Hello from Oceania,

Here's a pretty interesting article. It goes into the past, back to the Clinton administration, but that's a good thing. We can look at all the changes in the past 17 years and see what has come to pass and compare the present day to what was predicted back then.

(I do not endorse left/right Divide & Conquer politics)


There is No Global Warming

There is no global warming. Period.

You can't find a real scientist anywhere in the world who can look you in the eye and, without hesitation, without clarification, without saying, kinda, mighta, sorta, if, and or but...say "yes, global warming is with us." There is no evidence whatsoever to support such claims. Anyone who tells you that scientific research shows warming trends - be they teachers, news casters, Congressmen, Senators, Vice Presidents or Presidents - is wrong. There is no global warming.

Scientific research through U.S. Government satellite and balloon measurements shows that the temperature is actually cooling - very slightly - .037 degrees Celsius.
A little research into modern-day temperature trends bears this out. For example, in 1936 the Midwest of the United States experienced 49 consecutive days of temperatures over 90 degrees. There were another 49 consecutive days in 1955. But in 1992 there was only one day over 90 degrees and in 1997 only 5 days.

Because of modern science and improved equipment, this "cooling" trend has been most accurately documented over the past 18 years. Ironically, that's the same period of time the hysteria has grown over dire warnings of "warming."
Changes in global temperatures are natural. There is no proof that temperature is affected by anything that man has done. In fact, recent severe weather has been directly attributed to a natural phenomenon that occurs every so often called El Nino. It causes ocean temperatures to rise as tropical trade winds actually reverse for a time.

The resulting temperature changes cause severe storms, flooding and even draught on every continent on earth.
It's completely natural. El Nino has been wreaking its havoc across the globe since long before man appeared.
How about the reports that the polar ice cap is melting?
Well, yes it is. In fact, it has been for about a million years or so. We are at the end of the ice age in which ice covered most of North American and Northern Europe.

There's at least one environmentalist, named Al Gore, who is panicking over the possibility that we may soon lose Glacier National Park in Montana because the ice is melting.
One hates to tell him that we've already lost the glacier that used to cover the whole country. Perhaps he'll want to start working for new regulations from the Interior Department to begin immediately restoring this lost historical environmental treasure. Re-establishing a sheet of ice covering the entire continent would certainly serve to stop mining, timber cutting and urban sprawl.

The truth is, someday humans may be able to take tropical vacations at the North Pole - and it will be perfectly natural.
Yet our world is being flooded with the dire predictions of Global Warming.

We are being warned of killer heat waves, vast flooding and the spread of tropical diseases. Ocean levels are rising, they say. America's coast lines are doomed, they tell us. Hurricanes and tornadoes have already become more violent, we are warned. Floods and droughts have begun to ravage the nation, they cry. Any change in temperatures, or an excessive storm or extended flooding is looked upon as a sure sign that environmental Armageddon is upon us.

Diabolical environmentalists are using the natural El Nino phenomenon to whip people into a Global Warming hysteria.

TWO KINDS OF SCIENTISTS

We are assured by the White House that scientists everywhere are sounding these warnings and that we may only have one chance to stop it. Well, as the debate rages, we find that there really are two kinds of "scientists."

There are those who look at facts and make their judgements based on what they know. Their findings can be matched by any other scientist, using the same data and set of circumstances to reach the same conclusions. It's a age-old practice called peer reviewing. It's the only true science.

And then there are those who yearn for a certain outcome and set about creating the needed data to make it so. Usually you will find this group of scientists greatly dependent on grants supplied by those with a specific political agenda who demand desired outcomes for their money.

Let's just take NASA, for example - the most trusted name in American science.

A lot of NASA scientists have fallen into this trap. Environmental science has become the life-blood of the space program as the nation has lost interest in space travel. To keep the bucks coming, NASA has justified shuttle trips through the use of earth-directed environmental research. And the budgets keep coming. At the same time, many of NASA's scientists come with a political agenda in great harmony with those who advocate the green agenda. And they're not above using their position to aid that agenda whenever the chance is available.

This was never more clearly demonstrated than in 1992 when a team of three NASA scientists were monitoring conditions over North America to determine if the Ozone layer was in danger. Inconclusive data indicated that conditions might be right for ozone damage over North America, if certain things happened. True scientists are a careful lot. They study, they wait and, many times they test again before drawing conclusions.

