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4maggio · #1 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 02:37 PM

High

I started a thread in the Joke section:

http://www.greenpassion.org/f34/if-m...you-lie-15403/

If a man lies..... should have been here...

It has become political... it's a political joke.. what can I say...

But I've reciently thought.... If it wan't Dems and Repups, what would it be that would want to CONTROL us? and suck us dry (figurativly)..

How about.... the curch/religion... like muslims and the jihad and the crusades (a while back! LOL!)...
I've heard that more have died in holy wars than all othr wars together..

And I'm not saying that religion is BAD!

Just that religious leaders are politicians in their own right and have their own adjenda.. beyond 'what's best for us'ins'..

The sheep (masses) must follw someone.. choose your poison.

they chose an un-tested politician/lawyer to speak for them.. they might as well have elected madonna or ll cool j (<I think he'd be better and black too, I think).......

We have become a LEGAL society.. tourt reform or the lawyers win..

deep[H2O]culture · #2 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 02:40 PM

lmao over here... religon? party? i guess i'll be a "green party-rasta" with a little tibetan monk practices.. lol, this should be fun

motaman1013 · #3 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 02:48 PM

MMH Cool J.

HookerRoad · #4 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 02:58 PM

It makes not difference. Religion or politics has but one purpose... to control people. Faith is a different issue. It is personal and cannot be controlled because it is personal. Politicians and Religious leaders don't like faith. It is counterproductive to their agendas. I was bummed the fella the yelled "You lie" apologized. I would never apologize for telling the truth no matter how rude it might have been or what decorum it might have violated. It needed to be said. I really like the look on Obama's face when he heard it. He looked like a kid on a play ground being called out cheating. He was pissed but what could he say... he knew the guy was telling the truth.

4maggio · #5 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HookerRoad

It makes not difference. Religion or politics has but one purpose... to control people. Faith is a different issue. It is personal and cannot be controlled because it is personal. Politicians and Religious leaders don't like faith. It is counterproductive to their agendas. I was bummed the fella the yelled "You lie" apologized. I would never apologize for telling the truth no matter how rude it might have been or what decorum it might have violated. It needed to be said. I really like the look on Obama's face when he heard it. He looked like a kid on a play ground being called out cheating. He was pissed but what could he say... he knew the guy was telling the truth.

And now he's whining because the media is on his appointees and 'not favoring' HIS health care.

The media got him there (elected)... and he doesn't want to hear public sentiment from the media now!

Pelosi, Biden and the other deciples (you didn't know BO was holy!??) yes him to death and can't understand why everyone isn't sucking up too!

For once I'd like to hear a, yes or no answer from any of them..

Lumix · #6 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 05:32 PM

Let Mars attack and kill congress and all the rest of the greedy bastards.
51: sec "They blew up Congress, Ha ha"

HookerRoad · #7 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 01:31 AM

I'm texting Mars right now and putting in my request.

The Corsican · #8 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 11:31 AM

A few of my own opinions based on solid research:

Why do they want to control and enslave us Maggio? The reasons go beyond greed and lust for power. If I try and get into the details this post would become very long and very controversial. A lot of people would have some serious problems accepting the facts and evidence that proves this world system is far more sinister then most people would be willing to believe. The information is so controversial and disturbing that the majority of people immediately shut down and disregard the evidence. Why? Because people carry a lot of baggage and detrimental programming, it's a product of being raised in this system, we've all been affected by it and no one is immune. Everything from personal insecurities to simply not having the courage to look deeper for fear of being forced to face the truth.

Denial is a very powerful truth suppressant.

Hooker Road,

" It makes not difference. Religion or politics has but one purpose... to control people."

I'd have to hear your definition of religion in order to comment further without making assumptions about your beliefs.

I will say this though, organized religion is definitely the opiate of the masses just as Lenin said. This doesn't mean that religion is false or a fairytale as some people have been led to believe. On the contrary, most of the supposed "authorities/experts" spreading these lies and deceptions are pseudo-scholars at best and very intellectually dishonest. At worst they are malignantly spreading lies in order to further the goals and agendas of the power elite. This is called "externalizing the hierarchy" and it is a very effective weapon.

