Sorry, I must have mixed you up with a Brit that posted inside the thread.

Well, all my knowledge about the military is secondary, family, friends and general reading. You have me beat in the direct experience category. But I'm an American like yourself and my opinions and the information I offer are valid also. I see a lot of terrible things happening in our armed forces. Discussing a country's military is always an important and very serious topic. I understand the frustrations of those in the military having to listen to people like me, especially when direct experience is telling them that I'm wrong on certain issues. I can understand that.

The problem lies in the hierarchy, not the soldiers themselves, for the most part anyway (a soldier is responsible for his own decisions and actions [to an extent] but it is his duty to obey orders). The whole concept of an effective fighting force hinges on the soldier obeying his orders. Without discipline and strict adherence to following orders it wouldn't be a very effective fighting force.

The main problem I see are foreign entanglements (nice way of describing bloody mayhem!). Politicians continue to spout off propaganda like this: "We live in a integrated world, each nation depending on the other for basic survival and we must join with these other nations on order to insure peace and security around the world for the benefit of future generations." It's all bunk, it's all smoke and mirrors. More lies and deceptions designed to lead the people into a despotic world dictatorship.

Our industrial base has been intentionally destroyed/severely weakened and moved outside the country. Our agricultural infrastructure has been intentionally degraded in that at one time we produced all of our own food and are now dependent on the production of food from other nations in order to feed the American people. There are many other things the elite have done to purposely weaken our nation. It's all been done to march us towards global government.

Do you really want to see America directed by a bunch of foreign politicians who don't know the first thing about what it means to be an American? Do you want to see our troops continue to be used as cannon fodder to beef up the power and control of multinational corporations under the guise of the "War on Terror" brother? It's a bunch of bull****. Our country and our culture have been incrementally manipulated (along with the minds of the people) into something our forefathers never wanted. The American people have been dumbed down and deceived into believing that all these un-American foreign policies are good for the country. I still believe that the Monroe doctrine is viable in the 21st century, regardless of all the pseudo arguments of a more "complicated" and integrated world. The world has always been complicated and we have always depended on other nations to meet specific needs. That's no reason to throw away 234 years of freedom and liberty.

Note: (the intensity of the last paragraph was not directed at anyone personally. I'm just passionate about this very serious subject)

Do you know that we meet at least seven of the ten communist planks from Karl Mark's Communist Manifesto? I tell you no lies brother. Their (the elite) talent is deception. They make their policies and their changes sound very appealing and very reasonable but the real motives are sinister. This isn't my opinion. I can provide you with reams of quotes directly from the people in power proving that they are doing exactly what I have been describing...Steering our country into what is commonly referred to as the New World Order; A global super-state where sovereign nations are a thing of the past with a massive central military machine that will be used to coldly and cruelly stomp out all dissent and destroy all enemies of the state. Think of the destruction that would ensue if all that power fell into the wrong hands. And as I've stated, the people working towards these goals are the "wrong hands".

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever." - George Orwell ( A.K.A., Eric Blair, British Intelligence Officer, 1949.)

You're familiar with the Constitution. We have the separation of powers for a reason, so power is not centralized into the hands of the few. It may have failed miserably due to the people not being vigilant and criminals usurping the Constitution but the premise is a good one; Too much power concentrated under one man's authority (or a group of men) always leads to oppression and tyranny.

Either way, I'm not a fanatic nor do I want to see blood on American streets. I do not want to see a civil war or violent revolution/reformation. I just want to be free and currently I am not free. We're ruled by banksters and criminals and most people either acquiesce or have no idea what is going on. It is seriously frustrating to be called a conspiracy theorist when I work within the realm of facts. It is even more frustrating to see intelligent people being manipulated and deceived into unknowingly helping to destroy their own country. I know that statement sounds arrogant at first glance but that wasn't my intent. A friend recently said to me, "You get more bees with honey" and he was correct. My passion and my frustration wound up alienating me from the people I was attempting to reach. The information is out there, separate from divisive left/right politics and should be sought after by anyone interested in learning what I believe to be the truth.