Not so, the green zealot. Of this three-member NASA team, two could not be sure of what they had found and wanted to do more research. But one took the data and rushed to the microphones, with all of the drama of a Hollywood movie, announced in hushed tones that NASA had discovered an Ozone hole over North America. Then Senator Al Gore rushed to the floor of the Senate with the news and drove a stampede to immediately ban freon - five years before Congress had intended - and without a suitable substitute. He then bullied President George Bush to sign the legislation by saying the Ozone hole was over Kennebunkport - Bush's vacation home.

Two months later NASA announced, on the back pages of the newspapers, that further research had shown that there was no such damage. But it was too late. Remember that when you have to buy a new air conditioner or refrigerator for no reason other than your freon has run out of the old one.

FLAWED COMPUTER MODELS

Then there are those computer models. Night after night Americans watch the local news as the weatherman predicts what kind of a day tomorrow will be. These meteorologists, using the most up-to-date equipment available, boldly give you the five-day forecast. But it's well known that, even with all of their research and expensive equipment, it really is just a "best guess." There are just too many variables. If the wind picks up here it could blow in a storm, if the temperature drops here it could start to snow. The earth is a vast and wondrous place. Weather does what it wants.
Yet those who are promoting the global-warming theory have the audacity to tell you they can forecast changes in the global climate decades into the future.

The truth is computer models are able to include only two out of 14 components that make up the climate system. To include the third component would take a computer a thousand times faster than we now have. To go beyond the third component requires an increase in computer power that is so large only mathematicians can comprehend the numbers. Moreover, even if the computer power existed, scientists do not understand all the factors and the relationships between them that determine the global climate.

So it's an outrage for Al Gore, Bill Clinton and the Sierra Club to tell you that Global Warming is a fact and that we Americans must now suffer dire changes in our lifestyle to stop it.

SCIENTISTS ARE NOT ON AL'S BAND WAGON

And so too is it an outrage for Al Gore to tell you that most true scientists now agree that global warming is a fact.
What he doesn't tell you is that almost 500 scientists from around the world signed the Heidleburg Appeal in 1992 just prior to the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, expressing their doubts and begging the delegates not to bind the world to any dire treaties based on global warming. Today that figure has grown to over 4000.

He also doesn't tell you that recently a Gallup Poll of eminent North American climatologists showed that 83 percent of them debunked the global warming theory.
And the deceit knows no bounds. The United Nations released a report at the end of 1996 saying Global Warming was a fact, yet before releasing the report two key paragraphs were deleted from the final draft.

Those two paragraphs, written by the scientists who did the actual scientific analysis said:

1. "none of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases."

2. "no study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to ...man-made causes."
Global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the people of the world - bar none.

THE CLIMATE CHANGE PROTOCOL

Those who have been fighting against the green agenda have been warning that modern-day environmentalism has nothing whatsoever to do with protecting the environment.
Rather it is a political movement led by those who seek to control the world economies, dictate development and redistribute the world's wealth. They use the philosophical base of Karl Marx, the tactics of Adolph Hitler and the rhetoric of the Sierra Club.

The American people have been assaulted from all directions by rabid environmentalists. School children have been told that recycling is a matter of life and death.
Businesses have been shut down. Valuable products like freon have been removed from the market. Chemicals and pesticides that helped to make this nation the safest and healthiest in the world are targeted for extinction.

Our entire nation is being restructured to fit the proper green mold. All of it for a lie about something that doesn't exist. But the lie is about to grow to massive proportions --- and the game is about to get very serious indeed.
In December of this year Bill Clinton will travel to Kyoto, Japan to sign a legally-binding United Nations treaty called the Climate Change Protocol.

The sole argument for this treaty is that Global Warming is a fact and we must take severe action to stop it.
Right now the Clinton Administration is bombarding the airwaves with the sales pitch. Conferences are being held in cities across the country. Special reports, magazine articles and documentaries are all being used to pound home the message - global warming is here - we must stop it.
But the most offensive assault on the expression of free thought by the American people, as the Administration drives to sell you this snake oil, was committed by Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt. Babbitt said that anyone opposed to the fight to stop Global Warming was "un-American."
He accused those opposed to the Climate Change Treaty of engaging in a "conspiracy to hire pseudo scientists to deny the facts." So now, according to Babbitt, to disagree with the Clinton Administration is tantamount to treason.