This "externalization" is used all the time in Hollywood movies and the mainstream media and is a very powerful tool. If you repeat something often enough (the bigger the lie the better) people will eventually come to believe it, regardless of the lack of facts or supporting evidence. A good example of "externalizing the hierarchy" is global warming, or a lack of global warming. The theory has become ubiquitous and many people (the majority) except it as a fact. The truth is very different from what we've been programmed to believe.

I've studied satellite pictures of both the north and south poles (since 1970; the photos, not the length of my research) and they show a very consistent ebbing and flowing of the polar ice. Our planet has been consistently cooling down since 1998 and the data proves this to be completely and incontestably true. As the earth was warming up in the late eighties and early to late nineties so were the other planets in our solar system. There is no pollution or combustion created by human beings on these other planets so why did they warm and cool at the same rate as the earth? What drives these heating and cooling cycles and what do all of the planets have in common?

The sun, the solar cycle of the sun creates these fluctuations, not greenhouse gases. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I do not support the purposeful polluting of our planet and I am not trying to debunk the very real damage mankind has done to itself and the planet. I'm trying to explain how the "externalization of the hierarchy" affects the masses into believing in something that doesn't exist. The powers that be heavily influence science and the halls of academia. If they want the people to believe a big lie they have the power and the knowledge to bring it to fruition.

Anyway, through fraud and outright lying and pseudo science they have very effectively brainwashed billions of people into believing a huge lie, that our earth is heating up due to man's carbon emissions. Anyone with a very basic understanding of Carbon dioxide as it relates to the environment knows that the human output through industry and any other unnatural means make up less than .002% of all the carbon dioxide going into the atmosphere. The ocean alone is by far the largest producer of greenhouse gases, at the very least in the top three. Plants and animals come in second, along with many other natural sources of carbon dioxide.

A study of these heating and cooling cycles and how they effect our planet has revealed that during the hotter cycles our civilizations have thrived in every possible way. During the cooling cycles our civilizations have contracted and sometimes disappeared completely. There is so much disinformation out there concerning "global warming" that it doesn't surprise me in the least that the majority of people believe what their "authorities" and "experts" tell them when it comes to global warming. The powers that be rule us through fear. A person who is afraid is easy to control, period. Most of the paradigms we've been exposed to have all been cleverly created to control us. The Cold war is an excellent example of how two opposing ideas (controlled opposition, the Hegelian Dialectic) can create enough collective fear to control millions and millions of people with no one being any of the wiser. The newest false paradigm of fear is the War on Terror. When one paradigm comes to a close another takes its place and the control and manipulation continues unabated.

Then comes this question:

Why are they lying to all of us?

Because fear of eventual environmental destruction due to global warming instilled in the minds of the masses equates to a very easily controlled and manipulated population. They will begin to tax the hell out of us based on the false theory of global warming. They will create laws in the very near future that will limit our access to our natural lands. We'll be taxed for our individual carbon footprints. We'll be taxed by the mile when we drive. This in turn will limit the mobility and freedom of our society and in turn it will create a very compartmentalized and even more ignorant population. Animals will take precedence over human beings in ridiculous fashion. Look at what Obama did to save a few supposedly endangered minnows? He's limited the water supply to the most fertile growing land in the country (California) and probably in the world and it will in turn reduce our food production and make us even more dependent on foreign sources of food then we are now.

This isn't a recent phenomenon by any means and it is neither democratic or republican scam/scheme. During the early sixties (1963) a meeting took place inside a mountain bunker (Iron Mountain in New York State). Fifteen of the world's most intelligent men from many different fields of study got together to discuss how to control the population in the absence of war. You see, these people understand very well that war is the tie that binds all of us together, it is the glue that holds our society together. Without it they would lose their control over the masses and their domination of the human species would come to an end. This meeting or series of meetings were set up to discuss a more efficient means of controlling the people in the absence of war. They came to the conclusion that a false environmental threat to the planet would be the best option. The second option was alien invasion, I shyte you not!

Since the "Report From Iron Mountain" was released for public consumption (one of the fifteen experts leaked the minutes of those meetings and it was published by Doubleday I believe) we have experienced exactly what was discussed and planned in those meetings. The powers that be created a false environmental crisis in order to use it to control us even further, if that were even possible. This is what these people do (the elite, the super rich) and it is deadly serious business to them. They will often spend billions of dollars simply to research more efficient ways to control all of us.

