I got my renewal/medical review last week to qualify for another year of MMJ.

While I was there, my doctor started talking about how she has recently had to LIMIT HER REVIEWS TO PEOPLE **OVER 35** YEARS OF AGE because of an influx of (younger) folks who are trying to "qualify" for the program without any qualifying ailments or MEDICAL NEED.

This is one reason I have been so critical towards those here who are approaching this (site) subject casually or for profit as if their actions have no bearing on anyone else. Things ARE changing...mainly because of the way California operates... (licenses for hangnails and runny noses) and IMO, much of what is happening in CA makes a MOCKERY out of the programs in other states and lends SOME (DEA and right-wingers) to believe that MMJ is merely a cover for recreational use, cultivation, and profit.

but hey...whatever...right? Since it should be legal for all...who cares about Medical patients anyway? (GP?)

Stand for something or you stand for nothing....

btdt

while I see your point, please remember that this site is for all smokers, medical and otherwise. AndI've had this discussion with severely ailed patients. A lot of whom think that migraine "headaches"(more like headcracks) aren't severe enough to get MMJ, same for anxiety. well, we give hard benzo's to people with anxiety,and morphine type drugs that are stronger than heroin to people with migraines. Yet only one state my ailments these under it's acceptable use law, Cali. While they do play fast and loose with their MMJ system, it does work to an extent.

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No problem, kiehatoka...I shall try to remember...

however, if this site is a site for *all smokers, medical and otherwise* and is *not* a medical site...may I suggest you nix the Medical Cross from the logo? To me, that sign represents healing and Compassion and a medical focus and is a bit decieving if GP is, in fact, *just another* recreational pot forum.

be well all.

btdt

Well said Kieahtoka, I couldnt of agree with you more.Btdt yes there is a high rate of younger poeple trying to get med cards,can you blame them for not wanting to go to jail for smokeing.Yes it dose put a strain on the system and this why we need the states to run this better than they are doing.The doctors are good ones and bad ones,that's been that way for ever.Bad ones making a buck off it and putting a black mark on Med-Mj.But like kieahtoka said this site is for ALL poeple Med and recreation poeple.This is a learning site for all poeple to learn from here and each other and now other sites that are affilliated with us.Even if we dont agree with each other we must be respectable of there opinions they of ours too.You catch more flys with the honey than vinegar.Peace

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I must step in here. Many of our members are medical cannabis smokers. Many are not. We focus on the medical use of cannabis. We help many many people here. We wish to progess this fight on ALL fronts.

This rift between both sides is not good. I understand and commend you for your stance, btdt. Do not devalue our work here to promote law changes. We all and I mean ALL have to work together to progress this fight.

Stop with this splitting up into sides. This is not what it is about at all. If you have a constructive suggestion, fine, post that. We do so much that is not public knowledge and we are working sooo hard. On many many fronts.

Please cut us a break. I will not have discord on this site, in ANY FORM WHATSOEVER.

THIS IS A DRAMA FREE SITE AND I WILL NOT HAVE THIS CHANGED BY MEMBERS DISAGREEING.

Please!

PEACE

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This site is primarily about medicinal cannabis, however all tokers are welcome here. We will not discriminate against anyone in favor of changing these archaic and ignorant laws against nature.
We are working with medicinal and non-medicinal users alike in an effort to effect positive change for everyone. Not just medicinal users, but everyone.
If you can't see that, or if you do not approve of that, then by all means go elsewhere. No one is forcing you to stay btdt.
If you continue perpetuating drama, you will no longer be welcome here. It is as simple as that. I don't know how I can be more clear about this.

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recreational use has allways been a part of the marijuana culture and now i dont think theres any need to be a hypocrite btdt as u do the same thing as a recreational user does which is smoke bud or cannabis. only you do it for medical reasons.there are recreational users that are fighting in the front lines for medical marijuana users passing laws,voting and every other thing that has to do with legalization.so dont put me down because you have a perscription.and another thing if you dont think good of gp then get lost dude.we are peaceful smokers over hear and have allways let it be known this site is for mm users as well as rec users try to have a lil respect and compassion for all them dude.peace man.

