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12-12-2008, 03:23 PM
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Hello Folks. After some deep thought and fast typing I have contacted vid and we have settled our differences. This has gotten way out of hand and frankly, it was totally needless. That is unimportant now, and all I want is to sleep in peace without waking up panicking thinking GP has been taken down. This now will never happen.
Green Passion's domain name is now ours.
BUT it cost me dearly.
I can live with that. Although now it is Christmas and gifts will be scarce.
I too have kids and family. But hey, I have faith in the Universe and that all will work out the way it should.
We can now live in peace and not fear any hijinxes from anyone
Several of you have offered donations and if you could please come through for us now, it will not have to all come from me.
Just PM me and we can go from there.
Thank you one and all for all the support and good wishes you have sent.
I love you all,
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12-12-2008, 06:18 PM
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HEY folks we are all maxxed out and committed to the debts we incur.So you need to know,We are setting this site up as a NON-PROFIT,all monies collected go towards the operating costs of this site and ADVERTISING.Any and all MONIES left over WILL be donated to MMP & NORML etc.
Thank you for your Love & Support
Peace
jonny
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12-12-2008, 08:52 PM
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Good going you two,now there's peace on GP.Ok poeple we need a little help with the funds guys,so if you can chip in.I know it's xmas and work is thin and moeny is to.I know this so well at the end of next week I'am most likely to be layed off.We all pull together we can do it. Peace
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12-13-2008, 01:16 AM
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Im sorry and i know jangel and johnny are only doing what they can to preserve the site as it is but this is a ****in liberty man,outright extortion at its best,Vid sells you guys your share in the site then decides to make you "pay a dear COST" for something you already bought,theres a snake in the grass and i aint smoking that shit,full respect to j & j but Vid wants his cake and eat it and TBH if he had any dignity he would "fall on his sword" sell ME his share via a 3rd party and be exiled for pulling that shit,that aint me flaming,just my two pennies on what IMHO is a lowdown thing to do to two of your longtime serving mods/members and i assure y'all THAT shit would never happen at growkind or anywhere else for that matter.
Jangel and Johnny id just have changed the name to .com and started getting medicinal strain sponsers instead of affiliate sponsers,they guarantee money ,thats the potential i saw,change your server to a dutch or UK one and advertise seedbanks,etc.This leaves a bad taste in my mouth,maybe it is cos im realising that if it had been ME that went for the deal id be the one sorting all this shit out,BAD KARMA MAN!Just my opinion.Vid i dont know how you could even show your face round here after pulling al the shit you pull  .For all who think im being harsh,think of janegl hoping for dontions cos Vid has held her to ****in RANSOM for the name that they ALREADY bought when they bought into the site...you dont rip of your own man,that sucks.Vid you owe the whole site an apology and should freely GIVE the domain name away,you might even have got a cut of the site if you hadnt been so greedy... or was that what cost jangel dearly?Does knowone else have shit to say about the fact Vid acted like this????I got a warm bed with a dvd and a woman to catch..see y'all in the morning.Peace
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12-13-2008, 01:52 AM
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At ease mr apprentice, it appears mr. appleweed and ms. angel have things worked out and I assure you the people who frequent this forum are more than a little upset about the site being held hostage and will also pitch in to help curb the extra expenses. It's a bummer deal, but it is done. Have a bowl and enjoy the movie.
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12-13-2008, 09:09 AM
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Thank you everyone for your support and help. I did this to end the suspicion and drama. I appreciate your support Mrapprentice, and WB. It is done and fairly delt with, so let us move on now, and just take care of ourselves.
And hey, to me, it is worth it, just for the peace. Money is just a means to an end, not THE end. At least in my mind. We got what we wanted and so did he, that is it. Both parties are equatably satisfied.
Peace, all, Peace.
