DEA nerds patrolling various forums to try get info outta ppl hence the reason i NEVER answer PM's with questions like "where do you live so i can send you some seeds"  or "how many ounces per year do you get from your harvests"/"how many grows do you do at once",lol,although i MUST say that sites like GP,GK and MJP are much much less likely to have the cops patrolling around under the guise of a member cos unlike the demise of overgrow.com,our sites do not advocate or advertise sees for sale DIRECT from the site,we only provide KNOWLEDGE on MJ to those who wish to know more about it so dont all go running for the exits,sites like GP and GK are sooooooo much safer than ones like planet ganja and others that are OWNED by seedbanks and theefore are NOT forums like ours in the sense our forums (GP/GK) wanna dispense knowledge on cultivation for FREE as opposed to othe sites cos all they wanna do is dispense seeds illegally for cash,perish the thought! SECURITY 101
Iv concluded the thread with some amazing and priceless video links and info on knowing your rights as a citizen,theres also other great vids and info like finding out exactly what the regional jail terms for cultivation and possession of more than a few ounces in your state,just type your state and it gives you the lowdown on the jailtime that we all try to avoid.END PROHIBTION! (Thers even a link and illustration on how to make your own home made carbon scrubber to hide the pungent odours of skunk,etc) HOPE Y'ALL FIND THIS AS USEFUL AS I DID AND MANY OTHER CULTIVATORS WHOM I HAVE TOLD ABOUT IT.Peace and STAY SAFE at ALL costs!  | EDIT:Iv finished of the post with an excerpt on security from Jorge Cervantes  'Indoor growing bible',it covers all the basics.One of the things that you all should be aware of is>>Do you trust your partner Cos a lot of ppl end up busted due to drunken domestics and their partner will ring the cops and if they dont arrest the partner then usually the last war cry is they tell the cops you grow weed ..so always make sure if your partner knows about your grow then MAKE SURE YOU TRUST YOUR PARTNER 100% STAY SAFE.Cheers Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jorge Cervantes What are the security issues when growing indoors?
Growers and tokers have been made into "the enemy" by the American
government in the War on Drugs. It is the job of law enforcement to
arrest the flower-growing enemy. To wage this war on US citizens, law
enforcement wields an impressive arsenal, including draconian laws and
high tech surveillance gizmos. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jorge Cervantes Security Alert! Never tell anybody about any garden. Control where you go. Stay away from other grow houses, wild parties,
real criminals, etc. Always take a friend's car to the grow store and go
seldom. Travel with others whenever possible. Your car is easy to trace
and follow. Keep your consumption habits reasonable; don't show large
cash income. Buy large assets, houses and cars, over time. Don't ever
tell anybody you are growing or even joke about growing. Always have a job and a reason for your activities. Keep a low profile. Security Alert! Don't talk on the phone about any garden. Keep your home and surrounding property in good repair. Make sure the
house is painted, lawn mowed and garbage picked up. Keep electrical use
to a reasonable amount and keep the air clean around the house. Have
very few visitors and keep to yourself. Have minimal conversations with
neighbors.
Never trust anybody, friends, family - brother, sister, children, even
your mother! In America, "Land of the Free", a grower can go to jail
just for giving another grower advice! The RICO conspiracy laws were
enacted to break up the Mafia. Today RICO laws are used against growers
and non-growers alike. Under the law, a person that advises a grower to
"water in the morning" is equally guilty of growing the marijuana
garden, even if he never saw the garden. RICO laws tread on the very
essence of the American Constitution. Security Alert! Don't show anybody any garden. Never visit or telephone other growers. If visiting another grow room,
that grower can implicate you with circumstantial evidence and you are
considered as guilty as the grower!
Law enforcement has sophisticated telephone bugging devices, super
sensitive directional microphones, infrared scopes, thermal imaging,
etc. They can also subpoena telephone, Internet and electrical company
records. Intimidating cops coerce electric company employees to break
the law and give them the records. Tracking telephone numbers, including
location, is very easy. There has been more than one case where law
enforcement illegally acquired telephone records and placed illegal taps
on garden store telephones. Police use telephone records to target grow
houses. Always use pay telephones with an untraceable phone card or pay with coins. Lazy narcs also watch garden store parking lots and follow clients home. Security Alert! Pay bills in cash or with money orders. Pay all bills and make all purchases with cash. Cash tells no tales and
leaves no trails. Pay for mail order merchandise with a money order.
