Hey all... I know I'm new here, but don't fear... I guess I'm supposed to first post in the intro sec. but I had to find out if anyone else in my area saw this.
I'm from the Bay (obviously; name) and around 4:20 yesterday, I was chillin' @ my gf's house burnin' 1, and we heard this strange noise which sounded like very heavy machinery, like an oversized truck or train... I looked up in the sky and saw about 5 military choppers in the sky flying above (very low; about 4000ish ft. or so). They were flying towards my neighborhood next, and whipped around in a circle and did a fly-by around the south-eastern section of our city. I might not have thought anything about it normally, but there were @ least 5 of these mother's and they were flying hella deep above residential zones.
I've also noticed a HUGE(cannot stress enough) increase in low-flying prop-engine and heli traffic in the area this year... WOndering if it's something that has been happening just around here and maybe the rest of Nor-Cal or throughout the state. I'm not sayin' it's CAMP, but I thought there would be less traffic w/ the supposed lack of resources/money that the state would need...

update: 1 paramilitary chopper just flew about 2000 ft. above my house right now and hovered in the area, and another helicopter (looks non-military) was trailing by 30 sec. or so & is circling the neighborhood...and I'm almost sure it wasn't a news heli because they don't usually fly so low... and there are no airports open to civilian access for miles... No one else has been seeing an increase in heli traffic where they live? This just doesn't seem like an area CAMP would bother with, and my city is Bankrupt, with a county operating in a huge defecit, in a broke state. What in the hell could it be?

Hi there,

There are only about a dozen members online right at this moment. So give this thread some time and local folks to you will likely tell you if they see something. I hope all is okay.

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Thx... I might just be paranoid, but with what seems like an increase in raids in Cali... Maybe it's justified. I just don't understand where the money would be coming from to conduct these operations.

i know the other day a bunch of dispensaries in SoCal got raided because they were operating on Permits with the city, some doing back-door dealings, some of them are within areas that people want to classify as dispensary-free areas. by this i pretty much mean within a certain distance of a school, or maybe a residence, or possibly have to get permission from local authorities to have that kind of business there.

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I'm gonna guess that they are testing equipment to detect grows in suburbia.

So, it's prolly the Feds.

Just a guess, though.

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The operations usually more than pay for themselves since if they find illegal cultivation activity whether it's county, stateys or feds they can confiscate the property/vehicles/equipment/cash reserves of anyone whose property was deemed to be involved in the operation in any way. That means if you're growing in a house that belongs to you or your parents or a friend they can take the house because you were growing! The housing market's not great these days but they can still flip the houses for below market price and it's 100% profit after they pay for the fuel for the helicopters and the PD man hours.

These operations are money makers not money sinks, when they find what they're looking for, which is cultivation being done by someone who has something they can take, like a lot of cash, vehicles or property. That's why the helis fly over the houses in the county more than warehouses in the city. Besides, high heat in a warehouse could be a lot of things, it's a commercial space. But also, it's because it's easier to steal a private individual's house than it is to steal a commercial space from some real estate company or leasing agency. Besides we all know that to the government the real businesses are the good guys and the real people are the bad guys.

The drug war is part of the military industrial complex and the prison industrial complex, it makes the government money in all sorts of ways. Politicians are addicted to drug war funding and if they don't use up the budget they got this year to fight the drug war they know they might not get as much next year, and they might not get as many perks from taser manufacturers and arms dealers and private prison and pharmaceutical company reps...

These operations make lots and lots of money for the government while stealing it from the people. That is where the money for these operations is coming from. It's coming right out of your pocket in the form of taxation without representation and in the form of illegal confiscations of property from people like you.

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Great explanation brother, 100% accurate. I've been watching documentaries (type in "Cannabis Documentary" on Google Video) all week long about the drug war and it sickening what these psychopaths are doing to innocent people. The DEA and most police are completely brainwashed by government propaganda. We are the enemy in their eyes and some of them even think we are aiding the "terrorists".

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They are getting the people used to Marshall law. Today low flying surveillance, tomorrow armed personnel carriers rolling up and down our city streets, jack booted thugs kicking in innocent peoples doors for reasons unexplained, random road blocks asking for saliva swabs or blood samples. Delta force will be our local law enforcement watching the people, not watching over the people. All under the pretense of national security
That is unless Pres Obama gets his national security force that is funded equally to our present day military. Those are his words, not mine. Perhaps that will be another branch of ACORN or Brown Shirts . If this comes to fruition then we will really have a dictatorship with little or no resistance from the brainwashed lemmings & bootlickers. You don't think this can happen? Ask a Jewish person about the Weimar Republic and what happened to the people in this moment of time. A mirror image to whats happing here with the 21st century version of that 1930s iconic figure. He spoke well, was charismatic and made changes also. Those ****ing helicopters are always flying over our area also, I am about 9 hours north I-5 from the bay. The news said 40,000 plants were found down by Ashland, last week I think. They always exaggerate! Illegal aliens from Mexico. Another helicopter bust.

[QUOTE=Naturelover;141851]The operations usually more than pay for themselves since if they find illegal cultivation activity whether it's county, stateys or feds they can confiscate the property/vehicles/equipment/cash reserves of anyone whose property was deemed to be involved in the operation in any way. That means if you're growing in a house that belongs to you or your parents or a friend they can take the house because you were growing! The housing market's not great these days but they can still flip the houses for below market price and it's 100% profit after they pay for the fuel for the helicopters and the PD man hours....[/QUOTE That's only true if you make a profit (sell). They can't take anything other than growing equipment etc. if you're just growing for your own use. Peace, Tex

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Who's watching the cops?

I've been away sick for awhile, (I've also been repairing this infected computer for a few weeks straight) and couldn't update, but this is how the streets around here have been looking lately... Police State Much? There were more around, but I couldn't snap 'em... Odd how since we've been losing cops in my city (no money; early retirees [gotta love those benefits]), we've been seeing more & more...

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Yikes!

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Thanks for that and bump.

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