Active Duty Troops In Iraq Are Wearing Oath Keeper Tabs




Stewart Rhodes
Oath Keepers
October 9, 2009.






The above photo was submitted by an active duty Oath Keeper in Mosul Iraq, sporting an Oath Keepers tab. As his other tab and patch make clear, he is also a “Three Percenter.” (see below)


The photo was also posted over at the Sipsey Street Irregulars blog with this message:

Just thought the WRSA [Western Rifle Shooters Association] and the Sipsey Street boys might like to see what we are wearing while over here in Iraq. We . . . know what the deal is, and when the time comes (which it will), we know where we stand and continue to make preparations for it.



Keep up the good work! Regards from Mosul,
K7C.

All I can say to that is Hooah! Thank you for your service, K7C, and for stepping up. Give our best regards to your brothers in arms, and let them know we have your six back home. If any of you need anything at all, from socks to helmets, to body armor, just ask and it will be provided. We need you to stay safe and come home healthy.


Oath Keepers here stateside, let your brothers on active duty in Iraq know how you feel. They do come here to read comments, count on that.
Note that the tab in the photo is not the same tab we sell here on our site (which is more of a police style tab). We are having military ACU style tabs with velcro made up, but they are not yet finished. That means the troops are having their own Oath Keeper tabs made up! And no, we did not put them up to it. They are doing this on their own initiative.


So take heart! The message of the oath and its obligations is spreading, and the Guardians of the Republic are listening and responding. And every time you act to spread the message, by whatever means, you cannot know what impact you will have, or how far it will reach. That’s why it’s so crucial that we each do what we can to reach, teach, and inspire as many active duty as possible about their obligation to defend the Constitution and their duty to refuse unlawful orders that would violate the rights of their fellow Americans.


Upcoming Outreach Effort to Put Tabs, DVD’s, and OK Handbooks in the Hands of Active Duty service men and women.


Coincidentally, the tabs those troops are wearing are almost exactly like the tabs we are having made for our upcoming care package initiative, which will put an Oath Keeper tab, DVD, Oath Keepers handbook, copy of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and other outreach materials, into the hands of active duty deployed worldwide. We plan on launching that effort on Veteran’s Day, November 11 and continuing right on through Bill of Rights Day, December 15, with the goal of delivering all the care packages by Christmas. Now imagine what that will be like! Tens of thousands of our troops reached with the message and a tab. I will post more details very soon.


What’s a Three Percenter?
Now, seeing the other tab and patch in the photo, you may ask “what is a three percenter?” The narrowest definition is that three percenters are hard-line gun owners who are done backing up and will not comply with more infringements of their right to bear arms. A broader definition would be that they are hard-line Americans who are done backing up and will not comply with further infringement of any of their rights. It also alludes to the three percent of the colonists who took to the field against the King during the Revolution, and the estimation that at least three percent of modern Americans will actively fight, if it comes to it, to preserve liberty.



Read this essay for more explanation.


Oath Keepers and Three Percenters are separate groups, but it is not a surprise to see people who consider themselves both an Oath Keeper and a Three Percenter. If you read the supplied links you will see why.
While we Oath Keepers have a specialized mission of outreach to current serving, focused on the oath and on refusing to obey unlawful orders, there’s lots of common ground and shared commitment to the Republic among both groups.


Go here to read what the Sipsey Street blog has to say about that.


Oath Keepers, expect to see more of these tabs popping up soon, even before we begin our care package initiative. You are making a real difference. Keep up the good work!


For the Republic,
Stewart Rhodes.



Hey everyone,

I'd like to hear some opinions about this. I personally like what I'm seeing. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights have been getting trampled on for far too long. The big push to eradicate them came in 2001 after the attacks on September 11th. With bills like the Patriot Act and executive orders like PDD 51 we need a force for good in our country, unwilling to follow illegal orders that defy the highest laws of the land, i.e., The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.



-the Corsican.

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This requires further investigation.

Thanks for the heads-up, Corsicano.

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Having been a member of the U.S.M.C., I had to follow orders. Some of the orders I followed may have been unlawful. However, it is quite difficult for a lowly, enlisted grunt, with a limited education to discern a lawful order from an unlawful order. There were many things going on, ... who is to know.

Who decides which is which.

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A couple things wrong here... First, you can't just go putting whatever you want on your uniform without the proper authority, being out of uniform will get these men article 15 write ups and some disciplinary action. Second... Although it is an old rule, and rarely followed unless absolutely necessary, you can't not obey orders, especially in a combat situation. If you do this then technically your CO or platoon sgt. has the authority to put you in jail, or in extreme cases, shoot you.

