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Team42 · #21 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 08:02 PM

Availability of a difference in opinion is what us a great nation

purplehaze4u · #22 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 08:08 PM

well then my second opinion is this plain and simple if you want to limit talks on here then limit talks on here to one and only legalizing mmj and thats it then why have talk of all the other stuff that you have on here and just talk about how to legalize it.. but there is talk about everything on here from cars (which have nothing to do with it) and songs (nothing at all again) videos of a guy getting high hitting a bong then shooting himself in the head ( but thats cool cause everyone laughed) so where do you draw the line. you say you are about legalizing it but very little talk is about that and most of the talk is on propagating and growing to include everything under the sun.. so remove all of the talk about everything else except promoting legalization this way you are truely sticking to your forum ... lets hear what others have to say

Deb-HAS-grn · #23 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=purplehaze4u;132132]well then my second opinion is this plain and simple if you want to limit talks on here then limit talks on here to one and only legalizing mmj and thats it then why have talk of all the other stuff that you have on here and just talk about how to legalize it.. but there is talk about everything on here from cars (which have nothing to do with it) and songs (nothing at all again) videos of a guy getting high hitting a bong then shooting himself in the head ( but thats cool cause everyone laughed) so where do you draw the line. you say you are about legalizing it but very little talk is about that and most of the talk is on propagating and growing to include everything under the sun.. so remove all of the talk about everything else except promoting legalization this way you are truely sticking to your forum ... lets hear what others have to say[/QUOT

I think you are taking it a bit too far, I understand your point with freedom of speech but, this is a good site with many different things going on here, it makes it informative, entertaining and brings us together in many different ways. Isn't that part of GP is bringing us all together all for a good cause...... Peace

jangel · #24 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 08:56 PM

No one is infringing on anyone's right to do as they please in your life. And this forum is hosted in Canada. In Canada we do not have the right to bare arms without a legal lisence. We don't intend nor imply what people do on their own time, ever. That is up to you.
Since this is a Canadian owned site, your rights are not U.S. rights here. Canadian rights are your rights here. If you want to get technical. And no one is limiting anything. This is why we talk about things, in an adult way. Without getting all up in your face about freedom of speech etc.

As well this site is NOT public domain. It is privately owned and funded. You are in our home, not us in yours. We make the rules. We just courteously ask you to follow them. For all of our wellbeing. I think that is not too much to ask of anyone.

If we decide we don't want posted pics of guns and how to get guns on this site, beleive me, that is how it is going to be. Like it or lump it, but that is it, purple.

Peace

ISO2BWELL · #25 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 09:29 PM

I believe the point Jangel (and others) are trying to make here is that they do not want THIS SITE connected in any way with the combination of *firearms & marijuana*.

LEO will use damn near any tactic to imprison innocent medical patients using MMJ, and if they can, in some twisted, convoluted manner connect a firearm and a cannabis patient they can use that to make it appear that the individual is just another "druggie", and worthy of being scorned and imprisoned. (And don't think for a second that LEO doesn't monitor this site..they do, just like all the other cannabis sites as they are looking for ways to bust folks).

If you want to talk hunting, talk about bowhunting, or save that for another forum more suited.

JMHO (from an American and a firearm owner)

ISO

Trek · #26 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 09:32 PM

As a gun owner, I don't see any problem with checking my guns at the door. I think gun ownership is a personal decision, and the vast majority of gun owners use them only for lawful purposes, such as home defense, recreation, hunting, and in employment.

I agree that the focus here at GP needs to be on Cannabis, and I think all parties recognize that.

The HSIC · #27 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 11:41 PM

First off...I applaud any/all servicmen who have put themselves in danger to protect/establish our freedoms. (RIP Gramps)

however....this site is a privately owned entity...aka..."someone" pays the bandwidth bill every month and had/keeps the idea of GP alive through that payment. Because of that standing, THEY have the right to say what goes/doesn't go and we all have the right to play under those rules or find somewhere else that has rules we can operate under.

In short, you have no rights on the Net. "Free" speech here means you didn't pay squat to rant/rave/give your opinion and that opinion can be revered...agreed with...or deleted at anytime.

research the laws, folks. You are free to a certain point...and after that the ca-ca can hit the fan quick.

Michael · #28 (**permalink**) 08-03-2009, 11:33 AM

Windowpane is dead on the money. There is no freedom of speech on a privately-owned web site. Members here are guests and owners are hosts. As a guest, the idea of demanding your rights on a free forum, supplied at significant cost to the owners, is simply absurd, not to mention rude, in the extreme.

You have no "rights" here - period. That's just the unadorned and unvarnished truth. You don't have to like it.

4maggio · #29 (**permalink**) 08-03-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by purplehaze4u

well then my second opinion is this plain and simple if you want to limit talks on here then limit talks on here to one and only legalizing mmj and thats it then why have talk of all the other stuff that you have on here and just talk about how to legalize it.. but there is talk about everything on here from cars (which have nothing to do with it) and songs (nothing at all again) videos of a guy getting high hitting a bong then shooting himself in the head ( but thats cool cause everyone laughed) so where do you draw the line. you say you are about legalizing it but very little talk is about that and most of the talk is on propagating and growing to include everything under the sun.. so remove all of the talk about everything else except promoting legalization this way you are truely sticking to your forum ... lets hear what others have to say

High PH4U.. everyone..

I (we, I think) come here to learn about Mj nuances and related activities..
In some of our states, these activities are not leagal... LEOs' life is ajoy with makeing those things we like to do, unavailable... GUNS (I'm an NRA member) and drugs (YES! they call it drugs.. no hair splitting allowed) together, really motivates them...

