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11-15-2009, 10:59 AM
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I posted this in a different thread but sprocket suggested I put it here. I was thinking there could be some auto e-mail or something sent out to members if there was ever a security breach or a warrant served for member records. Maybe it could be some dumb e-mail about something totally non related. I know that a friend of mine used to say that if he ever called me to ask if i could let his dogs out for him that meant the cops were there and they are coming my way... that was back before we had the new law in this state. Maybe the e-mail could be an ad for a new car, or a recall notice for something? Thought it would be a good idea to let people know that they need to get legal quick if something happens.
Just a thought, thanks for the time.
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11-15-2009, 11:00 AM
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Then what? We post it here?
Kinda kills the "secret" part of "secret code", doesn't it?
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11-15-2009, 11:04 AM
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well... you had to sign up with an e-mail address right? maybe set it up independent of here and just send it to all the members e-mail, something that would look innocent enough but we would know what it means... its a general idea, in need of some refinement obviously.
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11-16-2009, 01:44 AM
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I think its a great idea man. im 100% legal in my state but the whole federal gov sucks azzzz. I know that when it happened to other sites it would have been a good idea to have that in place. In the end if they want to get you; they will.
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11-16-2009, 02:45 AM
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If in the event of a security breech, it would be prudent of the staff to notify all members of the current situation.
My credit union recently sent out a notice of a security breech.
A good friend responded, signed up for a free credit check and provided all the required info.
I waited to go into the office and speak with them in person.
It turned out to be a scam, those who went on line and accepted the "free credit check" as well as providing personel info, pin #, passwords & SSN included, were informed by the credit union that they were already exposed to current and future identy theft. It was a scam from the start, there was no security breech.
I would hate to see members rip up their grow, flush their harvest and spend $$$$ purchasing African Violets to justify their equipment, only to find out it was a false alarm.
Then again, if it was real,,,,, I would hate to see no alarm sent out.
This is an interesting subject, worthy of further discussion.
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11-16-2009, 03:30 AM
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I've got to reply to this to keep the thread alive. It's obviously not a must-do, but would be a really neat and appreciated move on the part of GP. I certainly don't want an answer now, I'd just appreciate you giving it some thought.
Peace,
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11-16-2009, 05:42 AM
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I have no problem doing it. But, it doesn't make any sense to me to use some sort of code. In the event of a true security issue, people will need real info, not some secret code that means something's wrong, but who knows what.
If it were me receiving such an email, I would want real info, not something that will make me log in to find out what's up (which might not be a good idea).
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11-16-2009, 07:17 AM
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the code thing was more for the owners and mods sake... the people that run the site are probably at most risk with a warrant, the rest of us would have time, hopefully enough, to clean up before the knock on the door comes. Like I said, its just a rough idea, needing some refinement. I know that I'm legal, but like was said before, the fed doesn't care and i don't want to do fed time either. whatever you think is best I suppose, something to get the point across. There would need to be some notification level I guess, on if it was just a snooping hacker, or if there was an actual threat to members from law enforcement...
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11-16-2009, 09:06 AM
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They are always watching you...so...when you are not doing anything ya gotta feel pretty good about it.
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11-17-2009, 12:04 AM
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Rep Power: 500 | | Well, first of all GreenPassion does not sell anything illegal, and we are not a store front for a seed bank.
All we provide is information and a forum with which to share our knowledge and experiences. Cannabis related or not.
Try as they might... The government hasn't completely killed freedom of speech. They have no business trying to subpoena anything here...
A mass e-mail and mass PM feature IS installed in vBulletin. The admins here can PM everyone on the forums or send an e-mail to everyone at the addy that you used to register your account. If the e-mail is still valid, you will get the message.
Also... It would be simple enough for one of us admins to shut down the site and leave a message to "Run like Hell" where it would normally say we're testing some functionality or performing site upgrades.
You would see that as soon as you tried to come here. You couldn't even log on if we shut the forum down.