Here's a link to the Report:

Report From Iron Mountain

-the Corsican.

4maggio · #9 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 03:57 PM

High Corsican... I'm glad we got the short version! LOL!!!!

I agree completely.. sheep just want to eat, poop and be sheared once in a while... where does the food come from and what happens to the wool isn't germaine to their thought process Not to mention, they don't care where they poop. They're happy eating and pooping and just generally doing nothing that has any thought process of their own.
Thell them to go to the barn, they go.. why? I doeno! That's what they made them do before?

Elect the liberal black man....Truth.. free stuff! OK...
2012<<<I hope he doesn't fool them twice. There is no free lunch.
Although they'll replace him with another that will carry the batton.

Tort reform! will set us free(er)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Corsican

A few of my own opinions based on solid research:

Why do they want to control and enslave us Maggio? The reasons go beyond greed and lust for power. If I try and get into the details this post would become very long and very controversial. A lot of people would have some serious problems accepting the facts and evidence that proves this world system is far more sinister then most people would be willing to believe.

This "externalization" is used all the time in Hollywood movies and the mainstream media and is a very powerful tool. If you repeat something often enough (the bigger the lie the better) people will eventually come to believe it, regardless of the lack of facts or supporting evidence. A good example of "externalizing the hierarchy" is global warming, or a lack of global warming. The theory has become ubiquitous and many people (the majority) except it as a fact. The truth is very different from what we've been programmed to believe.

Another good example is BOs election campagin...

I've studied satellite pictures of both the north and south poles (since 1970; the photos, not the length of my research) and they show a very consistent ebbing and flowing of the polar ice. Our planet has been consistently cooling down since 1998 and the data proves this to be completely and incontestably true. As the earth was warming up in the late eighties and early to late nineties so were the other planets in our solar system. There is no pollution or combustion created by human beings on these other planets so why did they warm and cool at the same rate as the earth? What drives these heating and cooling cycles and what do all of the planets have in common?

Does the sun rotate irregularly on it's axis?

The sun, the solar cycle of the sun creates these fluctuations, not greenhouse gases. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I do not support the purposeful polluting of our planet and I am not trying to debunk the very real damage mankind has done to itself and the planet. I'm trying to explain how the "externalization of the hierarchy" affects the masses into believing in something that doesn't exist. The powers that be heavily influence science and the halls of academia. If they want the people to believe a big lie they have the power and the knowledge to bring it to fruition.

Indoctinate our kids thru the media and now in schools... make them believe TV generated propaganda early and they can except those paraqmieters as they grow older..

Kinda like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree..

Anyway, through fraud and outright lying and pseudo science they have very effectively brainwashed billions of people into believing a huge lie, that our earth is heating up due to man's carbon emissions. Anyone with a very basic understanding of Carbon dioxide as it relates to the environment knows that the human output through industry and any other unnatural means make up less than .002% of all the carbon dioxide going into the atmosphere. The ocean alone is by far the largest producer of greenhouse gases, at the very least in the top three. Plants and animals come in second, along with many other natural sources of carbon dioxide.

Then comes this question:

Why are they lying to all of us?

Because fear of eventual environmental destruction due to global warming instilled in the minds of the masses equates to a very easily controlled and manipulated population. They will begin to tax the hell out of us based on the false theory of global warming. They will create laws in the very near future that will limit our access to our natural lands.

Didn't Bush try to drill for oil in protected land in Alaska(Anwar)?
He didn't know poop though..

We'll be taxed for our individual carbon footprints. We'll be taxed by the mile when we drive. This in turn will limit the mobility and freedom of our society and in turn it will create a very compartmentalized and even more ignorant population. Animals will take precedence over human beings in ridiculous fashion. Look at what Obama did to save a few supposedly endangered minnows? He's limited the water supply to the most fertile growing land in the country (California) and probably in the world and it will in turn reduce our food production and make us even more dependent on foreign sources of food then we are now.

^^ That is a crime.. He cut the water off
Liberals should be hiding their heads..

This isn't a recent phenomenon by any means and it is neither democratic or republican scam/scheme. During the early sixties (1963) a meeting took place inside a mountain bunker (Iron Mountain in New York State).

I was in Iron mountain in the mid 70.. creepy place...

