Cannabis Psychosis- COMPLETE BS, IMHO

the.fatman.cometh · 06-29-2008, 10:29 PM

Ok, I came across this on the web, and I'm not even sure this is a legit article, given the outlandish claims made.

Source

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CANNABIS PSYCHOSIS

Dr Brian Boettcher Consultant Psychiatrist Shelton Hospital, Shropshire’s Community & Mental Health Services NHS Trust, Bicton Heath, Shrewsbury, SY3 8DN

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Introduction

The drug induced psychosis seen when Cannabis is the main substance being abused is distinct phenomenologically from other psychosis.
It is unusual for such a psychosis to occur without other drugs being involved to some extent and so it is difficult to tease out the differences between the effects of Cannabis and other drugs.
However it is misleading and dangerous, to our youth in particular, to label Cannabis as “soft”. In fact the serious adverse effects of Cannabis have been known for some time now and Hall and Solowij in the British Journal of Psychiatry sounded warnings in 1997 about such issues as dependence on Cannabis, adolescent developmental problems, permanent cognitive impairment as well as involvement in and the development of psychosis.[1]
There are suggestions that in a small number of cases Cannabis is capable of precipitating psychosis, going on to the chronic picture described below, in people who have had no family and personal history of psychiatric illness.There have been suggestions that such people may be the ones who have started Cannabis in their teens and caused disturbance to neural connectivity. However, it seems Cannabis can precipitate or exacerbate a schizophrenic tendency in a characteristic manner.[2]
ACUTE SYMPTOMS OF CANNABIS PSYCHOSIS

International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10)

Often the combination of symptoms makes one suspicious that schizophrenia is present but at the same time there is an affective component. There may be the suspicion that the condition, either in part of whole, is feigned for reasons that are unclear because the pattern of symptoms do not fall easily into the usual criteria for psychosis. Drug taking is often denied, or the amount that is admitted by the patient is so little that one cannot say that this accounts for the current symptoms. Worse still, patients may not even consider Cannabis as an illicit or dangerous drug and so do not mention using it. Hallucinations are vague and delusions may be transitory with little in the way of thought disorder. There is often a lack of volition and a history of gradually deteriorating social ability and contact with others, including significant others. This history will often be verified by relatives and close friends who may be either completely ignorant of the drug taking, or confirm that there has been some in the past but believe that there has been little drug taking recently. There is often a depressive component with suicide attempts in the past but nothing recent or, if there is, then they are only ineffectual pleas for help. The person has usually lost his or her job some months or weeks before due to their poor performance at work. There is often very poor memory and concentration, which may be marked at the time of presentation. Paranoid delusions may be present and quite severe which can be the most alarming psychotic feature and result in hospital admission. If confronted with aggressive and authoritarian staff, who indicate verbally or non-verbally, that they do not believe the patient, the patient may become violent or simply leave against medical advice. There is a slow and gradual effect of cannabis and the symptoms continue to worsen for some time after the person stops using it. Thus by the time of presentation the person may be so disorganised and confused that they can’t even arrange their next “cone” or “joint”. Over the following few days the symptoms ease quickly. The improvement is easily credited to the neuroleptics and/or the antidepressants, which may in fact have contributed to the improvement. Symptoms such as the paranoia, hallucinations and depression fade until the patient is allowed to go on leave from the hospital and, a worsening of the symptoms may follow this. More often than not the nursing staff are the first to become suspicious that drugs have been taken when the patient is on leave from the hospital.
It could even be that the drug screen only indicated small dose drug taking or even absent. The International Classification of Disease indicates the following symptoms due to Cannabis.
“There must be dysfunctional behaviour, as evidenced by at least one at of the following:

(1) Apathy and sedation
(2) Disinhibition
(3) Psychomotor retardation
(4) Impaired attention
(5) Impaired judgement
(6) Interference with personal functioning.
C. At least one of the following signs must be present:
(1) Drowsiness
(2) Slurred speech
(3) Pupillary constriction (except in anoxia from severe overdose, when pupillary dilatation occurs)
(4) Decreased level of consciousness (e.g. Stupor, coma)
F12.0 Acute intoxication due to use of cannabinoids F12.0 DCR-10

A. The general criteria for acute intoxication (F1x.0) must be met.
B. There must be dysfunctional behaviour or perceptual disturbances including at least one at least one of the following:

(1) Euphoria and disinhibition
(2) Anxiety or agitation
(3) Suspiciousness or paranoid ideation
(4) Temporal slowing (a sense that time is passing very slowly, and/or the person is experiencing a rapid flow of ideas)
(5) Impaired judgement
(6) Impaired attention
(7) Impaired reaction time
(8) Auditory, visual or tactile illusions
(9) Hallucinations, with preserved orientation
(l0) depersonalization
(11) derealization
(12) Interference with personal functioning

increased appetite
dry mouth
conjunctival injection
tachycardia.”

