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The Corsican · #1 (**permalink**) 11-05-2009, 02:30 PM

Gore Not Interested In Solutions To Climate Change That Don’t Line His Pockets

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, November 5, 2009

Al Gore has been on the defensive over his financial motives for pushing for a cap and trade system to reduce CO2 emissions, arguing that he is merely putting his money where his mouth is, however, a startling revelation in a recent Newsweek article proves that Gore is only interested in solutions to environmental problems that line his pockets.

For argument’s sake, let’s accept the highly contentious premise that the life-giving gas that humans exhale and plants absorb, carbon dioxide, is a dastardly evil threat to the planet, despite the fact that Al Gore himself admits CO2 is not the major driver of global warming.

If there was a solution to neutralize CO2 emissions that didn’t involve devastating the economy, taxing the citizens into oblivion, de-industrializing the west and giving government huge regulatory powers over our private lives, would Al Gore, Maurice Strong and the rest of the kingpins of the globalist environmental movement be interested?

You can bet your bottom dollar they’re not interested.

One of Gore’s global warming advisers, CEO Timothy LaSalle, told Gore’s team that CO2 emissions could be neutralized completely by clever use of agriculture and technology, without the need for a global carbon tax or the use of cap and trade systems that Gore, along with people like the Rothschilds, Maurice Strong and Barack Obama, have a huge financial stake in promoting.

The Newsweek article states:

“If we feed the biology and manage grasslands appropriately, we could sequester as much carbon as we emit,” says Timothy LaSalle, CEO of the Rodale Institute, who presented at two summits. The political clash is this: if you tell people soils can be managed to suck up lots of our carbon emissions, it sounds like a get-out-of-jail-free card, and could decrease what little enthusiasm there is for reducing those emissions—as one of Gore’s assistants told LaSalle in asking him to dial down his estimate. (He didn’t.)

So there you have it – LaSalle proposed a way of solving the CO2 issue but was basically told to shove it by Gore’s team because the methods he advocated would eliminate the need for what Gore and his cronies are really pursuing, nightmare regulation, taxation, and control over American’s lives, along with billions of dollars flooding into the coffers of Gore and the rest of the “carbon billionaire” globalists via the carbon trading systems they own.

“Could it be that Mr Gore and his team want the US economy and its free market system to be overturned regardless of the science? Could it be that they do not want to know about any science that does not allow them to tax and interfere in the lives of every American?” ask Ann McElhinney and Phelim McAleer.

“This is an outrageous interference in science for a political purpose. But what is the political purpose? Al Gore has called for stopping the use of fossil fuels and the complete restructuring of the economy in the US within ten years but when offered a chance to remove “harmful” CO2 from the atmosphere his team tries to change the science.”

That’s because Gore doesn’t give a damn about the science and he doesn’t give a damn about the environment. Like the rest of the vultures circling around the rich pickings of the global warming fraud, his only interest is in feasting on the corpse of the U.S. economy and the American taxpayer once he manages to ram though the cap and trade scam that will enrich the very carbon trading systems he owns.

-the Corsican.

freetolive · #2 (**permalink**) 11-05-2009, 02:56 PM

"Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill"
Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill | Politics | Reuters

Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A controversial climate change bill cleared its first hurdle in the U.S. Senate on Thursday, allowing President Barack Obama to tout progress in the run-up to next month's global warming talks in Copenhagen.
Democrats on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee ignored a Republican boycott and used their majority to approve the legislation that would require U.S. industry to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases 20 percent by 2020, from 2005 levels.
"I think this is a great signal for Copenhagen that there's a will to do what it takes to advance this issue," committee Chairman Barbara Boxer told reporters after her panel voted.

Seem as if its a busy week on the hill...

The Corsican · #3 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 04:19 AM

Yup,

A busy week building up the police state around the American people.

-the Corsican.

6951A · #4 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 04:48 AM

Corsican, did you read the /next/ paragraph from the article you were quoting out of?

