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kailiwela44 · #1 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 11:18 PM

I am currently in the planning phases for a cab grow using a wardrobe cabinet measuring 48"x20"x72". It's the same thing as the Mills C-24 cab. What i plan to do is have four areas; flower area ~23"x20"x60", a mother/veg area ~23"x20"x36", a clone/veg area ~23"x20"x24", and an utility area ~48"x20"x12".

Flower Area
I plan to use a 250w HPS, remote magnetic ballast (HTG), and a super nova hood. I will cool the light using the stanley mod. I am still not sure how i should exhaust the area if i am using a passive system. I do have a plan to use two cpu fans with smaller carbon filters on both fans. blowing into the utility area. The light's ehaust will be sent straight out through the top.

Mother/Veg
I will have about three moms lighted by a 2" 2bulb T5HO fluoro w/ veg lights. Leftover available space will have clones in 1gallon pots.

Clone/veg
I have a Humidity dome measuring 22"x10"x10". I will try to see if i can use closet storage wire, mounted to the walls to hold the humidity dome, and some clones. Otherwise i will cut holes into the shelves provided and use those. Both the mother and clone area will be vented simultaneously using passive intakes and two cpu fans exhausting into the utility cab. This will be lighted with 3-6 26w cool white cfls.

Utility area
I hope to have all electrical equipment in this area with some room for a drying space. I know that i will have two power strips,one for the flower area and one power strip for Mother and Clone area.

Any input?

much thanks,
kailiwela44

DieAbetic · #2 (**permalink**) 08-29-2008, 11:40 AM

you might want to get some more fans for that setup. and what are you doing for smell? go to our do-it-yourself section and make a carbon filter :-). also clones dont need a whole lot of light, you wont need 6 CFLs unless you are vegging in the same chamber

scott06 · #3 (**permalink**) 08-29-2008, 04:34 PM

couldn't agree more with DieAbetic!

kailiwela44 · #4 (**permalink**) 08-29-2008, 04:45 PM

I've read about not using to much light for clones. I originally wanted to utilize the entire space, reason why 3-6 cfls, but after going through the pros and cons, the clone area may just have the Humidity dome without using cfls. I need to do a little further research to see what type of fluoro tube i can use for rooting clones--since this area will be above the main veg area should i use the black side of Panda film to absorb the light and what type of lighting do you use for clones? I also believe that it will be easier with ventilation if i were to use a closet rack to hold the dome allowing more space for free flow of air up and out...i'm a lil buzzed...i can see it but is it understandable?

As far as using carbon filters. I only plan to use one for the light exhaust and one for the flower area. For exhausting the flower area, i'm leaning toward an inexpensive bathroom fan with a carbon filter hooked to it's exhaust--i noticed some areas using this but not how it is exhausted, filtered, and so forth. More research.

Have a nice weekend,
kailiwela44

kailiwela44 · #5 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 03:56 AM

The first picture is how the cab would look layed out from the front. The top area i left clear because this is where i think i'll put my electrical equipment. The things that are missing, and also need kokua (help), are where to mount my stanley exhaust, how to exhaust the cabs, what lighting i need to use for clone area, how to place my Humidity dome, and other things i don't see because of my lack of exerience.
The second picture is what the top view will look like. I have the T5 overlapping the Humidity dome because it is mounted above the light--see pic 1. I thinking this is how i should lay out both the light and the humidity dome. I'm thinking of using the wire rack mounted to the wall to hold up the dome.

tokecrazy · #6 (**permalink**) 08-31-2008, 08:23 AM

Hey Kailwela44,That's the way,planning amd more planning.An old carpenter saying Measure twice and cut once.Intake and exhaust is the big thing to look at.More air intake then you need is good,you dont want to have redesign it after it's builded.Heat is a big problem inclosed spaces.The sounds of things you need more air intake and exhaust.Rule of thumb is the intake is two time bigger than the exhaust.Witch means intake is 6"x8" then the exhaust would be 12"x16".You can use cfl's for the mother plant.Less heat to deal with and she will grow just find with cfls.Anyway here's a few pixs of my cab it's a ebb&flood cab.If I can help just give me a hollar. Keep up the good work and research it will take you along ways.Peace

kailiwela44 · #7 (**permalink**) 09-02-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tokecrazy

Hey Kailwela44,That's the way,planning amd more planning.An old carpenter saying Measure twice and cut once.Intake and exhaust is the big thing to look at.More air intake then you need is good,you dont want to have redesign it after it's builded.Heat is a big problem inclosed spaces.The sounds of things you need more air intake and exhaust.Rule of thumb is the intake is two time bigger than the exhaust.Witch means intake is 6"x8" then the exhaust would be 12"x16".You can use cfl's for the mother plant.Less heat to deal with and she will grow just find with cfls.Anyway here's a few pixs of my cab it's a ebb&flood cab.If I can help just give me a hollar. Keep up the good work and research it will take you along ways.Peace

Tokecrazy,
The way you have your wardrobe cab set up. Do you suck in all the intake air on the bottom right corner? And everything is exhausted on the top right out into the box above? Do you exhaust everything from your cool tube?

