Found this great video last night and wanted to share it with you all.

Anyone for filming a 30sec Zombie Movie in Switzerland?



Link:
liveleak.com/
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sorry guys, you have to copy n cut it yourself together into your browser as GP doesn't let me post the link without going directly to the malfunctioning player.

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Video not working Green, or is it just me

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no, it isn't just you, the embed link isn't working for me either but don't ask me why. I will edit the direct like to the video, that way you have to go to LiveLeak but you gone be able to watch it at least. Sorry about that.

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here you go green_nobody, i converted the video and uploaded it to youtube.
sure is true and right on the money, and entertaining!

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Thats pretty much true... I don't have a gun anymore, don't feel I have the need for it at this time, but if I thought it was time to protect myself and mine again, then I would certainly get one...

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Great vid!

The Swiss are not the ones to mess with over there behind those mountains. It's been tried.

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-Michael

LoL, great video.
For the record, you will never see a little girl riding down the street in Switzerland with an assault rifle. Given this was part of the gentleman's argument. The government does not issue guns to every household, it issues a guns to every member of the militia. The gun and ammo which is sealed and inspected regularly to ensure that no unauthorized use takes place. The issue of ammo was stopped a couple of years ago due to too many people committing suicide or killing their spouses, existing ammo that we handed out has been withdrawn. So if the chainsaw man attacks, you'll have to get the gun, unseal the ammo, load it, then hope that it does not jam (it is Swiss so I guess that it won't). By which time you would have probably been better off locking yourself in the Nuclear bunker (which all houses also have to have by law), and calling the police.



When their time as a member of the militia is finished, the assault rifle has its fully automatic mode deactivated, and turns into a self loading rifle.

It is illegal to carry a gun in public unless the bullets are packed separately. One can only carry a gun in public, with a specific gun licence, which you can only get after compulsory training, and if you are a member of a security service. To transport a gun in public you must be going to one a four designated places or events. You can't just take your SIG out for a walk on a whim.

Why do they do this? So they have a very small standing army, and a large militia. 20 year olds do national service. The country is also 'neutral'. Add to that the level of poverty is no comparison with the USA, there are no inner city slums. Heroin can be obtained legally, and drugs laws in general are liberal.

So they have low gun crime, and there is a low crime rate and an affluent society. (Oh and cuckoo clocks come from Austria... Orson Wells made a mistake). This does not mean that people don't go postal from time to time... one Swiss recently killed 14 in the Parliament building.

In the end there is no comparison between the USA and Switzerland.

I may have a hunting licence, a shotgun and a 22 rifle, I am not in the USA. Nothing wrong with liking guns, I like guns, and shooting can be a satisfying, skillful and fun pastime, But if I lived next door to the gentleman in the video, I would want a friggin tank.. he is clearly a psycho who has watched too many films.

Thanks for the link to that site, never seen it before... very interesting to see how some people are thinking over there.

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Well addicts get free heroine there to deture em from comitting crimes to still their habit, but in overall the laws been toughened in recent years, for example the sale of clones got banned in 2001 to name one. And that they are soft on users can not be said either if we look back last years case of two girls in Zurich that ended up being strip searched for smoking a joint together in a park.

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Interesting... addicts get free heroine to deter crime, that was the main point I was trying to make. Much gun crime in the USA is gangster turf wars, as I understand it. I don't live in the USA. I know a few people who live in Switzerland and or are Swiss. I can drive there if I want to in a day, with out the need for a boat.

In Europe in general what you do in a park, and what you do at home are considered separate. The authorities don't like flagrant piss taking in public. Frankly serves the girls right for being idiots, let that be a lesson to them, no sympathy. In many places you'd get busted for drinking alcohol in the park, although a strip search is less likely.

Where I live I can grow on my widow ledge, inside the windows or under lights (a handful of plants) and stay within the law.

If I put them on my balcony, it is a bust. Same applies to sex, I can make merry with the windows open and the lights on, too bad for anyone looking, do it on the balcony it is indecent exposure etc.

It is not legal to sell clones, but I can go to my local main street grow shop and pick them up when ever I want, along with any other things I may need.

The reports I have from Switzerland are much the same... thing is in Europe, we have to be a bit discrete, otherwise we get over run by American and British drug tourists (not a pretty sight, look at Amsterdam, and even there MJ is tollerated not fully legalised)... this is what happened in Switzerland when they set up the Smack Parks.

Try Portugal, they seem to have a handle in it, nice place for a holiday.

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I wouldn't call the guy a psycho by any means. He might have different views but living next to him wouldn't be dangerous. I don't understand why you think it would be dangerous to live next door to him? You never know, he might wind up saving your life. As for American violence...I live in one of the most violent cities in America and it is directly related to drug prohibition. Most of the crime is almost always caused by drugs or sheer ignorance caused by mainstream television pushing thug programming onto impressionable young minds.

People are nuts, people will kill other people for odd reasons no matter what. Gun control always leads to mega-violence in the end. That's an historical fact. What is beat is that some gun owners probably shouldn't be gun owners. But it's a fundamental right, regardless of man-made laws. If you have kids, teach them how to properly handle a firearm. Make sure to demonstrate to them what a weapon can by shooting some type of large fruit or Beef eye roast. Nothing teaches respect for guns like a good graphical representation of their destructive power.

