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08-12-2008, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Herbsparky Great article..... Why the drug war is a crime against humanity explained in plain English
By Carmen Yarrusso
Online Journal Guest Writer "It’s impossible to reason people out of something they have never been reasoned into." --Jonathan Swift
Like the Iraq war and the “war on terror,” the so-called “drug war” is a government contrived “war” based on lies that generate massive profits for a few while causing massive suffering for many.
The drug war is futile by design (and thus never-ending) because it doesn’t “fight” drugs -- quite the contrary -- it strongly encourages production and distribution of prohibited drugs by guaranteeing extremely high profits.
But the most insidious and evil aspect of the drug war is it manufactures its own enemies by criminalizing the most basic of human rights -- the right of sovereignty over your own body. The drug war could not exist without first inventing a bogus crime.
Our government wastes billions of tax dollars each year harassing and jailing millions of decent, productive Americans for a government-invented “crime.” The use of drugs (even dangerous drugs like alcohol and nicotine) simply doesn’t meet any reasonable definition of “crime.”
Real crime requires action that harms another. Real crime requires both a victim and a perpetrator. For example, robbery harms another and has both a victim and a perpetrator. Only a corrupt, depraved government could invent a crime you commit against yourself.
If you use certain drugs, our government claims you’re both a criminal and a victim at the same time. Since the perpetrator can’t be separated from the victim, the victim is further punished for the “crime.” This pathetic perversion of justice is vigorously championed by our government for selfish political reasons.
More than 50 government agencies share billions of your tax dollars each year “fighting” a government-created crime. Of the millions of illegal drug users, the vast majority use marijuana. If marijuana were legal like alcohol, these government agencies would suddenly lose billions of dollars because millions of former “criminals” would suddenly be granted sovereignty over their own bodies. The vast army amassed to fight the drug war would need to be dissolved at great cost.
That’s why our government strongly opposes even honest debate about marijuana legalization because this massive money-making scam would soon end.
Ingesting nicotine, alcohol, fatty foods, or certain drugs may be unwise. But why is it a crime? If a drug user or a non-drug user harms another they should be treated equally. But the bogus “crime” of drug use doesn’t require harming anyone. Nor does it require a victim and a perpetrator. It only requires a government-invented, bogus criminal/victim, a drug user.
By using lies and deception our government convinces gullible Americans that simply putting something into your own body is a serious crime. But evidence clearly shows that nearly all the harm associated with drug use is caused by creating the bogus crime, not from the actual drug use. There are millions of drug users, but relatively few are harmed by their drug use. These few should be patients, not criminals.
But it’s not just the millions arrested for drug use who suffer from this gross injustice. We gullible Americans have allowed our government to invent a bogus crime that causes massive misery worldwide while costing the taxpayers billions.
Consider the following list of easily avoidable human tragedies that are the direct result of a government-invented, bogus crime: A tax-free, unregulated, multi-billion dollar drug industry necessarily run by violent criminals; a giant law enforcement bureaucracy wasting billions in a futile attempt to curtail this drug industry, which, in fact, guarantees its extreme profitability; a deteriorating public education system robbed of billions to support this law enforcement bureaucracy; courts and prisons overflowing with non-violent “criminals” while murderers, rapists and real criminals go free; tens of thousands of children enduring the suffering and stigma of having one or both parents in jail for a bogus “crime”; the gradual erosion of our Constitution as more and more civil liberties are sacrificed to fight a crime “made in USA”; rampant corruption of foreign governments (like Mexico and Columbia), so driven by US drug profits that life and human rights are secondary; thousands of adults and children infected and dying from HIV because distributing clean needles is a “crime”; violent street gangs with little incentive for education or legitimate jobs reaping huge drug profits made possible by a bogus crime; a growing death toll from police breaking down doors to catch people using substances less dangerous than tobacco, alcohol or fatty foods; a growing cynicism and disrespect for all laws and authority fueled by the knowledge our government can arbitrarily invent a bogus crime . . .
This sordid list goes on and on.
We’re appalled when Islamic regimes invent bogus crimes against reading certain books, or listening to certain music. Using certain drugs is our government’s version of the same thing. But the worldwide consequences of US drug prohibition are far more serious and severe. All of these “crimes” lack the moral basis of real crime. All are clear cases of a repressive government dictating the private personal behavior of its citizens.