If you need to talk about guns, there are forums that do that.. go find them.. and get your gun fix there...

Draw the line>>: unlike government that gives in to every minority whim: >>where they want it to be..
not where someone else wants it to be.

Mr.Moonbiscuit · #30 (**permalink**) 08-03-2009, 05:02 PM

first purple i do want to thank your for you service to america, i plan on going in myself once other things in my life have settled, secondly my panda bear picture is an attempt at humor of something simply absurd, and it actually saved my life not to long ago. if it offends anyone let me know and i will change it out. as for your stance on the new rule, please understand that the talk of guns and ganja will get us SHUT DOWN and good people may go to jail. its for everyones saftey.

PFC Stone · #31 (**permalink**) 08-03-2009, 05:43 PM

Many fine points from many fine members! I love my GP family! I am a gun owner for hunting and personal protection. I also own a bow and do more bow hunting than anything else. I eat what I kill and I can only assume that it's as tasty as that well cared for personally grown bud. (I have yet to complete a grow) However, I concur with the premise for the dichotomy of the two very separate topics. I joined GP to learn about MMJ and NOT guns or gun freedoms. When I start my garden I shall remove any and all weapons from the premises as I certainly am NOT going to shoot another human being over my garden.

justplainbill · #32 (**permalink**) 08-03-2009, 05:43 PM

Wow this is gettin heavy!.
Relax, a couple of pics and the world is coming to an end. Grow up. We all know what the story is. Hey Purp, take it easy soldier. I have been where you have but 30 years earlier. When we got back from the war we were baby killers and criminals, not heralded as returning heroes. They will take our guns from our hands after prying our dead fingers from them
Let's all have a bong hit and take it easy. I would be glad to carry this on in the political forum or even the Veteran's forum.
I do not think the vets would mind a little discussion on firearm rights and the likes.

4maggio · #33 (**permalink**) 08-03-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC Stone

Many fine points from many fine members! I love my GP family! I am a gun owner for hunting and personal protection. I also own a bow and do more bow hunting than anything else. I eat what I kill and I can only assume that it's as tasty as that well cared for personally grown bud. (I have yet to complete a grow) However, I concur with the premise for the dichotomy of the two very separate topics. I joined GP to learn about MMJ and NOT guns or gun freedoms. When I start my garden I shall remove any and all weapons from the premises as I certainly am NOT going to shoot another human being over my garden.

In FLA, they (not LEO.. Home invasions) come in shooting... funny though.. in FL, it's OK if you shoot someone in your home that can/might/will do you harm... it's the law! but don't get caught growing, they will do everyting in their power to make the rest of your life miserable.

PFC Stone · #34 (**permalink**) 08-03-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 4maggio

In FLA, they (not LEO.. Home invasions) come in shooting... funny though.. in FL, it's OK if you shoot someone in your home that can/might/will do you harm... it's the law! but don't get caught growing, they will do everyting in their power to make the rest of your life miserable.

My statements are very blanket statements. I simply do not anticipate, I could be wrong, any home invasion with guns a blazing! Not from LEO or any other dirtbag trying to score. If that would happen prior to my garden, rest assured that I and the rest of my family are trained to protect one another. I know this because I have trained them to survive and shoot if necessary if it means harm to any of us. What I was trying to say is that once I start growing I simply do not want to compound my/any problems with LEO in the event that things were to go south. That is why absolutely nobody is being shown this future personal garden. By the way, I do support protection of one's family and house!

SLOWRIDER · #35 (**permalink**) 08-03-2009, 08:08 PM

This site to me is about helping people NOT about hurting any one. So if it not about that I do not think it has a place here!! I own several firearms and hunt and eat everything I hunt. So this is a good rule and stand behind it 100% !!

medicinecloset · #36 (**permalink**) 08-04-2009, 12:51 AM

Havent ever heard of "lurkers" I take it. Dont want any part of this forum. If this forum thread goes 48 hrs I will be very surprised not too mention very dissapointed. WTF does protecting your home with Guns have to do with MMJ? In this "Buisiness" you and your mouth are your own worst enemy. Yeah right we all would protect our Homes Families and Lives and would all(I hope) go to great lengths to protect them. Guess what truth is you could have a gazillion of whatever you want in your Home and now your on the net on this site talking about it. Who lurks?????? Who watches and logs IPs and Keystrokes/Activity???? Lets not complicate it any further with this kind of discussion. Lets stick to the point of Healing and the unmistakable friendship and Peace that MMJ provides us.
Take a breather here and practice Peace in your mind and within your Heart.
Med

Team42 · #37 (**permalink**) 08-04-2009, 09:02 AM

Just want to be clear, I am a criminology major; if you shoot someone breaking in, and the police find your garden(which they will), You are still going to jail for felony murder. If not for your felonious activity (growing) no one would have been killed; since they are there for your garden. Same thing if you run someone off the road during a high speed chase and they are killed. If death results from commission of a felony, you are responsible.

If no one knows about your garden, no one will try to steal from it!

Michael · #38 (**permalink**) 08-04-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Team42

Just want to be clear, I am a criminology major; if you shoot someone breaking in, and the police find your garden(which they will), You are still going to jail for felony murder. If not for your felonious activity (growing) no one would have been killed; since they are there for your garden. Same thing if you run someone off the road during a high speed chase and they are killed. If death results from commission of a felony, you are responsible.

If no one knows about your garden, no one will try to steal from it!

State laws vary. In Texas, you can always shoot someone coming to burgle your your home - regardless of their motives or what inspired the burglary. You can shoot anyone on your property after dark - not just in your house.

I won't tell you the slang term for these laws - let's just say it's a very racially charged figure of speech and leave it at that.