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Old 09-28-2007, 05:19 PM
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I now this seems like such a basic question, but please....answer it.
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So again,and please, How do you grow your plant in the veg stage?
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Never really thought about it I just do it.

After cloning (even still under humidity domes) they are immediately put under t5's at 18/6. I keep the t5's at their lowest light level and increase after about a week.

Even clones are started out with a diluted mix of ferts. (those roots are tender). And I try to be careful not to fert. at every feeding.

I check the leaves on a regular basis for things like spider mites. Those little buggers can clip in almost anywhere.

I keep one fan on the plants while they are small. The air movement encourages strong stems and helps discourage some plant diseases that thrive in stagnent conditions.

As the plants become bigger in the veg stage I like to add a second fan if possible. This one is added at a different angle. Depending on the temp/humidity you can now turn on one or both.
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I veg with a bag of doritos and the xbox
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I veg under 18hours of light.
I always veg for atleast a month.
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Flouresent tubes and cfl for 20 days 24 hours
Floursent tubes, cfl and hid for 25 days 18/6
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I agree with Shaman.

I have tried a few different cycles.

I feel like the plants need sleep just like any other living thing..

I also agree with him on the time/
3-5 weeks depending on the plants.

When you learn to hear the plant it will talk to you and tell you what it needs.
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Soil:

If I am doing clones (99.9% of the time) I use RapidRooters or rockwool...

I then plant those into a mixture of 60% Foxfarm Ocean Forest and 40% perlite in the largest styrofoam cups i can find with a good drainage hole in the bottom.

under the t-5s they go for 24/0 fun. Wham Bam Thank you Ma'am with LOTS of light is the key. When the roots start to wrap in the styro cup.....I up pot into a 1 gallon and finish the veg to my desired height. A week before flower I transplant to a 2-3 gallon and then flip em to 12/12.

Hydro: Clones in rapids or rockwool...or aero if you have a bubbler or bucket...when you have ample roots coming out of the cube...into hydroton...run 24/0 lights and drip...backing the drip off to 15 minutes per hour after 1 day/the hydroton is all wet.

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Proper lighting is very important in VEG. Low light will cause spindly/tall plants that are hesitant to branch out. This is often amplified if you are growing sativas/sat hybrids.

Ample lighting AND ventilation will result in bushy/branching plants with healthy root systems. t-5 or Halide @ 25 watts per sq ft or higher is optimal/the best bet for bushy growth in veg. CFL is also favorable for smaller numbers of plants or for side lighting. Side lighting will increase the chance the plant will fill/bush out sufficiently to take cuts or offer multiple bud sites. Temps in veg should never exceed 85F. 65-75 is optimal. IMO.

Always monitor NITROGEN levels in veg. The higher the temp of the room the LOWER the N should be in the mix. High temps/high N will also cause spindly/tall plants with lengthy internodal spacing. If temps are cool in the room and light levels are high the plant will take in more nitrogen and use it for dense/bushy growth.

Beneficial microbes and mycorrihzae innoculants are also very important in early veg. These products can be apllied early on in the veg cycle in an attempt to boost ROOT MASS. The larger the root mass the healthier/larger/more productive the plant will be.
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most of my experance has been with outdoor so its really easy.
once they have about 2 or 3 leaves i go plant them in the bush and let mother nature take over.
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I use a 4 foot shoplight with 2 40 watt cool white flo's. I also have a 17 watt fish tank flo and a reptile flo im not sure what the wattage is. I also have a 150 watt hps that im using right now but thats only cause i dont have any plants in flower at the moment. I like to tie my plants down to let the sides grow out. I usually let them go until they are about a foot tall before putting them into flower. I also cut the top cola off so the sides can catch up to the top. I just topped 2 of my plants yesterday and i'm trying to clone them by sticking them in water. I dont have any root gel or nutes besides some miracle grow but i dont like using it. I basically germ the seed throw it in dirt and water it. I am very broke.
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If you can add an airstone/some bubbles you will see roots faster, bigflint.
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I can sure understand being broke. I grew several crops with nothing but shop lights. Now, however, I am retired and just started with a 400w HPS and a 1000w MH/HPS conversion.
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