The police have turned into jack-booted thugs and view the population as their enemy and even ignorantly refer to us as "civilians" when they themselves are civilians and are supposed to be our servants. They believe we must obey their every order and if we refuse they have the right to torture us on the spot (I watched an old lady get tazed for talking back to a police officer). It happens everyday and it is no longer a rare occurrence, it has become legion. It used to be that the bad cops were the minority, now they have become the majority.

We have troops policing the streets of America. The powers that be are incrementally getting us used to a military presence in our communities. This violates Posse Comitatus and is a very slippery slope to be fooling around on. Unconstitutional check points are going up all over the country. We actually have "Constitutional Free Zones" under the guise of fighting the drug war and stopping illegal immigration. States are passing draconian legislation in direct opposition to our Constitution and the Bill of Rights have been nullified through anti-terror legislation like the Patriot Act.

Things are going from bad to worse in the United States and the elite are picking up the pace. There is always hope and and we can take our country back but it will be a long and difficult journey with many casulaties (not necessarily physical casualties but it's a real possibility unfortunately) along the way.

Sorry for the long diatribe Operator.

Be safe,

-the Corsican.

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I agree with you on most points... I have watched this country travel down the path better left untraveled and am not happy with it. I don't believe it is Obama's fault or even Bush's fault for that matter but this has been happening a lot longer than that. I too don't want to see myself, friends, family and neighbors have to fight in the streets too keep what we have or go back to what we need, but the government isn't working for us. I do believe however, that given enough time, this path we are on will become more visible to more people, and if the government won't do what we want I believe there are people who will step up and attempt to make them. God help us all if that happens.

I actually think about things like this fairly often. Where I would go, who I would meet with, what I would take with me if a martial law situation was ever realized, and it makes me sad honestly. To think that one day it "could" happen should never need to cross anyone's mind in this country... and the fact that people are thinking about it I believe is a serious sign of what is happening.

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Hey Operator,

There was nothing you wrote there that I didn't agree with Operator. The only thing I would differ on slightly is Obama and Bush. It is true that what is happening in our country has been going on before either took office but I would put some blame on the both of them (equally). Presidents do have power, the problem is, what happens to them if they use it for the good of the people? Kennedy is a prime example. He promised to get us out of Vietnam and began pulling troops, He said that he was going to smash the CIA into a thousand pieces. Kennedy printed silver certificates directly through the treasury, skipping the Federal Reserve. They were debt free (no interest) and backed by silver. The last president (Lincoln) that printed debt free money was assassinated also. I believe presidents either know the score before hand or find out very quickly who is really controlling the game. I'm giving them some leeway by saying that because I feel they work for and are hand picked by the elites who run things.

"if the government won't do what we want I believe there are people who will step up and attempt to make them. God help us all if that happens."

I agree and you're right, God help us. But there is a time to stand up, I'm just not sure when that time is? Violence is the very last resort, and preferably only in self defense and to preserve freedom and liberty.

"I actually think about things like this fairly often. Where I would go, who I would meet with, what I would take with me if a martial law situation was ever realized, and it makes me sad honestly. To think that one day it "could" happen should never need to cross anyone's mind in this country... and the fact that people are thinking about it I believe is a serious sign of what is happening."

There is a rising anger in this country that is just beginning to be felt by the mainstream. Even those who I consider to be mainstream are becoming fed up and feel something has to give. What I worry about is if this is what the powers the be actually want? Are they provoking people into a fight in order to declare a state of Martial law?

Only time will tell. I expect another nasty "false flag" event sometime in the very near future (within two years or less). In order to move society further into the direction they are heading they need another catastrophe. The 20th century has been filled with such events.

-the Corsican.

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i am beginning to realize that presidents are mere puppets and scapegoats nowadays

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Pretty much.