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12-13-2008, 11:50 AM
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mr apprentice, chill man, its over.
hehehe
i dont like it a much as anyone else, but really we must move on and not dwell on the past.
i really appreciate what J AND J have done FOR US. it was a show of pure dedication to the site and especially to the peolpe that use it. because it would be a realloss for us to disband this wonderfull family.
plus if they didnt do it, who would i have dedicated my future work to anyway?
hehehe
i probably would have dedicated it to some beautiful lady that has been a real help to us all and especially to me, even though i dont personally know her.
peace to all
and merry xmas one of these days...
ah jangle THANKYOU VERY VERY MUC FOR TAKING AWAY THAT THING I HAD UNDER MY NAME....
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12-13-2008, 12:41 PM
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Dude, I am sick of your non stop whining, and judging by the emails I've gottemn, so are alot of the members here too. you continueto harbor bad feelings towards me, because reality is you couldnt raise the money needed in a timely fashion and god knows, I gave you plenty of time to do so, several months in fact of my time I allowed you to waste, doing nothing but play games with me.
Your silly letter of intent that you keep bringing up makes me sick to hear your lies, you know the letter would have cost more to have an attorney draft up, than the site cost and you REFUSED to pay for it.
I told you on many occassions to go ahead and have it written up at your expence, you never did.
This begs the question WHY? and the answer is easy, you had NO money and as such no right to even be trying to make a deal with me.
You tried to borrow the money from webby and you couldnt even do that in a timely fashion, and I gave you several months.
So now here you are kissing J and J's ass in the hopes of stealing a piece from them, so you can profit from selling the members here seeds, good luck with that act. Leave them alone and let them prosper.
So far as J and J and myself are concerned, as distasteful as it may seem, the three of us had a deal, and Lived to the letter of the deal, simple as that.
As this holiday season is approaching, your attitude is over whelming and I surely hope that karma does not turn around and kick you in the ass.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Apprentice Im sorry and i know jangel and johnny are only doing what they can to preserve the site as it is but this is a ****in liberty man,outright extortion at its best,Vid sells you guys your share in the site then decides to make you "pay a dear COST" for something you already bought,theres a snake in the grass and i aint smoking that shit,full respect to j & j but Vid wants his cake and eat it and TBH if he had any dignity he would "fall on his sword" sell ME his share via a 3rd party and be exiled for pulling that shit,that aint me flaming,just my two pennies on what IMHO is a lowdown thing to do to two of your longtime serving mods/members and i assure y'all THAT shit would never happen at growkind or anywhere else for that matter.
Jangel and Johnny id just have changed the name to .com and started getting medicinal strain sponsers instead of affiliate sponsers,they guarantee money ,thats the potential i saw,change your server to a dutch or UK one and advertise seedbanks,etc.This leaves a bad taste in my mouth,maybe it is cos im realising that if it had been ME that went for the deal id be the one sorting all this shit out,BAD KARMA MAN!Just my opinion.Vid i dont know how you could even show your face round here after pulling al the shit you pull  .For all who think im being harsh,think of janegl hoping for dontions cos Vid has held her to ****in RANSOM for the name that they ALREADY bought when they bought into the site...you dont rip of your own man,that sucks.Vid you owe the whole site an apology and should freely GIVE the domain name away,you might even have got a cut of the site if you hadnt been so greedy... or was that what cost jangel dearly?Does knowone else have shit to say about the fact Vid acted like this????I got a warm bed with a dvd and a woman to catch..see y'all in the morning.Peace | | 
12-13-2008, 01:25 PM
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thanks Jonny and Jangel, im glad its all smoothed out. i did not ever get the full story (nor do I really want to), but I'm glad it all turned out.
i just wanted to say one thing.....let us all remember who started this great site. i know there have been some problems with the transfer, and perhaps some relationships ruined.... but videoman did bring us all together. he still has a wealth of knowledge, and should still be given his credit. he was nice to me personally all the time. i just hope he is not turned away from this site from some threads that have popped up. lets put the past in the past, and just grow some dank weed eh? puff puff pass my friends
Much Love,
The Friendly DieAbetic
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12-13-2008, 01:33 PM
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hey vid, chill as well man, really.. its over, please no more.