"To his credit, Gore sides with the science, letting the political chips fall where they may. He writes that soils could sequester an additional 15 percent of annual global CO2 emissions from fossil fuels. That could cut 50 parts per million of CO2 from the atmosphere over the next 50 years. (We are now at 387, up from 280 before the industrial era, with 450 ppm or even less a dangerous level.) To encourage changes in agriculture that would foster carbon sequestration, Gore advocates moving away from price supports and toward paying farmers for "how much carbon they can put into and keep in their soil," he says. Paying farmers to sequester carbon might jump-start the use of biochar, which Gore calls "one of the most exciting new strategies for restoring carbon to depleted soils, and sequestering significant amounts of CO2." Biochar, which he learned about during a 1989 trip to the Amazon, is basically porous charcoal. Made by burning switch grass, corn husks, and other waste, it can absorb CO2 like a charcoal filter in a cigarette absorbs gases. Gore estimates that biochar could sequester 40 percent of annual CO2 emissions"

Or the previous one?

"Soils scientist Rattan Lal of Ohio State University was surprised to get a call last summer ("Vice President Gore would like to talk to you") that began, "I have 15 or 20 questions about soils and climate for you." Lal calculates that if more farmers adopted mulching, no-till farming, and the use of cover crops and manure, 3,700 million acres worldwide could sequester 1 gigaton per year of CO2, roughly 12 percent of annual global emissions."

Just because there is one person out there, who is identified not as a scientist in the article, but the CEO of some foundation, who says we can do 100% carbon sequestration in soil doesn't make it so. Let's follow the science, which is what Gore appears to be doing.

The Corsican · #5 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 05:02 AM

Did you read the entire article?

Because the gist of it is that Gore, the criminal that he is, is ignoring everything and anything that will take money out of his pocket. The man is a liar and doesn't care about the environment, he cares about money and power. Why don't you look into the whole cap and trade carbon scam and see it for what it is, a drive towards feudalism and a complete deconstruction of freedom in our country. Once it happens it will be too late and an "I told you so" just won't suffice. Neither will a "Man, I wish I would have listened when I had the chance" because we'll all be in the same mess together.

You aren't part of their group, you're not an elite. Just because you hold the same views as them doesn't mean they're going to give you a pass. And this political correctness and left/right deception game will only increase the ignorance and arrogance of those who want big government. Until people realize it's all a big show and the politicians hold no party loyalties at all (back room dealers) we're going to get exactly what we deserve.

-the Corsican.

HookerRoad · #6 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 09:00 AM

I don't think there is any stopping them. In fact I think we have a run away train. I don't think they can stop it now either... the wheels have been set in motion.

freetolive · #7 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 09:47 AM

OSU has been doing lots of good works here on the local level with the farmers. I've seen farmers plant cover crops this year. I've also read were Hemp would make a excellent rotation crop, yet have not heard mention of it in any of the rhetoric coming from the Hill. Maybe its buried in the legislative language somewhere? Unfortunately, I think the use of cover crops and hemp interfere with the likes of Monsanto's mission and line of products. I personally do not trust Al Gore as far as I could throw him, or a carbon trading scheme. On top of that the state just keeps buying up more land here in the name of protection, yet unemployment is still very high. It seems those millions of $$ could have been spent putting some folks back to work. I dunno...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6951A

"Soils scientist Rattan Lal of Ohio State University was surprised to get a call last summer ("Vice President Gore would like to talk to you") that began, "I have 15 or 20 questions about soils and climate for you." Lal calculates that if more farmers adopted mulching, no-till farming, and the use of cover crops and manure, 3,700 million acres worldwide could sequester 1 gigaton per year of CO2, roughly 12 percent of annual global emissions."

The Corsican · #8 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 10:27 AM

You're exactly right Free.

These people (like Gore) have been caught time and time again fudging numbers, using bad science to support their criminal political agendas (think global government). They even admit to it and have been caught on film saying it yet there are still millions of people out there who support them and believe their lies. I just cannot grasp that no matter how hard I try. Is the group-think so powerful that even in the face of hard evidence people still choose the manipulation over the truth? And all for what? Because denial is somehow comforting those who wish to stick their heads in the sand and proclaim everything is fine?