Fifteen of the world's most intelligent men from many different fields of study got together to discuss how to control the population in the absence of war. You see, these people understand very well that war is the tie that binds all of us together, it is the glue that holds our society together.

Historically, corect me if I'm wrong, the US goes thru growth and prosperity during times of major wars. Jobs were pletiful because 'the draft' took most young men, leaving many open jobs to support the war and women and adult males to work (the ones that want to work). Win, Win for everyone but the guys dieing.

I think the draft is a good idea too...

The second option was alien invasion, I shyte you not!

The world might unite on a partisan issue! LOL!!

Here's a link to the Report:

Report From Iron Mountain

And this report is how they hide what they want to do.. blah, blaha, blaha,, etc., etc.. Party of the first part.. GD long... where are the crib notes?

-the Corsican.

Thanks for the insite Corsican

The Corsican · #10 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 06:01 PM

Hehe!

Got a serious laugh out of this:

"High Corsican... I'm glad we got the short version! LOL!!!!"

It cracked me up. I know, I know, and yes, that was definitely the short version.

I'll comment to your comments/questions in order.

Yup, BO's (I like to call him "Obama Lama Ding Ding Dong!") campaign is a good example of the "externalization".

That's an interesting question, I'm not sure to be honest. I know a few things but I'm not an expert. I have read a great deal on global warming but I don't retain everything I read. I don't think anyone does.

Right on...The Public "Fool" System is all about programming our children to except what is commonly called the "New World Order" which is basically going to be a one world central government. Sovereign nations will be a thing of the past when they succeed. They're not far from realizing their sick little dream either.

Bush put it on the table but it didn't happen. This is just another example of controlled opposition/Hegelian Dialectic. They have to make it appear like their are serious differences between the left and the right so occasionally they allow things to go through that seem contrary to their overall plan. These people are slick and very intelligent. This isn't a "quick" conspiracy. It's been going on for centuries and it has taken them centuries to get to this point. We are almost at the end of the road.

It is a crime and it's being done to weaken our nation. We used to supply pretty much all of our own needs, from steel to oil to whatever. The powers that be intentionally destroyed our industrial base so we would have to depend on foreign imports. Remember, it's about globalism and a new social world order. You can't control a nation unless you weak it's foundation significantly.

Wow! You've been there? That's interesting. How did you come to be there?

"Historically, correct me if I'm wrong, the US goes thru growth and prosperity during times of major wars. Jobs were pletiful because 'the draft' took most young men, leaving many open jobs to support the war and women and adult males to work (the ones that want to work). Win, Win for everyone but the guys dieing.

I think the draft is a good idea too..."

Man...that's a large issue to get into. Let me say this...There would be virtually no war if it wasn't for the international bankers. Do a bit of research on the Rothschild Family. It will blow your mind. They are probably one of the most powerful Dynasties in the world. Their wealth is not measured in the billions but in the hundreds of trillions!!!

Wars are always profitable, that's one of the main reasons we seem to be perpetually at war with other nations. It all leads back to the bankers. They control countries through their central banks. is there a sinister and hidden powerful force behind the bankers...I definitely think so.

The draft can be a good idea but at this moment in time it isn't good. The problem is that our country has been infiltrated and stolen from us. Why in the hell should we fight wars for profit and conquest and allow these bastards to benefit while our quality of life and freedom continues to shrink and disappear? If our country was run properly (Constitutionally) a draft wouldn't be needed because the people would want to defend their nation with a zealous passion. When a country is truly free there is no shortage of good men willing to die for the freedom they have enjoyed.

Hehe! You could probably find a summary of the report. I'll try and dig one up for you if you're interested?

-the Corsican.

4maggio · #11 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Corsican

Hehe!

Got a serious laugh out of this:

"High Corsican... I'm glad we got the short version! LOL!!!!"

It cracked me up. I know, I know, and yes, that was definitely the short version.

I'll comment to your comments/questions in order.

Yup, BO's (I like to call him "Obama Lama Ding Ding Dong!") campaign is a good example of the "externalization".

That's an interesting question, I'm not sure to be honest. I know a few things but I'm not an expert. I have read a great deal on global warming but I don't retain everything I read. I don't think anyone does.

Right on...The Public "Fool" System is all about programming our children to except what is commonly called the "New World Order" which is basically going to be a one world central government. Sovereign nations will be a thing of the past when they succeed. They're not far from realizing their sick little dream either.