no-one hates you, i personally dont make a habit of hating anyone i dont know personally. and you have been a great help to me in my grows over the last manths as well... so please. can we just leave it at that?
ppl dont have to like each other, and everyone has their diferences. but war is ugly, so are word when put together in certain ways..
ok Vid? ok Mr A?
really i reckon your are both cool ppl. lets not sadden my flower child heart any longer with this ok... lots of places you can direct your animosities.. like for exAmPLE, certain goverments, certain laws etc that force us under the cover of darkness... all sorts of REAL injustices out there....
PEACE TO BOTH
dont eat TOO many mushrooms come XMAS
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12-13-2008, 01:33 PM
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And I thought I had problems with my monkey smokin too much  stop or I will become an 
and then....     :beatdown :
Where is the monkey??
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12-13-2008, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dursky And I thought I had problems with my monkey smokin too much  stop or I will become an 
and then....     :beatdown :
Where is the monkey?? | Snickelfritz fired the damn monkey, and the flickering bong, and the flashing acid pattern, due to overwhelming requests!!! LOL! And so we have the leaves now denoting member posts..... It looks better i think, what about you, dursky?
.....You said the monkey scared you! LOL!
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12-13-2008, 01:55 PM
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Rep Power: 500 | | It is a shame that things didn't go smoothly. I hope that all parties concerned can get past that BS & move on. Let's not let simple misunderstandings get in the way of the friendships and respect for each other we've enjoyed before. 
The user ranks have been replaced with something that makes a little more sense than all those pics. There is a structure to it now. I hope everyone likes it better. If you don't... :moon: LOL :bouncy:
Also, the smiley inventory has grown. More will be added to the mix as time permits.  
Peace
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12-13-2008, 02:05 PM
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Yes, thank you Snick, it is time to MOVE ON to positive things.
Enough Drama! We are not into that, everyone.
That is part of the reason we all feel so at home here.
Lack of drama, so let us end it now.
It is done now, and every one,
Live in Peace and remember what we truely are about!
Fighting unjust laws, not each other!
This site is about Growth and Progression, not looking back.
Shit happens in even the best of families, it is past,
and now we move on and build.
Peace everyone. Enough hating on past friends.
Only positive thoughts guys.
And also, thanks Snick, for all your hard work.
So glad you all are here.
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12-13-2008, 02:37 PM
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personally i love the new banner things.. thanks to whoever did it... the acid thing was freaking me out, i almost stopped posting so as i wouldnt see it
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12-13-2008, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ileso personally i love the new banner things.. thanks to whoever did it... the acid thing was freaking me out, i almost stopped posting so as i wouldnt see it | Yes, it makes it all look more elegant somehow.
Suits my artistic need for simplicity and balance, more zen like.
LOL! I like it a lot snick.
Thanks for doing it for us.
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12-13-2008, 03:36 PM
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Jangel and Jonnyappleweed are the owners of the site. They make the decisions here.
I am a moderator. I work for them.
My admin status is mainly for tech support.
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12-13-2008, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ileso mr apprentice, chill man, its over.
hehehe
i dont like it a much as anyone else, but really we must move on and not dwell on the past.
i really appreciate what J AND J have done FOR US. it was a show of pure dedication to the site and especially to the peolpe that use it. because it would be a realloss for us to disband this wonderfull family.
plus if they didnt do it, who would i have dedicated my future work to anyway?
hehehe
i probably would have dedicated it to some beautiful lady that has been a real help to us all and especially to me, even though i dont personally know her.
peace to all
and merry xmas one of these days...