Even if you refuse an order that you think is unlawful you will still be jailed until your court martial, the ***** is this... even if you prove that the order was unlawful and you had no duty to follow it, you still get court martial for disobeying it. The UCMJ is an antique document (universal code of military justice)... If anyone truly followed that guide you can't even get head or have sex other than in the missionary position without risk of court martial.

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the badges appear to stuck on with velcro probably just for the picture.

What I find disturbing is not that some good folks wish to uphold and defend the constitution, which is a fine and proper thing to want to do... but that the consitution seem to have only really become important since Obama was elected. I note that this is referenced back to 9/11 and Bush riding rough shod over all the things the US claims to hold dear... but where were these now conspicuos military people while Bush was reaming the country?

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What disturbs me is that most people fail to distinguish possible threats and actual threats, especially surrounding gun ownership. A possible threat to gun ownership was Obama being elected. An actual threat is a bill that just passed committee. But regardless, there is a sad element at play here.

Gun owners need to step back and take some responsibility for their voting record. We have a mostly Republican appointed SCOTUS and even they ruled recently that laws restricting gun ownership are legal. They are as much to blame for the situation as anyone else. Bringing out your gun and demanding your rights, or else, in the face of the monster you helped create is ridiculous.

Besides. Take a step back and ask yourself for a second: Who are they going to fight?

We got into our current mess without killing each other, and we can get out that way as well.

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Huh?

"Having been a member of the U.S.M.C., I had to follow orders. Some of the orders I followed may have been unlawful. However, it is quite difficult for a lowly, enlisted grunt, with a limited education to discern a lawful order from an unlawful order. There were many things going on, ... who is to know.

- If you followed unlawful orders Charlie then that's on you. You took an oath to defend the Constitution (The Supreme law of the land) from enemies foreign and domestic. It's quite difficult to do the right thing and beat your own path rather then follow the unthinking herd of the ignorant masses. It doesn't take an intellectual to understand the Bill of rights or to think for yourself. Unlawful orders are pretty straightforward for the most part. Why take an oath you do not fully comprehend/understand?

"the badges appear to stuck on with velcro probably just for the picture."

- Did you read the article? My cousin is in Northern Iraq. He was on a sub. They're shipping Navy personal over there to fight the ground war and lead men into battle. Their badges are stuck on with Velcro, meaning the official badges of rank that the military hands out. The last time I saw my cousin his sergeant's strips were Velcro. They do things differently now a days. In combat it's not the brightest thing to advertise that you're an officer or leader to your enemy, hence Velcro.

"What I find disturbing is not that some good folks wish to uphold and defend the constitution, which is a fine and proper thing to want to do... but that the consitution seem to have only really become important since Obama was elected."

- Not true at all. More of the same "Oh, it's about Obama" mumbo-jumbo. Oath Keepers has been around since Bush because it was Bush who began unraveling the Constitution after 911. Now Obama is following suit and strengthening policies that Bush implemented plus adding more detrimental and unconstitutional laws and policies in his own right. It's got nothing to do with the pseudo left/right paradigm.

"Gun owners need to step back and take some responsibility for their voting record. We have a mostly Republican appointed SCOTUS and even they ruled recently that laws restricting gun ownership are legal.They are as much to blame for the situation as anyone else.

- It's got nothing to do with voting, that's secondary. It's not just republican or democrat divide and conquer going on here either. Their are many democrats who support the 2nd amendment and own firearms. Don't turn a constitutional issue into democrat/republican issue. They didn't rule any such thing! According to the constitution, there shall be no infringement (no laws infringing the right to bear arms in defense of one's self, family or country!) to the 2nd amendment. What's the situation? What exactly are you talking about, seriously, not trying to be a smart ass, what situation?

Although it is an old rule, and rarely followed unless absolutely necessary, you can't not obey orders, especially in a combat situation.

- Wrong. An illegal order is an illegal order. No military personal ever have to follow an illegal order, especially when it pertains to combat.

Even if you refuse an order that you think is unlawful you will still be jailed until your court martial, the ***** is this... even if you prove that the order was unlawful and you had no duty to follow it, you still get court martial for disobeying it.

- Partially correct. There have been many cases were a soldier disobeyed an unlawful order and was honorably discharged or remained serving in the military. I agree however about what you wrote earlier. An officer can shoot a soldier who refuses to do his duty or follow a lawful order. Cowards (those who refused to fight on the battlefield during combat) were sometimes shot right on the spot.