I see a steady downward spiral with no hope in sight. The American people are too far gone to do anything, short of some horrible catastrophe befalling them on a personal level. Our country has done a total 180 degree turn. We've gone from Freedom to Fascism within a few short decades. We've been fooled into thinking that socialism is democracy and that democracy is the form of government our forefathers set up for us and it's all a bunch of lies. People contribute to our political system by allow themselves to be manipulated into the false left/right paradigm of divide and conquer. Nothing ever changes for the better, our country continues to sink in the mire and people still go out and vote the next criminal into office, even believing that somehow things will change even though the system is flawed at its core.

-the Corsican.

necros · #9 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 12:55 PM

Corsican,

Why do you continue to re-post articles from Prison Planet.com ? That website is full of disinformation and I'm surprised you keep falling for it.

The Corsican · #10 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 03:05 PM

90% of the articles hosted on Inforwars.com (or Prison Planet) come from a myriad of places. Some come from mainstream papers and news channels, others are written in house, etc.

What exactly are you assuming I'm falling for? Disinformation exists everywhere, the key is knowing how to pick out the truth from the disinformation. I personally don't like Alex Jones at all and agree that he is a disinfo agent. The only value I find in him is all the articles his guys pull together from all over the net.

By the way, don't assume I'm falling for anything. At least ask me about something before assuming I'm an idiot.

-the Corsican.

necros · #11 (**permalink**) 11-07-2009, 08:22 AM

But the other articles it links to are also Prison Planet! (The other one You Helped Us Make History! has a banner pic of Gore with "not evil, just wrong" next to it).

Yes there is a newsweek (not that I read them) quote that this whole article kind of revolves around. But there are no quotes from Gore (that I could see) or his representatives. There are no real facts (or anything pretending to be facts) presented here regarding co2 in the ground that I can tell. I came away from this thread not knowing what Gore really stands for on this issue or what these articles are trying to say about the science. Only that it was trying to prove that Gore is getting rich doing his environmental thing (wow, no way) and not doing a very good job at proving that.

I'm not trying to defend Gore, just using common sense man!

No asssumtions here, I'm just going with what is posted. If you agree Alex Jones is a disinfo agent why do you continue to read his website and post things like "I see a steady downward spiral with no hope in sight."? If you continually read websites like this, well then it's kind of obvious why you feel that way!

I'm open to a discussion on Gore, the science of co2, or corruption in politics as long it is based in reality (haha is that even possible?).

SmokeToLive · #12 (**permalink**) 11-07-2009, 09:27 AM

I think the problem people are having here is that there are many accusations but not a lot of supporting evidence behind those accusations. That doesn't make them wrong necessarily, but it certainly doesn't make them right.

And then there is the common sense part: "Just because there is one person out there, who is identified not as a scientist in the article, but the CEO of some foundation, who says we can do 100% carbon sequestration in soil doesn't make it so. Let's follow the science, which is what Gore appears to be doing."

If Gore is a corrupt money hungry former politician, then what about a CEO with a magic carbon pill?

This is one of the weakest attacks on Gore I have yet to see.

The Corsican · #13 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 06:51 AM

I disagree.

There is a massive amount of evidence! Again, Inforwars.com is just a trading house of information, nothing more (in my view). I could pull up ten articles that come from ten different places that are all posted on the infowars site. I could also search other alternative news sites and find the same articles. As for this being a "weak" attack on Gore I would disagree again. His manipulative and pseudo-scientific propaganda film is pretty much all anyone would really need to investigate to learn the whole global warming scam is just that, a scam to relieve us of our sovereignty and freedom.

I guess it's common sense because I disagree with you? I explained it clearly the first time. All media outlets should be suspect, especially the mainstream sources. Just because Jones is a money whore doesn't mean that all the articles on his site are bogus. Jones is a fear-monger. He makes money off of fear and paranoia and makes obscure predictions that can't help but insulate him from the "slow children".