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11-17-2009, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by snickelfritz Well, first of all GreenPassion does not sell anything illegal, and we are not a store front for a seed bank. All we provide is information and a forum with which to share our knowledge and experiences. Cannabis related or not. Try as they might... The government hasn't completely killed freedom of speech. They have no business trying to subpoena anything here... A mass e-mail and mass PM feature IS installed in vBulletin. The admins here can PM everyone on the forums or send an e-mail to everyone at the addy that you used to register your account. If the e-mail is still valid, you will get the message. Also... It would be simple enough for one of us admins to shut down the site and leave a message to "Run like Hell" where it would normally say we're testing some functionality or performing site upgrades. You would see that as soon as you tried to come here. You couldn't even log on if we shut the forum down. | Is your IP followable if your off line?
If the sight was shut down dose it leave our IP intact?
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11-17-2009, 01:49 AM
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If the sight was shut down dose it leave our IP intact?
| Yes. It's in the database.
Anyone who is worried about being one of millions of people who use a cannabis forum probably should be behind a proxy or shouldn't be here, at all.
The bottom line is simple: if you really care about your privacy, don't go online - ever. Any feeling of security experienced online is an illusion.
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11-17-2009, 01:59 AM
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You know what? This whole thread doesn't make sense. If there was a "security breach", wouldn't that most likely mean we are no longer in control of the site? I guess it depends on what you mean when you say "security breach". That could mean a lot of things. But, if such a thing were a full-blown emergency, I don't think we would be able to use the site, itself, to send messages to members. We certainly couldn't do it securely or with any confidence.
If it's a minor thing, it will be posted in the forums. If it's major, it will be impossible to tell people anything, at all. And, if I'm right, that means there's nothing to be served by coming up with a prearranged signal for members. However, such a thing might be construed as some sort of conspiracy to subvert or derail criminal investigations. I could see that happening.
Also, wouldn't they be more interested in the site-owners than the members, generally speaking? They would certainly start with them and take control of the server, first. After that, there's no way to do anything.
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11-17-2009, 03:03 AM
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Michael, that's why it would be better to think about it; we certainly don't want anyone at GP in trouble either. Quote:
Originally Posted by operator1 ...maybe set it up independent of here and just send it to all the members e-mail...its a general idea, in need of some refinement obviously. | There may or may not be a way to do it without youse guys getting in trouble; a bit of thinking over time may reveal an answer. I'll leave it at that, we've asked, that's all we can do.
THANKS,
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11-17-2009, 03:11 AM
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Missed the "independent of here" part. Thanks for pointing it out.
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11-17-2009, 03:21 AM
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and on top of everything, if you are growing illegally, the federal government has a minimum of 50 plants before it falls in there jurisdiction.
I also think that with all the new administration decisions that have been happening, those that are just growing for personal probably aren't high on anyone list...
just a few thoughts from a no body.....
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11-17-2009, 03:23 AM
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100 plants, actually. The speed limit is 99.
As far as I know, the gov't has never gone after growers on a forum just because they posted there. It takes more than that.
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11-17-2009, 03:31 AM
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oh, even better... lol
my info must be old. I did a few years in the feds once upon a time for charges other than the most useful plant on the earth. In my oppinion anyway. I met quite a few people at the time that said as long as I stay under that limit I would be fine.
thanks for the info,I will definately store that away...
peace...
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11-17-2009, 11:55 AM
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I'm confused, 1 plant, 100 plants, your sill growing pot
1 plant doesn't make you any safer or secret then a 100. (well kinda)
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11-17-2009, 04:35 PM
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its a federal guideline for when it becomes big enough for the DEA to deal with. Anything less than 100 can still be dealt with by the state. That is for growing plants only though...if they catch you with ten plants and two lbs. then you may still have federal charges cause of the amount of useable herb. Not really sure what the weight is that makes it federal, but I'm not that big to worry either.
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