I think Bill Hicks (a comedian) described it to a tee. When a new president is elected he is taken to a dark, smoke filled room with a bunch of rich elites sitting around in the shadows. All of the sudden a movie screen drops from the ceiling and they run the footage of Kennedy getting his head blown off. This is what a new president can expect if he tries to go his own way.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

I think you summed it it up very well, peace

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I was joking. But the intent is clear.

Hey Psy, check out these quotes from Woodrow Wilson:

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” -Woodrow Wilson, from his book The New Freedom (1913).

"A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation and all of our activities are in the hands of a FEW men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely CONTROLLED and dominated governments in the world no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of SMALL groups of dominant men." - Woodrow Wilson, "Campaign Speeches", 1912 ( stated 1 year previous to the quotation above. )

"I have unwittingly ruined my country." - Woodrow Wilson, unwittingly said soon after signing the deceptive Federal Reserve Act into law over Christmas 1913.

“If there are men in this country big enough to own the government of the United States, they are going to own it.” - Woodrow Wilson, presidential candidate,1912 -The Nation magazine, July 3, 2000, p5

These quotes are very revealing. Benjamin Disraeli (You are British right?) said some even more shocking things concerning the conspiracy to control all western governments by the rich and powerful. He pretty much echoed what Roosevelt said:

"Nothing in politics happens by accident." - Franklin Roosevelt.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

They are wise and great quotes. There is no question that the governments yours and others, if not all, are in the pockets of big business. God only knows how it can be resolved. I always liked the idea of the government just taking them over, then dividing them into smaller businesses and scattering them like seeds to the benefit of all. Obviously my twee utopia is not likely to happen. It is so frustrating to have the knowledge of what is going on, but only to be able to dream of what might have been. It seems to me that the whole thing has passed the event horizon, there is no stopping it.

The end game for those whom have a semblance of control (by that I mean the super rich) is to ride the wave while the world is depopulated dramatically. These people hogging the trillions are building financial pyramids from which only their chosen ones will emerge blinking into a world with far fewer people, just enough to maintain the elite. Its a long term project, and technology serves them well.

Sorry that was a bit bleak, I'm well up for some positive redirection.

ps. I am African, I'd prefer not to narrow it down any further, but thanks for asking

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What angers me is that the rich (seriously rich, like the Rothschild Family) are allowed to eat the earths resources up, our resources, sell them back to us, making huge profits and gaining more control over the people every day. It's a sick world brother. You mentioned that you're African. You know first hand then. Africa has been getting raped for quite a long time.

That's cool, no problem man.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

How does this lack of control and freedom affect you personally on a day to day basis? (directed at no one in particular)

If you had a magic wand and could change your personal day to day existence, how would you change it?

I feel I've got it pretty good even though are country is fueled by greed and a capitalist global economy. There are things I would like to change (legalize cannabis) and I do the things I can to change those things. California may even end up legalizing.

I'm not powerful and filthy rich but I feel I live in a country that if I wanted that kind of life I could do so.

I am acutely familiar with the situation in Africa, it is appalling. However thankfully I don't have a hard luck story to tell. If Obama is African (rather than American), I am African if he is not, I am still African * mild humour *

Rothschild and Rockefeller, and a gathering entourage of neuvo ultra rich. They say Bill Gates was / is the richest man in the world.... a pip squeak. That's what the guy has in the bank, these people own the actual frikking earth we stand on, and as you say, have all the means to exploit it. To be honest I think they are nearly done with that now, they need to keep some for later. Such as the Iraq oil fields, they have always been the reserve, completely unexploited thanks to a deal between the big oil companies decades ago. They are keeping some reserves, not that you'd notice, unless you look hard. The recent crash has reduced demand for raw materials and energy the world over. Subtle.

The technology is getting in place for things to be physically controlled by less and less people.

So... to my mind the next false flag operation will not be a bomb, or a smash, it will be much more cunning, and much more devastating. It will be flying the flag of mother nature.