In fact the Climate Change Protocol is a legally binding international treaty through which signing nations agree to cut back their energy emissions to 15 percent below 1990 levels. And the treaty says this goal is to be accomplished by as early as the year 2010. That means that all of the energy growth since 1990 would be rolled back, plus 15 percent more in just twelve years. Yes, there are negotiations, debates and arguments taking place over the exact terms of the treaty as we speak. Perhaps the final version won't be so severe.

But it doesn't matter. Such a massive disruption in the American economy, particularly since it has nothing to do with protecting the environment, will devastate this nation.
To meet such drastically-reduced energy standards will, in the short run, cost the United States over one million jobs. Some estimate it will cost over seven million jobs in 14 years. If the treaty sends the economy into a tailspin, as many predict, it will cost even more jobs.

It will cost the average family $1,000 to $4,000 dollars per year in increased energy costs. The cost of food will skyrocket. It has been estimated that in order for the United States to meet such a goal the U.S. gross domestic product will be reduced by $200 billion - annually.
To force down energy use the Federal government will have to enforce a massive energy tax that will drive up the cost of heating your home by as much as 30 to 40 percent.
In all likelihood there will be a tax on gasoline - as high as 60 cents per gallon. There will be consumption taxes and carbon taxes.

The purpose of these punitive costs is to drive up the cost of modern living in order to force you to drastically change your lifestyle. That is the diabolical plan behind this restructuring scheme. Every single product that is produced with the use of energy will increase in price. Including items like aspirin, contact lenses and tooth paste.

Yet just recently Bill Clinton said that compliance with the treaty would not hurt the economy. He said he can "grow the economy and do right by the environment."
The truth is, to date, the Clinton administration has refused to release an economic impact analysis of the effects of the treaty. But a leaked study by the Department of Energy's Argonne Laboratory finds that the treaty will cripple six U.S. industries including paper, steel, petroleum refining, chemical manufacturing, aluminum and cement. That about sums up the economy. When Clinton is through complying with the treaty you may find yourself sitting in a dark house after lights have been ordered off early in the evening, unable to drive your car because of gas shortages, unable to walk to the shopping mall because stores will be ordered closed after dark, even if you have a job and money to spend.

GLOBAL RAID ON AMERICAN WEALTH

But perhaps you still are not convinced. Maybe you still cling to the idea that such drastic action is necessary - that our president and the UN delegates are really in a panic over global warming and are trying to find a solution.
Then ask yourselves why the treaty will only bind developed nations to its draconian emission levels.
You see, only developed industrial nations will be bound by the treaty. Undeveloped Third-World nations will be free to produce whatever they want. These will include China, India, Brazil and Mexico. And guess what? 82% of the projected emissions growth in coming years is from these countries.

Now ask yourself, if the Climate Change Protocol is all about protecting the environment - then how come it doesn't cover everybody? The truth, of course, is that the treaty is really about redistribution of the wealth.

The wealth of the United States is and has always been the target. The new scheme to grab the loot is through environmental scare tactics.

If, today, you were to attend a UN session on the Climate Change Protocol you would find yourself in a discussion with excited delegates from Third-World countries. They would make comments to you like, "when the technology transfer takes place my country will begin producing this or that item." Translation - when the United States is stupid enough to fall for this scheme, the third world will take up the slack and get rich.

And international corporations, who owe allegiance to no nation, will bolt America and move their factories, lock, stock and computer chip, to those Third-World countries where they will be free to carry on production. But that means the same emissions will be coming out of the jungles of South America instead of Chicago.

So where is the protection of the environment? You see it's not about that - is it? Still not convinced? One more thing. Hidden in the small print of the treaty is a provision that calls for the "harmonizing of patent laws." Now, robbing a nation of its patent protection is an interesting tactic for protecting the environment, don't you think?

CAN IT BE STOPPED?

Bill Clinton, pushed by Al Gore and the massive green lobby, is determined to sign that treaty. The war has been engaged. Industry is finally beginning to wake up to the terrifying threat of the green monster that it helped to create. For the past three decades industry has given into every outrageous green demand. And it has fueled the monster by filling green coffers with massive tax-deductible donations. Now industry finds itself trapped.

But more frightening is the fact that many prominent proponents of property rights and limited government still fail to see the danger in the treaty. Many say the Senate will never ratify such a treaty. They point out that, in a vote of 95-0, the U.S. Senate rejected in a "non-binding" resolution the Climate Change Protocol. That overwhelming vote, they say, will stop Clinton in his tracks.