I'm kind of surprised at all the wishy-washiness going on here. Don't get me wrong you're all entitled to your opinions but wow! The Constitution is not an outdated document. If it was followed and upheld we'd have a much better, much freer country to live in and enjoy. Those old men made mistakes and their are weaknesses to be found in the Constitution but the Bill of Rights is not one of them. The laws on the books (gun control) are in direct conflict with the 2nd amendment (Constitution). All gun control is a bad thing. Disagree? Then go research a little history and find out the truth. Don't be fooled by liberal sophistry (or right wing sophistry either!) or over-emotional fascists that would like every man, women and child to be completely defenseless in the face of danger.

This type of thinking and unreasoning is akin to suicide. Want to depend on the police instead of yourself? Well, they'll be there after you've been shot an killed or after your wife or daughter has been raped by some scumbag. It takes the police time to respond to an emergency call, too much time when your life is being threatened.

When people are killed by drunk drivers or in automobile accindents we do not outlaw cars. When people die from overeating we don't outlaw forks and spoons or fatty foods do we? Physicians kill many thousands of people every year. I guess we should outlaw them too.

Inanimate objects are inanimate objects. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Accidents happen whether it's a gun or a flight of stairs.

-the Corsican.

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Of course I read the article. Someone suggested that to wear the badges would make the soldier out of uniform and subject to discipline. I merely pointed out that it is easy to put these badges on for a photo shoot. If it is the truth that these people would get into trouble, I somehow doubt that they would be wearing them all the time. In other words the picture proves absolutely nothing, do I need to spell it out? I thought that it was pretty obvious.
It is just a photo of some twonk being bigsy, probably a kid who has not even finished college dressed up for a laugh.
I don't have any relatives in Iraq I am thankful to say.

I would just like to declare that I keep my toe in the water of international politics etc. I don't agree with you, I will leave it there

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No,

No need to spell it out. I'm not happy he's in Iraqi by any means. It's an illegal war, an invasion of a sovereign country for profit and control, nothing more. You don't have to agree but you can't refute facts. You can talk around them, deceive yourself, (talking about no one in specific) etc., but some things are not open to opinion. Having said that, I respect you for having self control. I know how it is to keep your mouth shut when you'd rather not, knowing that it will probably turn ugly or be a pointless waste of time.

I understand your point (the Obama thing) because of course their are idiots out there (on the right and the left) that only speak up when the opposite side (ridiculous left/right pseudo paradigm) is doing something wrong. But when their "side" does the same thing they are silent. What happened to the war protests? Where have the democrats gone since Obama has taken the reins? Where are the antiwar activists on Afghanistan? Get my drift? It's all hypocrisy, all a sick joke.

-the Corsican.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

Voting is not secondary here. Being upset about losing guns is being upset at a legislative threat. Which means politics. Which means voting. There are Democrats that support gun ownership, yes, but you missed something important.

That is why I asked the big question: Who are they going to fight?

The Republican platform promises gun rights. So when this comes to fighting, how is the country going to divide? On pro-gun/anti-gun lines? Or will it be the false dichotomy continually propped up by our corrupted system?

And voting is not secondary in other ways, because voting is key to participating in our political system.

So how many people along what lines of division are you happy to see shot and killed? (Because that is the reality that this is promising.)

(The extra frightening thing is to consider one of your recent posts about overthrowing the government in light of someone prepared to do that for a reason that is obviously been used very heavily in the political arena -- for manipulation.)

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You're missing the point Smoke,

There is no real political system. Voting has turned into a joke on the national level. I believe in and support grass roots movements but trying to change the system is like a leopard trying to change its spots, it just isn't going to happen. I'll quote Einstein again, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." The majority of the American people are either the most optimistic people on the face of the earth or they are completely insane. Since I talk to American people every day I would say they fit the latter description.

As for fighting, I'm not for fighting. A bloody civil war may well be on the way but it is not the route I would personally choose. Besides the fact that most people wanting to see a civil war have no idea, no conception of what they are really asking for, it would probably wind up destroying the country in the end.

"(The extra frightening thing is to consider one of your recent posts about overthrowing the government in light of someone prepared to do that for a reason that is obviously been used very heavily in the political arena -- for manipulation.)"

Would you mind elaborating Smoke, you lost me? Do you mean the recent post of the Washington speech writer? If so then I get it. What most Americans are not aware of is that we are in serious trouble on all fronts. We are not some gigantic unstoppable force that can never lose. History is repeating itself. All one needs to do is take a look at Germany a few years before WWII to see what's going on in America right now. The people want a savior and the masses have found that savior in Obama. It's frightening to be honest. People are making Obama synonymous with Jesus Christ. People are worshiping the man and he hasn't done anything worthy of praise. Think about the whole Nobel Prize scam, it's insanity, the cult of personality. History is about to become very dark. We are at a tuning point and it is not a positive branch in the road.