@necros I just saw you post.. good thought, fair question

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Necros,

That's a good question. There are so many of our freedoms that have been taken away it's tough to list them all. One of the major ways they have hoodwinked us is through licensing. A license is basically permission granted to do something that would be illegal otherwise. Yet they've turned basic rights into things we need permission in order to do. Take for instance driving licenses. It is not a privilege to travel regardless of what most people have been told, it is a fundamental right. By the letter of the law only those using their vehicles for commerce need to be licensed by the state/government.

Instead they have taken away our right to travel freely and have imposed a myriad of levees and fines in order for anyone to be able to drive. When we register a vehicle with the state we've just unknowingly given away our private property and have become the "user" licensed by the state. This is true of many different things that used to be our right. If this wasn't true they couldn't "steal" vehicles without tags sitting in someone's driveway. The same is true of marriage. It used to be that if people got married they would record the event in their Bibles or whatever faith or believe system they followed. No the majority of the people got to the state for a marriage license and by doing so they are submitting to the authority of the state over their marriage.

It gets worse when it comes to birth certificates and other state-mandated regulations. Licensing people for things that used to be rights is one of the biggest scams of the 20th century. It's a slick way to enslave people, a legalistic tool to bring people under the control and authority of the state. Take a look at a Black's Law dictionary. The meanings of everyday words are very different in the legal world. The laws have been purposely confounded so that the common person cannot easily (or even with great effort) understand the legal system. This is so an esoteric priesthood (lawyers and politicians) can rule over the people.

When I was a kid you could go to any local park and light a fire whether it was day or night (the desert states are an exception). The police didn't walk up on you and interrogate you, Rangers didn't either. Things have changed bigtime since then. My local reservoir & major park has turned into a police state in the last few years due to the "War on Terror". Even though you couldn't light a fire at nighttime or fish without a license it was still relatively peaceful and you'd never see police or Rangers harassing people for the most part. Now you can't go ten feet without encountering a Ranger righting someone up in order to steal money and fund their useless little band of jack-booted thugs. They are literally everywhere now, a major presence. And it's all in the name of keeping terrorists from "blowing" up the reservoir. What a complete joke! And the worst part is people actually believe in that garbage!

"Terrorism is the best political weapon, for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death." - Adolf Hitler, Brutal War Mongering Dictator.

There is no more private property. We may think we own property but in reality that is not the case. What happens when you fail to pay your "property taxes". You either pay or your private property is stripped out from underneath you and you're thrown out into the street. Make the mistake of refusing to leave your property and they will send a hit squad to either physically remove you from your own property or kill you if need be for defending what you thought was yours. In a free society the ownership of private property is supposed to be a fundamental right. We've been conned out of that right through licenses and tax laws. The American people are taxed to the point of taking home less than 40% of their labor through direct and indirect taxes, license fees, and a host of other scams.

Let's delve into another area of control that the elite are following. The passing of legislation that outlaws the private and small business production of food. Farmers all around the country are feeling the pressure and are being turned into criminals because they are providing chemical free produce and foods. All because of massively large corporations like Monsanto. You can't sell whole milk, natural cheeses or eggs on the side of the road anymore because the state has deemed it "unsafe", yet they allow Monsanto to fool with the genetics of mother nature and allow them to sell us GM franken-foods that are harmful to our very DNA. The corporations pollute our food supply with with chemical additives and neuro-toxins (Aspartame, MSG, etc.) that they know beyond all reasonable doubt causes all sorts of serious diseases and illnesses. You may not know this but the Feds have been jack-booting up and raiding small farms and organic communes with automatic weapons in order to stop the sale of dangerous "clean", "organic" foods. What has our country turned into?

Many of the fundamental rights contained within the Bill of Rights are almost useless nowadays. Being the freest prisoner in the jail isn't freedom, it's an illusion of freedom Necros. I have left out many, many other examples that have strangled out our freedom and liberty. But the ones I listed should be sufficient to make my case. The Cannabis situation is just another example of how the rich elites force their will upon us in order to control us. A lot of people feel America is the best thing going in this world and that was probably true at one time. Now though, I'm not so sure. I'll never leave though, this is my home. You don't run away from evil, you fight it.