kailiwela44 · #8 (**permalink**) 09-02-2008, 08:44 PM

For intake and exhaust set up i have a couple ideas
1. mom/clone/veg side i'll have four 80mm (29cfm) cpu fans exhausting into the extra space.
For intake i'll cut twice as many holes on the flooring, passive, and have a circ fan blowing on the moms. I still wont have any division between moms and clones. The exhaust fans will run 24/7. Or i can have the same number/size holes, but two passive and two forced intake.
2. For the flower chamber. Intake will be passive similar to mom/veg/clone section, but exhausted through the light. Circ fan under the light for air circ. The exhaust fan will run constant throughout lights on, and 30min on then 1hr off during lights off.

kailiwela44 · #9 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 04:00 AM

is a 150w HPS ideal for this? it's 20" deep. or can i stick with the 250 like i originally planned?

If i go 150, can i just use a batwing reflector and vent the entire space with a Lasko blower?

Should i stick it out with the 250 w/supernova hood?
Hmmm. I think if i can get this resolved it should help me plan my ventilation.

thanks,
kailiwela44

tokecrazy · #10 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 07:07 AM

Hey Kaliwela44,Yes you are right about my intake and I do exhaust out of the cab through the top out a vent.I use a cool tube for small spaces to keep the temps down and in a small space it put out light all over the plants and is reflected all over the cab.Anytime you grow in a close space you need air cooled lights and a good fan to pull the heat out of the cab.PM me,I have a place to buy fans cheap and they are very good fans.I have two working with both 400watt lights I run,and they keep it cool too.I have a plan for a dark room vent that you can build and they are easy to make too.Well I got to go to work but I'll be back on tonight.If you need any help just hollar. Peace

E=MC2rd · #11 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tokecrazy

Hey Kaliwela44,Yes you are right about my intake and I do exhaust out of the cab through the top out a vent.I use a cool tube for small spaces to keep the temps down and in a small space it put out light all over the plants and is reflected all over the cab.Anytime you grow in a close space you need air cooled lights and a good fan to pull the heat out of the cab.PM me,I have a place to buy fans cheap and they are very good fans.I have two working with both 400watt lights I run,and they keep it cool too.I have a plan for a dark room vent that you can build and they are easy to make too.Well I got to go to work but I'll be back on tonight.If you need any help just hollar. Peace

Hey Toke,

After seeing your cab, I am rethinking my plans. I must have started over 5-6 times each time I see something different. I had planned to build a cab 2X4X8 ft with two sections stacked 6 ft grow on bottom 2 ft mechanical on top, however, after seeing yours, I like your plan better. The one question I have and didn,t see in your cab is odor control. Do you have any filters in there I couldn,t see?

jangel · #12 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by E=MC2rd

Hey Toke,

After seeing your cab, I am rethinking my plans. I must have started over 5-6 times each time I see something different. I had planned to build a cab 2X4X8 ft with two sections stacked 6 ft grow on bottom 2 ft mechanical on top, however, after seeing yours, I like your plan better. The one question I have and didn,t see in your cab is odor control. Do you have any filters in there I couldn,t see?

Hey E=, PM him, he might miss this and is at work now, buddy.

He would want you to.

Peace

kailiwela44 · #13 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 05:00 AM

I finally was able to see what the top of the super nova hood looks like...after reading over 20+ pages from another forum. So i have the flower side figured out. The plan is like before...250hps in a air cooled super nova hood, exhausted by the lasko stanley blower into a DIY carbon filter out of the grow cab. To hide th filter i'll probably throw some crap...i meant junk in front of it. Passive intake...waiting for the DIY darkroom vents plans...no rush.
As for the vegatation side. Instead of the T5 i'll stick with cfls. Since the veg side will house both mothers, clones, and vegging clones, i'll have to redesign the plans. I may even be able to chop the height in half and add the dryer room i hoped to get. For now, my current idea for the non flower side is similar to the rubbermaid--as far as light set up goes. But enough of that for now. i'll plan then discuss.

aloha `ahi`ahi (good night),
kailiwela44

kailiwela44 · #14 (**permalink**) 09-14-2008, 01:11 AM

this is what i came up with. still gotta figure out my exhaust fo flower. i'm thinking panasonic whisper 100cfm w/diy carbon filter

kailiwela44

tokecrazy · #15 (**permalink**) 09-14-2008, 10:19 AM

Hey E=MC2rd,Sorry I didnt get back to you earler,but working the weekens for extra cash has wore me out and I go to bed before the chickens.Yes to your queston there is some carbon filters in the top of the cab{top right}behind the wood you see.It exhausts out the top.Here's sa pix of the intake air dark room vent with the front off so you can see it.You can make them out of anything{cardborad,wood,ect}and they work great at keeping light out and letting air in.Heat in a cab is the hardest to over come,but you can beat it,and that's half the battle.If I dont answer you post it's cause I didnt see it,sorry sometimes I'am slow.But if you really need just PM me and I will get to it right after I read the PM. Peace

kailiwela44 · #16 (**permalink**) 09-14-2008, 11:48 PM

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PFC Stone · #17 (**permalink**) 07-18-2009, 10:00 PM

Very helpful! Thanks for sharing.