That resolution was presented by Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia. He, along with Congressman John Dingle of Michigan have led the opposition against the treaty. Republican leadership, so far, has been silent. It is, of course, commendable that Senator Byrd and Congressman Dingle have taken the lead to do "something" to protect American interests. But both of them are established liberal Democrats, who have based their opposition solely on the fact that only industrial nations are tied to the treaty.
That's not fair, they say, and so they oppose the treaty - "as now written."

Apparently they are taking the stand that if America must be enslaved, then it's only fair that the rest of the world share our misery. Not once have they said the whole concept is wrong. Not once have they challenged the validity of the science that is based on the supposed fact of global warming. Is this then the wall of defense that we are to hide behind? Are we now to entrust the very future of our Republic onto the shoulders of Senator Byrd and Congressman Dingle? That appears to be the current wisdom of our leaders on Capitol Hill.

Wary Americans, of course, know what will happen next. The story is all too familiar. Very soon Clinton will summon Byrd and Dingle to the White House and offer them a compromise. Then everyone will smile for the cameras and the Republicans, in the spirit of bipartisanship, will give away the store. In fact, that process has already begun.
So Bill Clinton is moving full-speed-ahead with his plan to travel to Kyoto, Japan this December to sign the Climate Change Protocol. When he does, and after the Senate has ratified it, the final blow will have been struck.

The United States of America will begin a long, agonizing decent - strangled by its own hand.

The question now is, can it be stopped? And more importantly, will we even try? The new scheme to grab the loot is through environmental scare tactics.

© 2008 American Policy Center

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I always knew it was! Just sounded silly in the first place actually. I don't trust anything I read in the media anymore..

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Hey Sabasi,

Yeah, it's tough to trust anything you see on television or read in the papers. I don't believe global warming exists or is anything to worry about. Having said that there are things in this article that I don't like. The guy seems to be pushing the big chemical corporations and other industries but apparently so Americans can actually go to work and support their families, so it's not the most sinister agenda out there. I still believe there are a lot of real environmental concerns we need to fix I just don't have any faith that our criminal government will attempt to fix them for our benefit. There is always an ulterior political motive that trumps the actual issue in the forefront of the publics consciousness.

-the Corsican.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

I sooo agree!!

Odd... I could swear that some ship recently sailed round the top of Russia, something mariners for generations have perished in pack ice trying to achieve. In my house ice has a tendency to melt when it gets warmer. I don't know about computer models and whether scientists um and ah about it, but assuming the reports of ships making this voyage are true, and it is not because these days we just have a better class of icebreaker, I am reasonably convinced that the climate is warming up.

Retreating glaciers seem to be hinting at something too, I dunno maybe it is just me.

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Even if it is true, then I would think they (US Gov) would legalize hemp and promote it's use. Also, get busy building Nuclear power plants, like Japan, China, and even Russia, are doing. Instead they are hung up on carbon credit ponzi scheme and covering the landscape with windmills. I don't get it.

No, I'm with you on that one cap'n. Here's a couple of pieces of data to contrast those claims against.

On the raw data:

"Nov. 7, 2008 -- Research on Arctic and North Atlantic ecosystems shows the recent warming trend counts as the most dramatic climate change since the onset of human civilization 5,000 years ago, according to studies published Thursday."
Warming Trend Is Steepest in 5,000 Years : Discovery News

"For a long time, it seemed that Antarctica was immune to global warming. Most of the icy southern continent, where temperatures can plummet to minus 80 degrees Celsius (-112 degrees Fahrenheit), seemed to be holding steady or even cooling as the rest of the planet warmed. But a new analysis of satellite and weather station data has shown that Antarctica has warmed at a rate of about 0.12 degrees Celsius (0.22 degrees F) per decade since 1957, for a total average temperature rise of 0.5 degrees Celsius (1 degree F)"
Antarctic Warming Trends : Image of the Day



Global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



On the El Nino connection and the source study attempting to dismiss empirical evidence on Global Warming and the studies methodology:

NOAA/PMEL/TAO - What is an El Niño (ENSO)?
El Niño: Research, Forecasts and Observations

""Contrarians have sometime grabbed on to this idea that the entire continent of Antarctica is cooling, so how could we be talking about global warming," said study co-author Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State University, quoted the Associated Press. 'Now we can say: no it's not true.'"
New Study Shows Warming Trend in Antarctica | Online NewsHour | January 22, 2009 | PBS