Have the merchandise sent to another address.
Develop garden photos in a large city in a quick develop store.
Remember, the film is not yours! Do not give your telephone number on
the return film information.
Photos should not show incriminating
evidence. Don't photograph people, tattoos, addresses, etc.
US residents should never show their grow show to anyone!!! Never tell
anyone you are growing.
Deny growing to everyone, always! You immediately change from a Weed Warrior to a helpless victim subject to extortion once anybody knows you are growing in the USA. When the cops arrest a "friend" that has seen your grow show to, they can legally use deception and intimidation to squeal on you. Beware! Interrogations can last for months!
Law enforcement rewards jealous, hateful and vindictive "friends",
lovers and enemies for implicating a grower under the RICO laws.
Hundreds of thousands of growers have had their lives ruined in a matter
of moments on testimony from a vindictive "friend". Security Checklist: Electric bill should be about the same as the neighbors and previous tenants
Garden and grounds should be tidy and similar to neighbors
No light leaks whatsoever
Use friend's car to visit grow store
No noise - humming, fan on/off at night, etc. - is audible day and night
No strange odors including ozone smell
All electrical outlets, fuses and connections must be grounded. Inspect
electrical connections for signs of heat - blackened wires, melted
connections and smelly wiring.
Have a current fire extinguisher rated to put out wood, paper, grease, oil and electrical fires.When law enforcement has "evidence" of a growing operation, they look for more. They look at telephone, electric and shipping records for starters. A thermal imaging camera is most often used at this point. Occasionally they use dogs that are trained to sniff out marijuana. The information is used against the grower to obtain a search warrant.
If there are plants discovered at the house, they continue to build the case against the grower by using anything the grower says. The police collect most of the information on the grower from the grower!
Surround your property with a bed of cedar shavings instead of bark
chips in the flowerbeds. Cedar shavings disguise other odors. Use an ozone generator to neutralize the marijuana fragrance. Have a ready reason for extra electrical consumption. Unload grow supplies a little bit at a time or from within a locked garage. Security Alert! Never admit to anything. Absentee owners are the best landlords. Make sure home inspections are
done before you move into the home and the rental agreement should allow for an advance notification of inspections. Put the telephone,
electricity, garbage, etc. in a friend's name. Grow in a rented home. If
you own the home, it is often forfeited if you are suspected of growing.
Curb noise and odors by sealing and insulating the grow room with "sound
board". Similar to sheet rock, soundboard muffles sounds well. Install
rubber feet or grommets on fan feet. Build an extra room or box (allow
for air flow) around ballasts to muffle noise. Place a thick pad under
ballasts to absorb vibrations.
In-line fans are much quieter and efficient than squirrel-cage blowers. If light escapes from vents, give venting a 90-degree turn and paint the vent black where it turns. This will disappear all unwanted light. Ozone-treated air should discharge through a roof vent or chimney to decrease ground level odors. See "Ozone Generators". Be careful when installing a ceiling vent or when venting out chimney. Light shining out the chimney and around roof vents looks very suspicious! Security Alert! Stop pungent smells with an ozone generator. "All electric" homes are few and far between. Electrical use information
from previous tenants might be available from the electric company. On
the average, growers in the US can use one 1000-watt lamp per bedroom.
This means a two bedroom home can host 2000 watts a three bedroom home 3000 watts, etc. Unhook the dryer and other appliances that draw much electricity. Turn the water heater down to 120 degrees and take showers at the gym.
Stealing power from the electric company causes even more exposure than paying for it! The extra risk is insane and it's wrong to steal!
Fortunate growers use the Equalizer, a device that makes electricity
more efficient, see box. Manufactured by Western Water Farms, in BC,
Canada, 1-800-533-9301, Ext. 1, will lower the amount of current
recorded that the line is drawing. In other words, route your grow room
electricity through this device and pay half the electrical bill. Very
slick little unit! The reports on electricity savings on this device
have been incredible. Security Alert! Do not steal electricity! Thermal Imaging Devices Now relatively inexpensive (about $13,000) thermal imaging devices are
becoming more affordable for smaller police forces. Thermal-imaging
devices have been used legally to measure the heat signature escaping
from structures. This invasive "evidence" is used with other "evidence"
to secure a search warrant.
A recent Supeme Court decision declared the use of thermal imaging
devices unconstitutional. Such heat sensing devices cannot be used to
secure a search warrant for the interior of a private building.