If real crime is knowingly causing harm to others, then the real crime here is not drug use, but making drug use a “crime.” And the real criminals are not drug users, but ordinary people like us, who sit back and condone a ruthless scam that has been exported and exploited around the world leaving massive human suffering in its wake. | ...
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08-12-2008, 06:51 PM
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Someone figured it [Carmen Yarrusso] and someone needs the balls to print it in big letters
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08-12-2008, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by green_nobody Someone figured it [Carmen Yarrusso] and someone needs the balls to print it in big letters  |
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08-13-2008, 02:35 PM
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^^i thought not digital but on paper - Gutenberg style, nailed to the doors of the capitol and supreme court...
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08-13-2008, 02:42 PM
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Dont you think THEY already know all that info. From what I understand the war on pot ( when brought to the supreme court) always comes down to violating some interstate commerece law. Im not the sharpest pencil in the box, but doesnt that mean MONEY.
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Originally Posted by Fman Dont you think THEY already know all that info. From what I understand the war on pot ( when brought to the supreme court) always comes down to violating some interstate commerece law. Im not the sharpest pencil in the box, but doesnt that mean MONEY. | It's all about the money my friend.
Think about it.
A huge majority of the non-violent drug offenders are housed in Private prisons supported with Federal and State tax revenues. The more of us they arrest, the more folks get to go to another of the private prisons, and the CORPORATION that OWNS the prison gets another $50,000 - $75,000 a year to house them.
Do ya think the Corp's that own those prisons are going to just sit back while we empty out the prisons and end the huge stream of money going from our pockets into those corporations pockets?
The Gov't will claim that the companies can not lay afford to off 5000 prison guards, so guess what? If they lay them off (so our brethren can get out of jail!) then we will still be supporting them (guards) as they won't be able to find private sector jobs.
That's just one tiny part of the issue...the list of those impacted goes on and on...there would be a MAJOR financial impact to the US Gov't if MJ ever became legalized, HOWEVER, if the US Gov't was smart enough to tax retail sales of MJ then they could easily manage the shortfall.
They won't do it. I don't think they can.
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08-13-2008, 09:51 PM
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Rep Power: 500 | | What happened during the prohibition of alcohol?
Did they stop it? No.
Lots of folks were put in prisons for bootlegging...
Lots of folks were killed by bootleggers & cops alike...
Big money was tossed around on both sides...
Lots of folks (that didn't get dead) ended up rich... Or dirt poor.
Sound familiar?
It's the same with drugs.
By arbitrarily making something illegal, the government itself creates another black market, because people will continue to do what they want to do... Regardless of a stupid law.
The government gets another artificial "enemy" to fight. Requiring massive amounts of our tax dollars to fight this "enemy", further feeding the bureaucracy, and tightening their hold over us all.
More cops, more bureaucrats, more control over us, more, more, more...
Kids are killed in the streets, the schools, and even in their own homes by "gangstas" every day... Folks that wouldn't be dead if there wasn't some stupid law that never should have existed in the first place...
If drugs were to be decriminalized... or even legalized and accepted into society... The gangs and their "gangsta lifestyle" would fall apart... There would be no money in it... The street prices would be "shit".
There would be no need for about half the cops & other govt jobs out there...
The government created an artificial problem so they could bleed us dry and watch us die as they line their own pockets while pretending to be the solution.
The only real solution IS to legalize it.
Then it can be regulated, and even taxed. The deficit would shrink and the economy would eventually get better, and grow.
People could simply walk into a corner drug store & get whatever they want at 1/10th the prices previously paid on the street. Without having to worry about some thug jacking them... Some undercover pig busting them... Or WTF is really in that bag they're risking your ass to get.
People are going to smoke weed, do crack, shrooms, meth, etc. no matter what ignorant laws get passed. It is a total waste of time and money.
Instead of wasting BILLIONS of dollars each year fighting a stupid and impossible to win "war on drugs" they could make revenue off of it. Instead, they seek to control us more. Erode our rights... And destroy our society from within.
Think about that.
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08-13-2008, 10:51 PM
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What Im about to say is my opinion. There SHOULD be a war on drugs. You ever been strung out on crack, or know sombody that has od'ed on smack. How about all the meth labs that people have died in. These are dangerous drugs and the GOVT. should do something about them. Prison sentences should be very stiff for people that deal in thoes substances. On the other hand medical marijuana is a different story. The Govt. should respect the laws passed by the people in the states that have medical laws.