[3] DSM IV also has similar but less complete information under the heading of Cannabis Induced Psychotic Disorder and refers the reader to a general description of “ Sunstance*Induced Psychotic Disorder”. That is the difference in the phenomenology of Cannabis Psychosis and other substance induced psychosis is not made, however this is now rather dated being 1994 when published.[4]
It can be seen from this that the range of symptoms is quite extensive and not confined to the core symptoms mentioned at the beginning.
CHRONIC SYMPTOMS OF CANNABIS PSYCHOSIS

Patients are left with the well-recognised and permanent symptoms of memory loss, apathy, loss of motivation and, paranoid ideation. These symptoms known as “ the Amotivational Syndrome” in the past are usually permanent.[5] If Cannabis using resumes then the acute symptoms redevelop. The chronic state can also be arrived at without a preceding psychotic episode. After Cannabis started to be widely used about 20 years ago, for permanent damage to occur it was felt by some that Cannabis had to be heavily used over at least three years [6]. However, there is accumulating evidence that smaller amount will do damage also and in animals “ deficits on tasks dependent on frontal lobe function have been reported in cannabis users” [7]. It is very difficult to conduct research in this area, as it is not acceptable to harm humans by doing trials with damaging substances such as Cannabis. However there is accumulating evidence of the psychological consequences of using Cannabis [8]. It is logical that to get the permanent “ Amotivational Syndrome” small amounts to damage have to accumulate incrementally. All this is in addition to the recognised danger of a recurrence of a pre-existing illness, such as Schizophrenia or Manic-depressive disorder. There are suggestions that Cannabis “ caused schizophrenia in young people and (or) enhanced the symptoms, especially in young people poorly able to cope with stress or in whom the antipsychotic therapy was unsuccessful”. [9] Caspari found “patients with previous cannabis abuse had significantly more rehospitalizations, tended to worse psychosocial functioning, and scored significantly higher on the psychopathological syndromes "thought disturbance" (BPRS) and "hostility" (AMDP). These results confirm the major impact of cannabis abuse on the long-term outcome of schizophrenic patients”.[10]P

References

[1] Hall W, Solowij N, “ Long-term Cannabis use and Mental Health “ 1997 British Journal of Psychiatry, August, 171:107-8
[2] Hall A, Degenhardt, “Cannabis and Psychosis” Australian National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre, Presented at The Inaugural International Cannabis and Psychosis Conference 1999 , Melbourne 16-17 February 1999
[3] World Health Organisation, Geneva, (1992) “ The ICD-10 Classification of Mental and Behavioural Disorders”
[4] Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders , Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association,1994
[5] Schwartz RH “Marijuana: an overview”. Pediatr Clin North Am 1987 Apr;34(2):305-17 .
[6] Boettcher B, Medical Journal of Australia 11/25 December 1982 “Marijuana and Apathy”
[7] Jentsch J D, Verrico C D, Le D, Roth RH, “ Repeated exposure to dleta9-tetragydrocannabinol reduces prefrontal cortal dopamine metabolism in the rat “ ,Neurosci Lett (1998) May 1;246(3):169-72
[8] Hall W, Solowji N, Lemon J, The health and psychological consequences of Cannabis use. National Drug Strategy Monograph Series no 25. Canberra: Australia Government Publishing Service, 1994
[9] van Amsterdam JG, van der Laan JW, Slangen JL, “Cognitive and psychotic effects after cessation of chronic cannabis use “ Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd 1998 Mar 7;142(10):504-8
[10] Caspari D, “Cannabis and Schizophrenia: Results of a follow-up Study” Eur Arch Psychiatry Clin Neurosci 1999;249(1):45-9

Pappy · 06-30-2008, 08:56 AM

The lengths they will go to BS the public.