Psyops,

Yeah, the Bill Gates lie drives me crazy. The mainstream media is always throwing him out there like he's the richest man in America and it cracks me up. He's a pauper, a bum compared to the real powers out there. He is a pip squeak! The real elite do own the very land we stand on and everything else. The privatization of water is moving forward at a frantic pace also. Codex Alimentarius goes into effect on December 31, 2009. If you've never heard of Codex I would suggest you do a search on it. It will effect Africa first and it will lead to a massive amount of dead Africans that make the horrible suffering and death going on there right now look pale in comparison.

The "Peak Oil" question is an interesting subject. There have been some pretty weird occurrences in the world pertaining to oil. The Peak Oil theory says we will begin to run out of oil either by 2020 or 2050. But recent evidence suggests that oil actually replenishes itself. Oil wells that once ran dry are now refilling. This seems to suggest that oil is produced by geological processes that we do not fully understand. Oil may actually be a renewable resource. I know this sounds hard to believe and I'm not saying it is a fact. I'm just putting it out there. I've read some pretty interesting articles on the subject. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be true. It would be just one more big lie we've all fallen for.

All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf.

So... to my mind the next false flag operation will not be a bomb, or a smash, it will be much more cunning, and much more devastating. It will be flying the flag of mother nature.

I agree but aren't they already doing that? We've got the pseudo-science of Global Warming made mainstream by people like Al Gore (the earth has been cooling down since 1998) in order to further enslave us through carbon credits, the eventual limiting of our ability to travel (either through a direct tax by the mile scheme or something potentially worse) and other tyrannical and despotic means all under the guise of saving the planet. I do not support the polluting of the earth but I recognize the monumental evil and cunning deception that our enemies (the elite) use against us in order to incrementally gain more and more power over our lives. I am not in any way belittling or minimizing the problems/pollutions the large multinational corporations have caused and are causing every day.

In an older post a few weeks back I offered up some amazing material so people could study the false paradigm of control of the people through fear in conjunction with the environment. I offered up a book published (and free on the internet) by Random House publishing entitled "The Report From Iron Mountain". Unfortunately no one was really interested in broadening their horizons. The book contains the minutes of the meetings of an actual group that was put together by the government in order to investigate how to control the world's population in the absence of war. Fifteen of the world's most brilliant and learned men all admitted that war was the glue that holds society together and that war could not be done away with (this means that wars do not start [no accidents] for the reasons we think they are...Read between the lines/lies) until another system of control could be introduced to the masses. They came to the conclusion that the best method would be an environmental disaster (Global Warming) so serious that it would threaten the very existence of life on planet earth. The second runner up was an alien invasion (How in the hell did they plan to pull that one off?).

We also have the Swine flu to "worry" about. Another possibility and another potential false flag "psyop" on the people in order to further clamp down on freedom. I still foresee bombs, the threat of more terrorism, phoney wars (in which real people die and suffer) and the like to create more fear and more control, etc. but the "Mother Nature" false flag is already up and running...good call Psyops.

Adieu! (That better?)

-the Corsican.

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Thanks for your thoughts Corsican

Yes. global warming it is a good distraction. Not to say it is not a problem though. It is like the distracting hand of the magician, "look at global warming", while the other hand unleashes far worse.

Global warming is just one of the leavers for the de-population plan, like weakening the world's immune system. When they have finished 'they' will have plenty of nice places to hang out, while the world grows back. It's a long term project, 'they' probably think it is the only way to save the world, as long as their genes stay in the pool and are among the survivors. No matter how many weapons one might have at one's disposal, they are not going to help. We're all going down.

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No problem.

I've far from being sold on Global Warming. There are a lot of serious holes in the theory.

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"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, is still true."

Our opinions really don't matter. It's either true or not and what we think has no bearing on it, whatsoever.

For my opinion, though, I'll go with this paraphrased quote from another thread "ask the polar bears if it's true".

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