Bush put it on the table but it didn't happen. This is just another example of controlled opposition/Hegelian Dialectic. They have to make it appear like their are serious differences between the left and the right so occasionally they allow things to go through that seem contrary to their overall plan. These people are slick and very intelligent. This isn't a "quick" conspiracy. It's been going on for centuries and it has taken them centuries to get to this point. We are almost at the end of the road.

It is a crime and it's being done to weaken our nation. We used to supply pretty much all of our own needs, from steel to oil to whatever. The powers that be intentionally destroyed our industrial base so we would have to depend on foreign imports. Remember, it's about globalism and a new social world order. You can't control a nation unless you weak it's foundation significantly.

Wow! You've been there? That's interesting. How did you come to be there?

"Historically, correct me if I'm wrong, the US goes thru growth and prosperity during times of major wars. Jobs were pletiful because 'the draft' took most young men, leaving many open jobs to support the war and women and adult males to work (the ones that want to work). Win, Win for everyone but the guys dieing.

I think the draft is a good idea too..."

Man...that's a large issue to get into. Let me say this...There would be virtually no war if it wasn't for the international bankers. Do a bit of research on the Rothschild Family. It will blow your mind. They are probably one of the most powerful Dynasties in the world. Their wealth is not measured in the billions but in the hundreds of trillions!!!

Wars are always profitable, that's one of the main reasons we seem to be perpetually at war with other nations. It all leads back to the bankers. They control countries through their central banks. is there a sinister and hidden powerful force behind the bankers...I definitely think so.

The draft can be a good idea but at this moment in time it isn't good. The problem is that our country has been infiltrated and stolen from us. Why in the hell should we fight wars for profit and conquest and allow these bastards to benefit while our quality of life and freedom continues to shrink and disappear? If our country was run properly (Constitutionally) a draft wouldn't be needed because the people would want to defend their nation with a zealous passion. When a country is truly free there is no shortage of good men willing to die for the freedom they have enjoyed.

Hehe! You could probably find a summary of the report. I'll try and dig one up for you if you're interested?

-the Corsican.

Early in my life/careers I worked for a fortune 500 computer company in NY/NJ/CON... I was the recorder of registered (ie: top secret) stratigy / plans... 1 year, 2 year 5 year>>> out to (i forget exactly) around 25 years.. in the early 70s. Later in the legal dept.. the sent me there to get some 'evidence' for court tomorrow!? Got directions, it's in a town just north of New Paltz (college town) starts with an R... no matter... drove down/up the dirt road to the 14' high 15-20' wide steal door with the intercom.. I said the password door took almost a minute to slide right to left very thik.. feet.... Down, down, down, for many minutes in total darkness (headlights) thru levels.. they didn't give me the tour, LOL.. and I was only allowed to go behind thoe glass doors where I found the stuff...
Turn around and out....

Crazy place.. no one knows is there... at least they didn't know then.

SmokeToLive · #12 (**permalink**) 10-03-2009, 09:49 PM

The answer is simply educating your fellow citizen, educating yourself, and putting pressure wherever you can. Obama is only one of many problems. We need to fix the two party system, jury nullification, Congress, and the list goes on. And really none of that is Obama's fault. He's a symptom of the problem.

It all amounts to spreading the idea that a government that tells you how to live your life is not a government you want, which also means letting go of the idea that we can control others through government. And many people need to learn that lesson D/R/I(ntelligent), especially if we are going to have a public health care option.

(Obviously it's a fine line I walk with Libertarians.

)

The Corsican · #13 (**permalink**) 10-03-2009, 09:55 PM

I agree.

It used to be about common law (don't hurt or defraud anyone and you could expect to live your life in peace without worrying about government intrusion) but now it's about the government shoving a very dry fist up our asses.

Obama is not just a symptom just like Bush wasn't just a symptom though. It takes evil men to do these type of atrocities and only decent men can stop them. Unfortunately it seems like decent men and women are in short supply nowadays or they feel like acquiescing is the only option in order to "get by".

-the Corsican.

ileso · #14 (**permalink**) 10-03-2009, 10:59 PM

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Repuplicants and Dickocrats what's the alternative?

the alternative? how about learning to think for ones self?

ileso · #15 (**permalink**) 10-03-2009, 11:16 PM

keep the masses afraid to stay in control sums it up i think.

though i dont agree with you in totality corsican i do agree with alot of it.