Pappy

tokecrazy · 06-30-2008, 09:56 AM

First things first.They outlawed any studys and experiments of marijuana along time ago.Now this fool is useing what studys they did do back in 1987 to say he is right.BULLS--t.He's got tobe a McCain supporter.The both of them are full of it.The fool needs to read the lates studys on what it dose to stop cancer cells from growing.It makes me so hot under the collar that fools are saying what they think is right and no case studys to back up what they are saying.I would like for those that are saying all this bad to come down with a illness that pot is the only cure. Then we will see how fast it is looked at as a medicine and a cure.Peace

whitetrash6 · 06-30-2008, 10:49 AM

i couldnt even read that without turning red. i guess if i was smart like him and used all them fancy ass words he took a month looking up in the dictionary to write a artical on how weed is in fact good for you and makes you get supernatural powers from the cannabis gods spineless dumbass's like him would smoke dope allll daaayyy looonnngggg... CUZ I AM TOKEN TILL I START CHOKEN

scott06 · 06-30-2008, 02:03 PM

I haven't looked at the research for sometime now, but I believe there is some reliable evidence, though not entirely conclusive, that show that MJ use may increase the chances of a psychotic episode for those already prone to psychosis and/or having had previous psychotic episodes...These leads me to a point that I seem to keep making in multiple post...while MJ has many positive recreational and medical applications...it is a powerful complex of drugs that interact with the body in many ways, most of which are still poorly understood...like anything with that kind of impact on our bodies/minds/spirits it is wise to explore what responsable safe use is for each individual...comments that might lead one to infer it is "natural" and therefore totally safe under all circumstances are misleading...I don't think the previous posts imply that but I worry that some MJ enthusiasts (especially younger or those dealing with mental health issues) could get the wrong idea about just how little we still know about MJ and how it works...it is powerful and therefore capable of harm as well as healing...it all depends on the individual and the application...Smoke wisely including time, place, amount, and frequency and I am sure you will enjoy it more or find it more effective as medicine...Wishing everyone happy (and wise) smoking/vaping/eating etc....

green_nobody · 06-30-2008, 04:23 PM

okay, the danish army did a reasurch in the late 80's, 1988 or 89 if i recall it correctly. the method was to piss test drafties for MJ and at the same time to ask them if the had ever expericansed any psychosis - they didn't ask if this medical stated been appearing under the influence of THC or not, nor been they asking if the drafties been using it to cure their psychosis. Now, this ill study is the back bone of most of todays claims in that direction as they had more then 230,000 participants but as it was methodically setup in such a poor way that it only could produce false results and it is just a great example for tax money well wasted to lie to the tax payer - besides that it been a huge blow the danish army in that year as they lost recruits by the hundredth.

in general, if you can tread and sometimes even cure mental healt problems and addictions wit MJ why in h*** should it trigger just the same?! it is just BS on a higher level but still bull.

scott06 · 06-30-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by green_nobody

in general, if you can tread and sometimes even cure mental healt problems and addictions wit MJ why in h*** should it trigger just the same?! it is just BS on a higher level but still bull.

I am loath to encage in what might seem like a disagrement with Green...but I think the last part of that quote might be misleading (at least the way I read it)

I can think of any number of drug interactions that may have opposite/different effects on different people...or even the same person given dose/age/health etc...

Ritalin is one example it seems to have sedative effect on young people but a stimulant effect on adults (it was orignally developed as a stimulant)

Think of MJ itself...people report couch-lock, a social high, paranoia, euphoria, creativity, etc....

As far a psychosis...those prone to psychosis are prone for a wide variety of reasons, not just one...so it follows that MJ or some other drug may make psychotic events more likely for one person and less for another

Personally I can see how heavy MJ use could under the right circumstances with the right person could make it more likely to have an uncomfortable drift into a separate self-made reality

Again this is not an argument with GN or against MJ (obviously I think it can be wonderful)....just a call to rememberthat MJ like any psychoactive substance is powerful stuff that can be abused or misused...and those dealing with mental health issues (like myself at times) should be aware it can possibly have both negative and positive effects and so those effects should be carefully monitored

OK I am getting off the soapbox now and promise not to bring it up again for at least a month

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Cannabis Psychosis- COMPLETE BS, IMHO

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