-the Corsican.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

"If at first you don't succeed, it wont hurt to smoke a little weed!"

The system has been changed often in the last several years. It can be moved, and without guns. For example, in some 12-13 states now gay people can get married. That took quite a bit of push, but it happened. Just because it isn't easy, doesn't mean we should drop our efforts for guns.

"As for fighting, I'm not for fighting. A bloody civil war may well be on the way but it is not the route I would personally choose. Besides the fact that most people wanting to see a civil war have no idea, no conception of what they are really asking for, it would probably wind up destroying the country in the end."

This is the best thing you have said in this whole thread. But it takes more than just personally believing it. You can apply that belief to people like the one this article is about. Who do they intend to kill? Who are they planning on killing when the **** hits the proverbial fan?

And yeah, people are making Obama their Saviour, but they're also making him out to be Hitler too, which is equally wrong. It takes a whole system to prop him up. And both the Republicans/Democrats are responsible. So if we go to civil war, who do we kill? Along what lines? Because we're all responsible, and because we've all played their (Ds and Rs) game at one point or another.

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Man. I'd love to shoot one of these 50 cal Sniper rifle, 3 mile capable
For fun

Rofl...

If it means anything to you, Corsican, I like making general arguments for peace even if they only might be required. I tend to shoot peace first and ask questions later. And that gun would still be fun to try -- especially on a target 3 miles away. (See? I'm original/crazy.)

But I think the Internet really is our saving grace. It is our chance to connect and work together. I think we have to start with pointing out the false dichotomy, and getting people to look outside the 2 party box. If we can do that, we have a real chance. But the worst thing that could happen in this country would be a 2012 victory by a Dem/Rep. Well, the worst thing if we don't plan a civil war.

Just getting people to fix the systems involved in voting would go a long ways. But people have to know to care, and have to care to do something.

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The system wanted those changes Smoke. They wantred gay marriage. This is part of what I'm trying to explain. They are tricky, they push society in the direction they have already previously planned by using the Hegelian Dialectic. It's a fancy term but you can break it down to meaning Problem, reaction, solution.

They (the powers that be) create a problem and blame it on whoever or whatever will best suite their needs in controlling the people. Once the problem is created they know how the people will react (because they created the problem in order to elicit a specific response from the masses). The people begin to scream for a solution from the very same people who created the problem in the first place! The solution was the synthesis (Thesis, antithesis, synthesis, i.e., problem, reaction, solution) in which the powers that be had waiting in the wings before they set the problem (a supposed terrorist attack on American soil) into motion.

They've been using this formula for a very long time and it works beautifully.

As for who "they" intend to kill...An oppressive government trying to force their will onto the people. It's as simple as that. It's about freedom and liberty and any true patriot understands this and doesn't want violence of any kind. But when push comes to shove their is a point in which the people will not allow any more infringement on their freedoms. We're reaching the event horizon very quickly.

You see, we haven't had a real government by the people and for the people since 1934. In all honestly the killing blow began in 1913 with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act. What we have now is a de facto government. In 1934 the United States of America went into bankruptcy. We went into receivership to the Federal Reserve (International Bankers). They took over our country. They went slowly at first and then began to pick up the pace by forcing us into war with Germany (another farce of a war). This was a war of consolidation. Before the European Union was established they had been planning and putting together the infrastructure (E.U) for decades. They have been doing the same thing concerning America. What may seem like a sudden and mind blowing change (speaking about what is coming in the U.S.) was in fact a gradual progression, an incremental march of conquest that took many years of planning and manipulation. It may appear like things will change over night but the truth is much different.

The main thing to realize here is that the deck is stacked against us. The system cannot be changed by using the system. Short of a massive American awakening, a true people's movement, we're pretty much sunk. I know you're an optimist but positive thinking will change nothing in this case. The wheels have been in motion for a very long time and it will take a miracle to stop them.

-the Corsican.

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it will likely be "cold" civil war, until push comes to shove.

"All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war." -- Billy Beck, August 2009.

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I'm just not that fatalistic. "They" needs a definition and some proof.

Gay marriage is quite a wedge issue, but it is real people making many changes. Not some conspiracy. And really, I use gay marriage to mean gay rights in general. Pointing real people at the banking problem could be quite effective. Gay people had to fight God though. (In a funny sense.)