I've made my mind up on Global warming, meaning it is a myth. I've seen the establishment take us from "We're going into another ice age" to "The planet is dying because of global warming" all in a few scant decades. Before that there was the "Report from Iron Mountain" a think tank created by Kennedy to figure out how to control the population of the world in the absence of war. Do you want to know what their number one replacement was? A false paradigm of environmental armageddon.

Wars are not started in the way most people imagine they are and there is nothing accidental about them. The reason there is war is because people are easier to manipulate and control when they are stricken with fear. Why do you think we've been in a state of perpetual war for so long? Ever since the Department of Defense was created we've constantly been at war. When we had a War department at least we saw some respite from war. It's a reflection of Orwell's book, 1984. Peace means war, love means hate, etc. Everything is upside down.

Before Alex Jones ever appeared on the scene (I think he's a government shill myself) there were learned men exposing this conspiracy tirelessly. Alex Jones discredits the truth by making a jackass out of himself and anyone associated with him. Another piece of the disinformation puzzle. In order to slow down a movement or mass awakening you first have to discredit it.

I think a good use of common sense is to realize pretty much everything around us has been manipulated to keep us ignorant. No part of the system has been untouched by the conspiracy. I can show you congressional records that prove 90% of the things I've been saying. This economy didn't crash by accident, the global warming theory did not gain mass acceptance by accident either. You'll always find the same money behind these lies....Who Benefits?

-the Corsican.

Sprocket · #14 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 07:05 AM

i am a realist. i believe facts, not loose speculation.
that being said, there is more scientific proof proving global warming than disproving it.
helen kellar, God rest her soul, would be able to see that it is true.
if there were other explanations, those would be discussed as well.

this guy has always been right......compare his theories and observations of yesterday to the facts of today.

The Corsican · #15 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 10:45 AM

I strongly disagree and think you're dead wrong. There are more scientists against a belief in the global warming theory (and it is just a weak theory, no fact at all) then there are supporting it. I'm not sure what you've been reading or who you've been talking to but the debate is far from over. You have scientists connected to the U.N. that refuse to accept the fact that the sun affects and drives the weather on planet earth for Pete's sake! Even a child can see that. Helen Keller on the other hand would have somewhat of a problem seeing it.

I'm a realist also and I'm no spring chicken. I remember when the very same scientists were telling the masses that we were heading into a second ice age. Hey, what ever happened to all those holes in the ozone layer? We don't hear much about them in the mainstream news anymore, do we? Why is that? Don't you remember when that was the driving fear of the day? Now it's global warming and tomorrow it will be something different. Just like the Cold War and when it ended they had to develop a new paradigm of fear in order to control and manipulate the people (The War on Terror).

The evidence for never-ending government lies and manipulation is plain for anyone who wants to see it to see it. History is overflowing with factual evidence that proves beyond all doubt that governments are corrupt and have no problem killing and murdering their own people in order to protect their power. Believe what you like brother but in the end the truth will be plain for all to see.

-the Corsican.

Sprocket · #16 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 11:12 AM

i respectfully agree to disagree, my friend.

freetolive · #17 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 11:14 AM

Regardless if global warming is true or not...we have a "Smart Grid" coming that is going to be utilizing the insecure internet infrastructure.

SmokeToLive · #18 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 11:56 AM

You're all over the map on this one dude. This isn't personal, it's about the article.

They never did show that the magic carbon pill worked. This was just an attack piece. Hence the lack of evidence. I could go further and show all the points that they failed to back up, but I don't really need to as there are plenty of people that see it. And there may be massive amounts of evidence, but this article certainly doesn't contain those amounts.

There are way better arguments against global warming and Gore than this article. Disagree if you would like, but if this is the end all be all of anti-Gore sentiment, I expect it to fall flat on its face.

Besides, just saying the evidence is out there is much different / less effective than making it part of your argument, hence the issues with this article.

freetolive · #19 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 04:36 PM

There is no "Blood and Gore" on this deal?

The Corsican · #20 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 05:05 PM

Gore is the front man for the whole scam so anything relating to him is interesting to me. For some reason you're defending a known criminal and I can't really figure out why?

-the Corsican.