I don’t agree with the positions Btdt stands on, but I certainly agree that he has a right to publicly state them without a fear of being framed for doing it so. Same stands with me and others. As with the all the movements, this one will thrive only if all sides are heard and all proposals considered. If issues are constantly kept under the rug, we all will ultimately loose.

This board has a good means to check if someone’s ideas are accepted by the board or not – and that is ‘Thank you’ button. Many ‘Thank you’ should mean that presented idea is well accepted and popular inside this community and lack of ‘Thank you’ should mean that idea is not very popular. It would be easy to make a sticky post about when and why ‘Thank you’ should be used.

By establishing ‘thank you’ criteria everyone would gain. Conflicts would be minimized, benefits would be maximized, and all sides would be heard.

I beleive people already do that judicously Gord. We have enough rules and boundries in life. I don't know that something that is so obvious as the "Thank You" should be "Ruled" in this way. It already gives us this criteria daily.

Peace

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Changing things for the better for all smokers will also change things for the better for medical smokers. And it will also lead to less harassment of medical users overall! The question is, do you want to create an environment where marijuana is a positive thing? Or do you just want to restrict it to medical use? Because if we stop there, believe me the opposition will let us.

THANK YOU!

You have explained it all so simply! What I have been pounding my head to explain to people all week.

Welcome to GreenPassion!

Peace

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my thoughts exactly. well put.

If you have the ability to help someone and make their life better, does it matter what color they are?

A lot of people over 35 are doing the same thing as the ones under 35. The doctors are the ones responsible for giving recomendations to people that dont have a legit problem. My first doctor was doing the same thing. Giving recamendations to anyone that had the money. I went to a dipensary and they said he was questionable. So I found a legitimate one when it was time for renewal. You cant blame anyone for giving it a try. Better to be legal then not if you can.

It is much easier to help someone, if they're GREEN.

Pappy

i guess i need all the help in the world then cause im green as hell pappy lol.

good thing i wasnt here for this, i'd have a field day

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I think this part of their program actually, that is why the CA law is practically such a soft one. They know that cannabis is popular among all age groups for recreational use and everyone is running and hiding from the prohibitionists, so soft MMJ laws will attract the same protection as actually sick people. On the other hand I wouldn't condemn any license holder just because of age below 35 or even 18 years of age, hack if a doctor thinks that the usage is of benefit for the patient as a kid with ADHS i surely would rather have them cookie then this meth stuff they feed em with.

The soft laws invite for sure a few too many that have no good reason to enjoy this protection. this will be the coming base for the DEA argumentation that this mess has to cleaned out before the DEA can obey State laws that protect patients which all leads to huge crack down on everyone, they are sinister enough. Fill all this new FEMA camps with harmless tokers.

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I don't usually revive dead stuff. But, in this case, I think it's merited.

Since American science has been prohibited from studying cannabis and how cannabinoids act in the human body for so long, we are way behind, compared to what we know about other drugs. We are only now learning that the human body was made to have cannabinoids in it! There is a whole sytem within the body that was previously unknown - the endocannabinoid system. Not only are cannabinoids not harmful, but we are discovering they are beneficial in many, many aspects of human health, both physical and psychological.

So, as a 15 year AIDS patient, I think it might just be good for stubbed toes and hangnails, too!

Let's face it - it really is good for what ails ye!

But, we have to fight this battle one step at a time, I guess.

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well almost all of america theres one college in i think alabama that has gov approval to study. . . as long as the results are showing negative on anything good about mj.
and i beleive everyone who uses is doing so medicinally be it physical ailments aches and pains or the ones of the heart soul spirit and mind. thats just my two cents

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