"A valid way to estimate the impact of el Nino on global temperature is to use multiple regression on actual data rather than on estimates of time derivatives. On can include the impact of volcanoes, el Nino, solar changes, and greenhouse gases. When one does so, it’s clear that without the influence of man-made climate forcing it’s just not possible to explain the trend in global temperature. But I’m hardly the first to point that out."
Old News « Open Mind

"Climate contrarians are promoting a study published on July 23 in the Journal of Geophysical Research that they mistakenly claim overturns decades of scientific evidence that human activity is driving global warming. In fact, the study's mathematical methodology would obscure any long-term trend in global temperatures."
Factcheck: Contrarians Promote Study That Masks Warming Trend | Union of Concerned Scientists


On the author of the article quoted by the OP:

American Policy Center - SourceWatch

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So that graph tells me it should have been obvious in the 80's when the Gov was denying it, but focused on acid rain from the sulfur in the coal. And then it was the aerosol and freon ozone layer thing. If it was so obvious then why now?

in power make too much money in all things that contribute to and escalate global warming turned a deaf ear so they wouldn't have to give up horrific profits at our expense = greed..

this new administration is more intelligent and listening to science and being more responsive to the truths and more responsible in its actions and decisions, imo.

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what total bull.

I always laugh at the fact that NONE, not ONE, of the "articles" or "papers" that say, "There is NO Global Warming", have EVER been able to make it through the peer review process.


That process exists for a reasons, it is so EXPERTS, REAL experts, who do this for a living (imagine some government goon who has never grown marijuana in his life telling you that modern growing techniques are deadly and can kill you), can fact check and make sure the paper is not full of crap. Not one paper against climate change can make this claim.

When one does, I'll read it, but until then it might as well be someone who has never grown before telling me I'm going to blow up my house with a grow light

i for one, agree with Psyops and Jigsy420. you cannot deny the scientific data. it all points towards things to come. it would behoove us to be adequately prepared in all ways. water, food, basic supplies, and small arms as well as at least one rifle, one shotgun, and plenty of ammo. in an ideal situation you could build an underground haven or "bunker" to take shelter. of course i refer to more than just the weather changes. food for thought.

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In a SHTF (shiz hits the fan) situation, I would say a handgun would be the most important gun you could have for personal protection.

The reason being, you can't walk around with a rifle or shotgun, even in a SHTF situation. Someone will shoot you, haha. A handgun can be kept in a pocket ALL the time, no matter if you are going into the local, "town center", or in your house working on something. Rifles and Shotguns are just really bulky, and let's face it, you just can't walk around with one of those outside your house without bringing unwanted attention.


There is a kickass writeup a guy in Argentina (where the SHTF) did about how to survive in this sort of an environment;

blog from Argentina SHTF.. - Gold & Silver Forum


He recomends a rifle for hunting, but 99% of the time he's going for his handgun in his pocket.

.. this leads me to conclude that for all our so called 'intelligence' (more like smartness than intelligence) we havent a fkng clue about anything.

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C'mon we've figured out almost an unbelievable amount of things. How do we safely fly 500,000 lbs objects at 500 MPH through 40,000 feet of altitude with fantastic safety records?

Organ transplants? Life expectancy from 25 years, to 75+ years?


We aren't doing THAT bad are we?

i wont say those things arent amazing feats. they are. but in the meantime we overlook the most important basic fact. if we keep up our attitude in regards to nature and how we 'use' nature then that by itself is counter productive to us as an organism... therefore we lack intelligence.

we are just smart apes.with very little regard for ourselves and every other inhabitant of the planet that has just as much to a right to exist freely and healthily as we do.

wouldnt you say?

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some people may take offense at being called a smart ape. but thats because they either havent really thought about it properly or they are just ignoring the obvious evidence.

many people in the world (a majority maybe) chose the latter. ignoring the obvious and pretending nothing is wrong with what we do. especially if you get money out of it...

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Its hard to paint every human with the same brush, since many have essentially a -0- environmental impact. As a whole we are damaging the environment, but how do we know that? We had the intelligence enough to create environmental sciences which can quantify what we are doing and give us the opportunity to correct our mistakes.


We are far from perfect, but we've come a long way. As a whole humans don't show nearly enough regard for the other life on the planet, I hope that changes.