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I'd have to hear your definition of religion in order to comment further without making assumptions about your beliefs.

i do think you mix religion and belief up though. religion is the club you support. belief is something else altogether.

one thing i think people seem to not see is that regardless of climate change etc is that we really should do something about the way we humans treat the life support system we depend on. (the earth incase anyone was wondering)... im not worried about life in general. i think its pretty hard to extinguish life itself. its human survival im pretty worried about... i mean humans as part of the general ecosystem do depend on things like forests and biodiversity to survive... should we be taking more care of nature? someone explain how buying and selling carbon credits does this? or are we just getting fleeced again?

AS an after thought ... ... maybe nature made us so inertly violent to one another as a way of keeping our numbers down? so maybe wars are a good thing as they periodically cull the numbers...

The Corsican · #16 (**permalink**) 10-03-2009, 11:38 PM

Right on.

The "Fear" paradigm is king on planet earth. I could tell you things that would blow your mind and challenge what you thought was true. I say this humbly because I wasn't born with this knowledge, at least not in a formed and coherent way. We can either stumble around in the dark fearing or hating each other for our differences or we can live and let live and enjoy one another's company. Diversity is a beautiful thing as long as we can get over our fear of the unknown and I think that takes a little bit of faith.

"I do think you mix religion and belief up though. religion is the club you support. belief is something else altogether."

That's just semantics my friend. It depends what that belief is based on. We can define religion as being man made or we can define it as something rooted in History backed up by physical evidence. No doubt I can prattle away in the subjective but I can also go on about the objective and empirical. It all depends what flavor you might prefer.

Climate Change (I would personally just use the term pollution because climate change is a loaded term) is tricky. I agree that the earth is being abused but who's doing the abusing? Who are the ring leaders? It surely isn't the people. Most people are blind followers, ignorant cattle that prattle off opinions based on nothing at all. I agree, the earth really isn't in danger, we are. The earth will survive but we won't. It would be a terrible tragedy if we took all that beauty with us though.

Oh man! Carbon credits are a huge scam. People need to educate themselves concerning the pseudo-scientific theory of "Global Warming", at least when it's linked with man's output of Carbon gases. The world's oceans put out more Co2 in a year then we could put out in 10,000 years. Man puts out something like .002% of the overall greenhouse gases while natural processes produce the bulk aggregate of greenhouse gases.

If human beings are causing the climate fluctuations then why are the other planets in the solar system (they were heating up) heating up at the same rate as the earth? I didn't know Martians were driving SUV's? The sun is the dominate factor in climate change. Our planet has actually been cooling down since 1998. We go through cycles of hot and cold and it's completely natural. Don't believe all that propaganda about the polar ice caps melting (they've been melting for quite a long time, and they've been freezing up too!) and polar bears drowning. It's all about the fear paradigm, just like you mentioned.

A lot of people (the majority) would consider me quit insane because of what I just said but then the majority believes what they see on the boob tube too and think that the president of the United States is the world's most powerful man.

-the Corsican.

4maggio · #17 (**permalink**) 10-04-2009, 07:32 AM

High all..

Corsican, you're a man (I think) of few words! LOL!!! Well eloquted and thought out.
You remind me of a guy who wrote a long grow thread at C-W but I'm mokin AK47 ATM, anything is possible.. Peace?

Going to Clewiston, FL at 9am (via WideGlide) and warm up the place.. sorry Mr Gore..

Anyway.. here is what snopes.com has to say about the Global Warming issue. I know snopes is formed and written by 'humans' and all humans have motivations but they seem unbiased most times.

snopes.com: John Coleman on Global Warming

They think it's (GlobalWarming) BS to.
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Now back to religion and fear..

I agree religion is like a club..
Other religions intrpretations make it more like a gang, pushing for more 'turf' to be theirs.. (you're with us or again' us, jeb!)

and a paradox has arrisin.. freedom of religion and free speach.
Are there Muslim schools? Like Catholic schools? I dono. Seems logical.
Teaching 'their' kids, their way and ideals. Not a good cycle.. I'd bet they do not follow (completly) 'our' 3Rs.
Yes, I think our freedoms have been used to our disadvantage.
Our goveernment

Gang is a gang.. Look at some american citys gang problems.. the kid that just got killed because he wouldn't join the gang.. do you think they (gang members) have a 'religion' that they killed him for? I do not. LosAngeles might have as many 'gangs' as Iraq (I can't spell afganistan, LOL!) has feudal lordes (gangs).....