And lastly, keep your guns away from your kids if you have any doubt your children do not truly respect them and know how to safely use them. The Second Amendment was not written so we could hunt or partake in shooting events. The main reason for its existence is so that citizens of the United States of America have the ability to defend themselves and the nation against all enemies, especially domestic (tyrannical government). Every time nations outlaw guns millions of people get slaughtered...by the same government that passed gun control laws under the guise of protecting its citizenry.

-the Corsican.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

The idea of using guns to overthrow a corrupt American government just doesn't really exist anymore. Stealth Bombers and Aircraft Carriers make the lone rifle man a danger to the security of everyone but not a threat to the state.


Btw, I am pro gun rights, just pointing this out.

That's an interesting point that I've discussed with others in some depth. I tend to feel that anything is possible, even in this world of high technology. I think the key would be in unconventional warfare. On top of that if something did go down in America there's a good change the military would split in two, depending on the actual cause of a hypothetical revolution. If Iraqi insurgents can hold there own (and Afghanis) then there is always the possibility of success.

Don't get me wrong though, we could roll over both countries if we let loose the real killing power of our military. But we won't do that over there and we definitely wouldn't do it over here. Maybe it's a mute point? Either way, you may be right. It's hard to know what the actual outcome would be if something like that happened. The better solution is the American people peacefully taking back their government from corrupt criminals and reinstalling the Constitution as the Supreme law of the land. It's better then what we have going right now even though it is far from being perfect.

-the Corsican.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

because the only military members that always serve in their home state are guard and reserve units, I don't see the military splitting. Even if actual states were to try to succeed, the bases in those states would be held by the federal government, the only state assets would be the guard units. That's in an actual state succession. Personal revolt would have an even harder time securing military assets.

You might see militia being able to hole up in the mountains and what not, but they'd never capture signifigant territory. And let's face it, special forces would clear them out in a matter of weeks or months.

Sorry,

I disagree. History is my guide, not what may or may not happen according to what weapons the other force has at their disposal. There are already many in the military who feel the same as I do. I'm sure some feel like you do also. But to assume that the people wouldn't have a chance is a narrow perspective to hold. That's why I stress it could go either way. We can look at the Afghani war with the Soviets or even our war with Vietnam to show that an inferior fighting force without high technology can win against a larger force with better weapons.

The main thing to consider is overall strategy. If you lead a smaller, weaker force you never fight your opponent head on. You blend in with the civilian population, use hit and run techniques, weaken the command and control of your enemy, take out his communications and make the enemy believe you have a much larger force then you do. You weaken your enemy by lightening fast surprise attacks and undermine their morale through sheer brutality. When the enemy is at their weakest you press the attack and when they are mounting offensive operations you fall back and disappear into the civilian population.

The most important aspect is freedom. Men are willing to die for freedom, by the millions. Showing up to fight, regardless of the battle's outcome will decide whether or not a smaller force can win. George Washington lost most of the battles he fought with the British but he kept on fighting. In the end it was sheer tenacity and strength of will that won us our Constitutional Republic, not military hardware.

-the Corsican.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

I too live in a very violent area, it was on the cover of time magazine recently actually in regards to the corrupt politics around here. I would say that most of the crime in this area is because of drug trade, and ignorance. I just watched a news story about a woman who fire bombed her own house with her two children inside and killed them. There will always be some people who are sick, twisted, and with no regard for human life. That is why I am a proud owner of several firearms.

6951... I disagree with you that the American military would be able to easily overrun any opposition force in a martial law or revolutionary type setting. I would like to think that many many servicemen and women would have a huge problem patrolling US soil for US citizens with the intent of killing them. I wouldn't be surprised to see active servicemen defecting and taking equipment with them to help the opposition because deep down they will want to believe in the cause.

I will also use the same reference as Corsican, look at afghanistan and tell me the long gun can't make a difference. Most guerilla forces don't have access to much else besides the long gun and they do very well because of the psychological aspect of nobody knowing who they are and when they are coming. Also, Afghanistan fought and won a war against russia when the russian military was at its peak. Conventional war and its tactics and predictability are easily fought and defended against by people who know what they are looking at and it will be the unconventional thinkers and fighters who will prevail. It may take longer, but it will happen.

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It was the French that won us our republic. We were a sideshow in a much larger war.

Interestingly enough, helping us bankrupted the French and that was the main reason for the French Revolution. So, they got two revolutions for the price of one!

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The Russians were winning in a big way. They had almost completely crushed the opposition and were already eying their next prize, either Pakistan or Iran or both. The whole point of the exercise was to get a warm water port on the Arabian Sea. And they might have pulled it off - until we gave the Mujahideen Stinger missiles. That's what beat the Russians - the Stinger, courtesy of Uncle Sugar.

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still... seems like Russia should have been able to win given all they're military troops and hardware, stinger or not. In the grand scheme of things stingers are small, I've been in the military, I know this.

I can't believe actually that you just openly stated that the French won a war... that's interesting. You can't be speaking to the revolution are you? If you are then I would think you are horribly misinformed on that topic.

Its not about gaining land, or physical territory. Its about moral, and making the enemy believe that they can't win no matter what. And even though Russia had its so called "eye on the prize", they still lost. Having been that close to victory the stinger should have never been enough to stop them.

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Having thought a little longer on the French thing... I'll give you this. They did assist us so far as training militia's and some basic equipment goes. But by no means were they the deciding factor in the American revolution. The men and women who had the balls big enough to stand against an oppressive government and fight for what they wanted were the reason we won that revolution. Even without the french I believe that we could have won, it may have taken longer, but the outcome would be the same. Seems fitting that they helped us at the beginning and we have been bailing them out ever since.

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