In reality, seeing the election swing to Obama says something very positive about our country. The voters were willing to go after change. And the more Obama fails, the more chance people can be shown that Left/Right is really one side. (And that they need other options.)

At that point it's not very hard to show them that they can't get other options because the Dems/Republicans have passed enough laws in most states to keep that from happening. Sometimes I think the only way to get a 3rd party on the ballot in this state would be for that party to be Jesus.

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Listen, you keep making this into an optimist/pessimist issue. You're disregarding the reality of the situation. The proof is easily found, do some leg work. If you want some proof I've offered up a few sources. If you want something a bit easier to get a hold of then go to YouTube and Google "Cecil Rhodes" or "The Round Table Groups. Also Google "John Ruskin" and you'll begin to understand who "They" are.

You're wrong about gay marriage and gay issues in general. You think you're right because you're ignorant of the facts. I say this respectfully. It might offend your delicate sensibilities and it is far from being politically correct but it is just another piece of the puzzle to bring in "their" New World Order. Call me crazy but before you do go and research it. Besides the huge double standard when it comes to the Gay rights issue there are many other related factors at work. It's not just one issue, it is a collection of issues that are interdependent and melt into the whole to create the atmosphere "they" need in order to synthesis "change".

I could care less if people want to be gay. I could care less if they want to call their union marriage. That's their business, not mine. It's not about hating gay people. They have the same rights that I have and I'll defend their right to live in freedom regardless if I agree or disagree with their lifestyle. Unfortunately the smear merchants (mainstream media) must always focus on the fringe nut jobs in order to manipulate the public into thinking anyone who takes a specific stance on the issue must be like the nut jobs.

You want something concrete to research? Find out what the Council of Foreign Relations is, find out what the Trilateral Commission is and learn about the Bilderberger group and ask yourself why the mainstream media refuses to report on the Bilderberger meetings that have been held in the United States on more than one occasion. Let's keep going, learn about The Royal Institute on International Affairs, The Club of Rome, The Tavistock Institute (Chatam House), etc. The subject is vast yet interconnected very closely. Every president for the past 60 years has filled his cabinet with people from these international groups. And I haven't even mentioned Skull & Bones yet.

After that learn about compartmentalization. Once you understand how compartmentalization works it won't be a stretch to understand how these things can go on unnoticed by the masses.

-the Corsican.

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You haven't given me anything credible enough to want to do the legwork. You expect me to make your case for you, which I am not going to do.

And I'm definitely not wrong about the gay issue at all. There is no double standard. Yes, the gay rights movement can push it too far just like anything, but the people behind it are real. And those people have suffered at the hands of others, wrongly. And those people now have a much better chance than they did. But you aren't just talking about the gay rights movement, you're talking about the civil rights movement. And the assumption that all those people have the same freedom as you is just that.

Don't assume I'm stupid either.

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Absolutely you are not stupid. Quite the opposite, you seem rather informed and analytical in your responses. But, hey, maybe there are all kind of spooky people that have been puppeteering for eons that have to kill people to remain in the shadows doing devious things because they are pure evil and want everything to be destroyed. It's probably not just the ebb and flow of political eras and dissidents, changes in the world due to normal rebellions and emerging new states and governances, and the undermining of brutal power for it's folly of arrogance and cruelty. Regimes, Empires, Cultures worldwide, have risen and fallen, have gained control and disappeared into the historical record and have left influences big and small. But it's probably more true that there is a single thread of absolute evil that dictates every single event in every single life and is infallible in it's eminence and permeation. In an absolutist's mind, full of Christian "facts" there is a Satan and a plan for the undermining of "God's" plan. It is a curious delusion and I am completely intrigued by it's implications. You know, both on the causal side as well as the attributed influence on actions and thoughts. But it ignores the historical record. The world has always had conspirators, on multiple sides of powerbases. It only takes two to conspire. Some are successful, and others, I'm guessing a majority of, conspiracies, are not. Just because conspiratorial evidence can be found for some things does not lend correlation to an overall. Much of the popular conspiracy theories are hype, speculation, and weak links that make an effort to ignore factual data, or to make honest investigations. They start from an assumption and attempt to make factual correlations. Some people, some paradigms, are inclined to such a presumption. It is a comfortable explanation, in so much as it has easily assignable blame and an element of identifying an enemy, at the same time relegating the situation away from personal accountability or possible actioning to a defense against it's implications. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist if they claim a conspiratorial world view is not insulting or an assault. Denoting a dismissal of such world views on the basis of their inappropriate standards for proof is also not an attack, although it is absolutely definitive and devisive in the provision of such a distinction. Kudos on providing a standard for reason and the supporting of major claims made.

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