ah jangle THANKYOU VERY VERY MUC FOR TAKING AWAY THAT THING I HAD UNDER MY NAME.... | ileso i 100% agree and that TBH that last post was my initial outrage at hearing j and j's posts along with certain 'differences in opinion' me and Vid had on the same deal regarding buying GP,thats my final :2c: on the subject as a mod i heed your advice,i keep in touch other GP members/mods like jangel and some other nameless mods here(not snick at all BTW,we dont talk GP 'TALK' PERIOD!) who are GP mods via email and it just left a bad taste in my mouth.I got the upmost respect for jangel and johnny and wish the all the best and i will be here to contribute and support the site,even donations when i can,also congratulations on becoming a mod,the pays not great but its good to be part of a tight mod squad as snick and me can testify and im sure you will soon be able to aswell cos the mods here at GP seem cool. I have no more to say on the whole Vid thing ileso,your a mod now and where i come from you take a mods 'friendly advice' as a warning of sorts not to further instigate the topic so i will respect you for that,besides i didnt become a mod elsehwee like yourself for being a liar or a troll,etc.KUDOS AMIGO. PS: I only have one short reply to the post that followed yours and no matter what the subjects dead and buried,i feel i have a right to respond to slanderous comments thats all but thats the end and lets all move on,me and Vid just need to ignore each other thats all,i respect your 1st action as a mod.Peace Quote: |
Originally Posted by Videoman #1:Dude, I am sick of your non stop whining, and judging by the emails I've gottemn, so are alot of the members here too. you continueto harbor bad feelings towards me, because reality is you couldnt raise the money needed in a timely fashion and god knows, I gave you plenty of time to do so, several months in fact of my time I allowed you to waste, doing nothing but play games with me. #2:This begs the question WHY? and the answer is easy, you had NO money and as such no right to even be trying to make a deal with me. You tried to borrow the money from webby and you couldnt even do that in a timely fashion, and I gave you several months.So now here you are kissing J and J's ass in the hopes of stealing a piece from them, so you can profit from selling the members here seeds, good luck with that act. Leave them alone and let them prosper. | #1:Vid im over it and you wont hear no more from me,IM SO LAID BACK IM HORIZONTAL MATE,ASK ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME,lifes too short and karma sees all is well in the end,i wish you well and end of,just to reply to your querie /accusations though,respectively Vid you DID give me plenty time but also during that time there was another interested paty whom i thought you were concluding business with and secondly during all that time you still never showed me proof of ownership,any relevant info except your paypal account,i wont bore you by sending you ALL our correspondance but iv read it over Vid and there was too many red flags,thats all and i will say no more on the topic #2: Vid the cash was there,webmaster at growkind offered it to me on a plate as snick can vouch but due to the fact i couldnt give webby the answers he was looking for due to the lack of info from you i didnt want to take a chane with mmy boss's hard earned cash,he offered me the cash and to buy the site and leave it as it is with the same ppl in charge,the money was ALWAYS there Vid so i strongly refute that,all said,its over and done with,as for all the GP members who are complaining to Vid in email/PM about me im sorry if iv offended but Vid painted a picture of me and he sorry not quite true,theres two sides to every story as we all know,im happy to share my side with any of the GP-ers that are annoyed by what i had to say,im a stand up guy (or webby/herb/snick and the GK mod squad would never have voted me mod,they KNOW i was 100% GENUINE in my dealings with you from what i posted in the admin forum) and i would never purposely take Vid or ANYONE for that matter on a merry dance,the CASH WAS THERE.PERIOD.Even without webbys generous offer i STILL had the cash in place.But thats JUST my side Vid,you have yours and lets leave it be,i aint a whiner mate so drop it and keep our differences of the forums as ileso rightly suggests,lead by example and i'll follow.Thats all folks.AMEN PS: I have NEVER and will NEVER ask ANYONE at this site to buy seeds from me ,my seedshop or future online seedbusiness as GP is a non profit making site,although if they needed an affiliate sponser like the ons they have and i was in a position to do so yes i would to help GP.Please dont slur my name saying im here to profit from J and J,im here as a member purely,as its nice to not alays be the mod and sometimes just be a imple meneber plus i know a lot of ppl here and like the vibes.Peace y'all
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