Your reference to 'I'll live my life in peace, without govt intervention', Corsican is being challenged by outside events not thought of 100 years ago (or 25 for that matter). Unfortunatly.. and I sound like a broken record.. lawyers (re: politicians) make the laws and hire the LEOs to enforce 'their' laws... hence starting the 'monetary driven' ferris wheel they call 'In the publics best intrest'. Makes me sick.

I think it all started with seatbelts and motorcycle helmets (<I do not).
Now they have a law the one must wear a helmet while riding a horse..
Soon we will not be able to walk without a helmet..
When hemet manufacturers run the world. LOL!!

I'm not even reading this (my) dribble above.. but it took too long to type to just erase..

The Corsican · #18 (**permalink**) 10-04-2009, 07:49 AM

Hey Maggio,

I agree with everything you wrote. And explained in that way Religions do indeed seem like gangs, can't really argue with that. I personally don't belong to a religion per say so it doesn't matter to me in that sense. Religion is something created by man to control other men and women. I think it is as simple as that. This might seem like a contradiction coming from someone who says they follow Yahushua (Jesus) but it isn't. Who got the brunt of His anger? The scribes and the Pharisees. Why? Because they were hypocrites and they were teaching pointless religion. They were missing the point of ritual and made it more important than the end result it was supposed to produce.

Religion is all around us and I'm not just talking about Christianity or Islam or even Judaism. When you've been to court what does the Judge wear? A black rob, right? Same as a priest (color wise). He sits atop a bench and hands out judgment. This goes back to Rome (Saturnalian cult) and beyond Rome and is linked with the planet Saturn. lawyers stem from the priesthood also. Take a look at corporate logos and you'll find they all represent mystery religions from the ancient past.

What in the hell do the mystery religions have to do with multi-national corporations? Once you begin to research the connections things take on a sinister hue and the commonly held paradigm of accidentalism begins to fall apart.

Good post brother,

-the Corsican.

P.S.,

Very interesting article, especially the part about the 31,000 scientists stepping forward. I knew about that but it's nice to see it in other articles. I do have a problem with the article and the author of the article. He's a right winger and I don't like right wing neocons. I don't like the left either. I think both are false paradigms created to divide the people. As soon as I read "Rush Limbaugh" I thought, "Oh great, we have some scientific fact to back up the lie of Global Warming and this idiot is using Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to drive the point home!" Immediately anyone coming from the leftest perspective will disregard everything within the article and I can't really blame them to some degree. There are articles out there that do not come from a place of polarization and politics even though the issue is seriously intertwined with politics. Study the pure science behind it and it becomes rather easy to see that Global warming is not being driven by man.

ileso · #19 (**permalink**) 10-04-2009, 09:28 AM

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Climate Change (I would personally just use the term pollution because climate change is a loaded term) is tricky. I agree that the earth is being abused but who's doing the abusing? Who are the ring leaders? It surely isn't the people. Most people are blind followers, ignorant cattle that prattle off opinions based on nothing at all. I agree, the earth really isn't in danger, we are. The earth will survive but we won't. It would be a terrible tragedy if we took all that beauty with us though.

my point exactly. so while we are being hoodwinked with climate change the real issues arent being raised on the public forum. but i do think that in many ways the inertia of the public is to blame for this. we sit back and do nothing, we use and abuse of plastic packaging and dont demand (DEMAND!) recyclable and biodegradable materials and fuels instead. we sit back and do sht all.

in this day and age there is almost nothing that we cant produce from bio-degradable materials. why dont we demand this change sinse our governments are too busy sucking corporate cck to care? why do we still use fossil fuels and fossil based products? oh yeh its cheaper.. good one. we'll polute the earth but make a profit...

it makes no sense. polution wouldnt be a problem anymore if we changed over... but well inertia is a major problem amongst the vast herds of human cattle. maybe god will save humanity? and the dodo...

what can be done to liven the masses into thinking for themselves? how about legalising cannabis for starts? its slowly becoming increasingly obvious that the last of the free thinkers are the pot heads...

