Ive got my cabinet grow going. Its about 1.5' deep, 2' wide, and 3' tall. Being that it is a small space, should I go for 250w or 400w? Obviously the 400w can have larger yields and foliage penetration, but will that be too hot or too much for that size space? Thanks for all the input.

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Hey DiAbetic,

That space sounds to be custom made for a 2ft-4 lamp (2X4) T-5 flourescent fixture. Since that space is so small heat is going to be an issue for you. A BIG issue. The T-5 fixture will not run as hot as a 250w HID. You can put your hand right on the bulbs for minutes at a time. Try that with an HPS or an MH! Downside is that the light will not be as intense. If you line the inside of the cab with reflective material it should work better than an HID as it will be much easier to keep cool imho. Plus that cab is just about the right size that the reflector on the T-5 will reflect upwards light back down very handily.

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I dont think you cant put something 2'x4' in a 1.5'x2'x3' space unless its flexable.

With a space that size i would use CFL's. You could get a piece of wood and mount the CFL's to it and find a way to raise and lower it in your cabinet (as you would an hid)

I would definately get mylar

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CFL's would be your best bet here. They will put out more lumens than the 2ft T-5's, and you can place them easier. Still, heat is going to be an issue regardless of what lights you use.

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Hey knottyd,

That's a 2ftX4 lamp fixture. Not a 2ftX4ft fixture.

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This is true..but there are ways to vent your cabinet

Just gives you something else to think about..

where theres a will....theres a way... your gonna have to get creative so smoke up and zone out and see what you can come up with

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Hey Dieabetic,you can get one or two 150 watt cfl's and have good light in there.Two 150 watt cfl's and you have 8000 lumens each.They do have mogul socket and not regular light socket.You can get them at electrical supply house for around $6.00 each.some wire nuts and power cord and alittle diy-ing and your set. I would said two 150 watters,two mogul socket,power cord,and some hardware you will be just under $100.00. One 150 watt light $50.00.PEACE

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it would be tough getting an hid in there with the heat issues, although i do use a 150 watt HPS in a crawlspace, the plants can be 6 inches from the bulb no problem.

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I figure I can try a 250 watt, perhaps get a cool tube if the heat is still bad. i dont think the temp will be that much of a problem if i have direct cooling for the lamp and cab. i have 3 CFLs in right now for germinating and the clones.

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A 250 watt with a cooltube won't give you too many heat issues, and the intensity shouldn't burn your plants.

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I ended up getting a 250w with reflector shield and both MH HPS bulbs for a good price. got some mylar too for the inside.... cant wait for them to arrive...

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You should be good to go if you can keep your temps down.

Looks like you did your homework as you seem to be covering all your bases..keep up the good work

Dont forget pics when you get everything in and set-up

Holla if you need anymore help

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Hey DieAbetic and all,
I have been struggling with the same ideas of light. I am designing my first indoor. 2 ft deep 4 ft wide 8 ft tall with top 2 ft reserved for filters, fans, etc. That would leave 6 ft of grow height. I am struggling with which way to go. 400 watt digital MH/HPS or 2 Multi Spectrum 315 wat CFL Light Bank from Stealthhydroponics. This unit has three bulbs - two spirals 6500K in veg or 3000K in flower and one tube 6500 K. They claim to produce 17000 lumens. Two of these sound awesome with no where near the heat of a HID lamp. What do you guys think?

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Hi energy equals mass times the speed of light squared....although I am a CFL fan for many reasons...once you start needing much over 300w I would recommend the HID...and remember that CFL's are hotter per watt than HID...it is just that CFL watts are generally spread out over several bulbs so indvidual cfl bulbs are not as hot as a HID bulb...I would be confident that 630 watts (you said two combo rigs) for the CFL flourescent combo will give more heat in total than the 400 HID watts...but remember we are pickin' nits here...both set ups will work well in your space...just don't grow the plants to high if you go CFL...HIDs penetrate deeper. Also the rig you discuss doesn't seem to allow you to pick where you place each cfl bulb for optimum distribution yet another reason I would pick the HID in this specific example.

i grow in a space not much bigger, i use a 400w hps with cooltube and centrifugal fan exhausting the heat. heat is not a problem for me 80-85 degrees in day and 78 degrees at night.(british climate helps)

i dont have any intake fan or vents except the tiny gap in the door, however i do open the cupboard 2 to 3 times a day and once in the middle of the dark period(if im awake)


peace

I would go with the GrowUfo....led. Im using this light now. No heat....and awesome. Never worrying about heat in my grow room with leds. Ive been growing with them for over a year and Im loving my results. It was a bitch finding a great company though and found one after 4 months of researching all the companies.

DO NOT listen to this guy. He is a seller of LED's and has spammed our site. He is now banned. Here is a note from Videoman in regards to this.

Peace

You know what mr.led? I take everything back I've previously said.
There is absolutely NO reason for you to contact me, I've done my research, and my patience for a person of your caliber is extremely short.

You join our site, you read the rules and so fourth, yet you decided to ignore them, and than when you are caught with your hand in the cookie jar, you wanna give me attitude?

You came here with nothing, nada, just your ranting and raving.
I checked and that IS your site, mr.led www.grwwthleds.com (editted to prevent people going to this guys site. J-angel)

Theres is a right way, and a wrong way to build your business and most site owners would be all too eager to help a guy out trying to get on his feet. Assuming he is a stand up guy.

You however, just found the wrong way to promote your site, DONT SPAM!
Your now banned and have to load your wares into your wagon, and go find a new site to spam, good luck with that.

Next time you may want to be upfront and honest, when you are asking people to part with there hard earned cash, cause if your gonna lie about who you are.....what else are you lying about?
Peace

Show me some pictures! I'm sure with a years grow experience with LEDs and great results that you are proud of, you must of taken a few pics. I'm in the process of planning and constructing my first indoor grow set up and I would not want to make a big mistake by buying a "pig in a poke" so to speak. I have seen great results from the wonderful people on the site using HIDs and CFLs and being new to indoor I would trust your results more to see conclusive evidence, ie pictures. I mean no harm to your reputation, but I can't afford to replace a light system months into my first grow because of lack of proof and info. Oh, and by the way, you say that you are not a salesman, however, I am in real life, and you sure do sound like one of us ( a salesman, that is ). Peace

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I have seen two grows by two different poeple using led's.Both the grows were pitaful looking.They didnt produce more then a half oz.Led's are not ready for growing mj at this time.Maybe in the further they can make them work. Peace

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