Super Size Secret: Grow efficiently and maximize all effort and expense
to harvest a minimum of 0.5 grams per watt of light in the flowering
room every month.
One last bit of simple security detail: grow efficiently! Growers should
harvest 0.5 grams of dried bud every month for each watt of light in the
flowering room. Growers that do not harvest this much are cheating
themselves and must master the basics of growing. Always grow fewer than 99 total plants. Federal laws require a five-year minimum sentence with
no parole when convicted of growing 100 - 1000 plants. | LAST BUT BY NO MEANS LEAST,EVERYONE SHOULD CHECK OUT THESE SITES AND VIDEOS ON THESE TOPICS BELOW!!Heres some great links regarding security and knowing your rights when busted,etc.Cheers Master.Apprentice Quote: |
Originally Posted by MasterApprentices;MUST SEE VIDEOS.KNOW YOUR RIGHTS Know Your Rights! You must always be aware of your rights as the cops will sometimes cross the boundaries just to get a bust,make them earn their wages  This is basic 'know yer rights' stuff but essential knowledge for those who might not be aware of their basic rights when the cops come calling at your home or if they stop you in the streets,etc. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by MasterApprentices;MUST SEE VIDEOS.KNOW YOUR RIGHTS |
__________________ "By any of the major criteria of harm - mortality, morbidity, toxicity, addictiveness and relationship with crime - [cannabis] is less harmful than any of the other major illicit drugs, or than alcohol or tobacco." Report of the British Police Foundation March 2000 “Make the most of the hemp seed, sow it everywhere.” George Washington | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Mr.Apprentice For This Useful Post: | | 
12-16-2008, 09:46 PM
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12-17-2008, 12:17 AM
|  | Tokin & smokin | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: "Among the green green grass of home" aka Glasgow(drug&murder capital of Europe!
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Rep Power: 99 | | True...but even the videos are very useful to know your rights dont you think?
I agree,thats a very zen like statement though,sometimes depending circumstances you NEED to bring other ppl into your 'hemp club' for instance i dont grow at home no more cos of a close encounter when my mate got busted in his car while on his way to visit me to watch the fotball,but HE was their target not nme but it put me back under the scope and on their radar after being of the grid for several years IMHO so i moved home,got a nice new place in a middle class type area instead of the 'streets' i was living in,i have an apt in the city but i only ghrow in it,no one knows where it is except my sister who has spare keys an her and my fellow cultivtor partner are trustworthy,we been doing it for years, i know exactly what precautions to take and who to trust,i trust my gut and it aint never et me down,in my younger days i got busted as a teen 3-4 times at my dads but i alwayw sensed they were coming and they got didly squat outta me...
HOWEVER,this guide is a basic beginners guide that covers the esentials,iv read many of jorge cervantes stuff and got all his dvd's,i only 1st turned on a computer to use the internet in 2005 so when i grew up growing i only had local growers knowledge passed onto me from guys i trust and also some books from great authors,thats why i posted that thread in the avdvanced section with 80 odd books on every MJ topic or method you could think o courtesouy of www.growmoreweed.com(i got their permission)..lol,but i learned by reading the books and trial and error,lol,its only since 2006 really that i learned about forums and a whole new world on the internet,lol cos that was a year after i went to college and learned all about it from boring binary and hexidecimals to visual basic programming,office avanced, DOS and the rest of it,its called an H.N.C and if my mrs hadnt been pregnant and seriosuly ill with her pregnancy and then post natal depression fterwards then by now id have been on year 4 and would have graduated from university(in year 3 you complete the course at Uni) with my masters degree in computing but i intend going back to complete now things are settled at home...
I hope some ppl startin out and looking for a guid get something from this threa but even without the security guide...the VIDEOS on all them links are essentiqal viewing and the info on the sites useful too,its always good to KNOW YOUR RIGHTS...ESPECIALLY as a MEDICINAL user as many ppl on here are.I smoke certain strains for medical use,GH'S Church,BigBang and TFD's POG all help me in areas the doctors cant.I dig the medical properties of this site,there should be more site like GP.Peace
__________________ "By any of the major criteria of harm - mortality, morbidity, toxicity, addictiveness and relationship with crime - [cannabis] is less harmful than any of the other major illicit drugs, or than alcohol or tobacco." Report of the British Police Foundation March 2000 “Make the most of the hemp seed, sow it everywhere.” George Washington | 
12-20-2008, 01:52 AM
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