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Soon America will complete the cycle. The same cycle the Romans, the Persians, the French, the Spaniards, the Brits, etc. completed. An empire is born. It is healthy and vital so long as it GROWS. When growth gives way to decadance and greed, the empire stagnates. Soon the many cry out to the few to save them, and oppression becomes the law of the land. When the people have had enough (and ONLY at that time) they will rise and destroy the despots. In the ashes of the empire only sorrow and strife remain. The empire is gone, never to return. Within ten years there will be another revolutionary war in America. At that time the people will once again be taught that the only ballot that counts is a bullet. How many times must this lesson be learned? Those that do not know their history are forever doomed to repeat it. Is sad that the greatest nation to ever exist will pass, however, all things do so in the fullness of time.
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08-14-2008, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fman What Im about to say is my opinion. There SHOULD be a war on drugs. You ever been strung out on crack, or know sombody that has od'ed on smack. How about all the meth labs that people have died in. These are dangerous drugs and the GOVT. should do something about them. Prison sentences should be very stiff for people that deal in thoes substances. On the other hand medical marijuana is a different story. The Govt. should respect the laws passed by the people in the states that have medical laws. |
I understand your point Fman...
However, crack heads will be crack heads, and meth heads will be meth heads whether it is legal or not. Just like we continue to grow our own weed at the risk of our own freedom...
Instead of wasting our tax dollars by harassing our citizens and tossing junkies in jail... I think the resources that are being wasted on this war on drugs could be put to better use elsewhere, while the revenue generated from a regulated industry could actually do many of us some good, while at the same time getting it out of the hands of the street thugs that currently plague our society. We could do away with the the "gangsta" drug dealers & have licensed dispensaries take their place. The prices would drop and the typical crack whore wouldn't have to spend so much time on her back to get her fix... Prolly a poor choice of words, but I hope ya get my drift. Instead of hiding in dark alleys & condemned buildings sharing needles and spreading AIDS, the junkie could be provided with pre-measured, sealed, single dose units with retractable needles that could be discarded safely.
I'm personally against the hard drugs myself. All I do is MJ.
I'm simply voicing a possible solution to a problem that we all face.
I'm not saying that we'll turn into a "Utopian society" or anything like that... I've just become more of a pragmatist as I get older. The gov will never stop it, so they might as well embrace it... And, tax it...
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08-14-2008, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Fman What Im about to say is my opinion. There SHOULD be a war on drugs. You ever been strung out on crack, or know sombody that has od'ed on smack. How about all the meth labs that people have died in. These are dangerous drugs and the GOVT. should do something about them. Prison sentences should be very stiff for people that deal in thoes substances. On the other hand medical marijuana is a different story. The Govt. should respect the laws passed by the people in the states that have medical laws. | On the one had i think every conscious human being knows the dangers of drugs. But at the same time do you have a right to tell someone not do put something in there body when you yourself are doing something millions say is evil and wrong? It's a double edged sword and he who chooses to swing away will only be cut down. In my opinion o agree with Snickle when saying that there will always be a crack head as long as theres crack. and you can't very well make crack unattainable to the people who want to smoke it. (unless you put a business suit next to the crack pipe)
And remember Meth was created in a bathtub basically with household items.. once someone can get ****ed up off Mr.Clean im pretty sure this drug was has been proven completely useless.
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08-16-2008, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Fman What Im about to say is my opinion. There SHOULD be a war on drugs. You ever been strung out on crack, or know sombody that has od'ed on smack. How about all the meth labs that people have died in. These are dangerous drugs and the GOVT. should do something about them. Prison sentences should be very stiff for people that deal in thoes substances. On the other hand medical marijuana is a different story. The Govt. should respect the laws passed by the people in the states that have medical laws. | there will be always those that don't fear any risk if they can harvest a kick - and this fact makes any form of prohibition senseless.
Besides, couldn't the now risky meth labs and crack kitchens run legal under perfect condition with trained technicians once this prohibition is over?! not only that the end of prohibition will reduce the interests for hard drugs as they lose their gov made glory but it also takes those out of business that willingly harmed customers as it is now a legal product and therefore customer protection laws would come to effect, i bet you never thought into that direction, or did you?
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