im becoming increasingly irritated today.. could be the flue, but it could also be that i see a whole lot of bad crap going on and i feel powerless to stop it even though i can think up a dozen good solutions for it all.

it saddens me to think that it will take something of cataclysmic proportions like a mass extinction of large portions of the human race or something like that for people to realise what we are getting ourselves into...

i mean look at the amazon for example. if theres a job for the UN i think thats one of them. how about having armed patrols around the forest with shoot to kill orders for anyone caght clearing forest? if countries like brasil have no notion of the honour it is to be the caretaker of the amazon, and cant protect it. it has to be taken off their hands and turned into an international parkland. things like that... or there will be no respect, because its also increasingly obvious that the only way to make them understand is with lethal force. am i too harsh? no way. to polute our rivers, to burn our forests, to destroy our oceans is not only bad to nature its a very serious form of disrespect to everyone else on the planet. and in many ways can be harmful and even lethal to us in the long run. akin to killing us slowly. seen from that point of view is the use of lethal force too harsh? no. people who do these things wont stop doing it otherwise. its the only law they understand.

i really do believe this is an option. killing one or two to save many is a fair trade. hows that for a job for the UN? keeping the planet safe from human corruption.

yeh i know, wishfull thinking. instead we have david letterman tell us he shagged his co-workers and politicians try to sell us carbon credit crap and wars in the middle east...

fk when i get this pissed off i begin to think our extinction isnt such a bad thing, we as a race obviously have no grasp of the honour it is be be alive on such a beautiful planet. i think just about every species of plant and animal would sigh with relief if that happened.

its time human really became the caretakers of nature. and did something. time we took responsibility for our actions. all of us not just those in charge.
i mean how thick in the head do you have to be to go tinkering with the life support system that is keeping us from dying? you have to be tretty darned stupid if you ask me.

so it makes no diference rep or dem. capitalist or communist.

The Corsican · #20 (**permalink**) 10-04-2009, 10:12 AM

I should have been a bit clearer as it concerns the mases and the state of our planet. You're right, people are part of the problem and part of the blame does fall on our shoulders. I should have said that from the outset but I wanted to emphasize that the powers that be are intrinsically responsible for all this madness. They spend and unbelievable amount of resources on manipulating and brainwashing the majority. Ignorance is only a viable excuse for so long. At some point it just starts looking like irresponsibility and a lack of depth or care for our tiny little planet.

Fossil fuels cause problems, no getting around that. We have the technology to change things effectively and quickly. I believe there are hidden or suppressed technologies that have existed for decades but they were shelved because they would free us from the elite and we wouldn't have to depend on them anymore. The more a person needs the system the more easily that person is to control. What if we could produce our own electricity from our own backyard? What if we could produce our own food? What if we could provide water for ourselves? Their system of control would collapse. They need to keep us dependent on their system in order to control us. Energy independence on the individual level is something the will not tolerate. They have too much to lose.

We both know the miracle that is Cannabis. We know all of the many beneficial products it could provide. It is the plant that could actually solve all of our problems. And that's why the powers that be do everything in their power to destroy it. If Cannabis was made legal it would be the beginning of the end for the world controllers and they know it. Cannabis could supply us with all the energy we need and help save the human race in the process. It could feed the starving and dying children of the world and clothe them, provide jobs, etc., all at the same time!

There is a network in place that is just below the surface of everything we come in contact with. It is all powerful and a force for evil. It controls politics, culture, the environment, you name it and this force is behind it. It runs the halls of academia and the ecclesiastical institutions, it creates think tanks and non-profit organizations to spread its terrible virus among the people of the world. Every major corporation is in bed and in league with this force, this underground network of control. It is slowly coming out of the shadows and those who doubt it will eventually come face to face with it and wish they had listened when people tried to wake them up to this truth.

We live in a tightly controlled society, nothing in politics happens by accident. No one ascends to political power by the will of the people. It has become an open conspiracy. The powers that be are on the move and no longer need secrecy to shield them from the masses. They are deviant in mind and soul and have no compassion or conscious. They kill thousands on a daily basis and plan to murder millions of us. We're reaching the event horizon and our lives will change drastically in the near future and not for good. I wish I was wrong but I know I am not.

-the Corsican.