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Richard Owl Mirror · #1 (**permalink**) 06-06-2009, 11:48 AM

I have been a member @ Seedbay Cannabis Seed Auctions for over two years.
I love looking at the various strains made available but, I've never participated in their auctions. I found it by following a link about that strain called Ducksfoot. BTW, they are offering some today if anyone is interested.
Anyways, I don't know anything about satisfied customers from this website or the other websites connected with Gypsy Nirvana i.e. Gypsy Nirvana's Seed Boutique .

The other night I decided to take a chance and placed a low bid on some seeds. With less than 12 hours until the end of the auction, they were offering a package of 15 seeds for $10. I input a max bid of $15.01 figuring that a dollar per seed isn't a bad investment. I WON !

The listing didn't provide ANY information regarding the strain, not even if it was Sativa or Indica but, I figured I couldn't go wrong for $15
The name of this strain is NEPALI, has anyone heard of it?
I looked on Gypsy Nirvana's Seed Boutique and couldn't find it offered for sale but, I did find a few others that were strains from NEPAL.

ACE-Nepalese Jam ₤34.00
DRA-Nepal Baba ₤38.00
FLYF5-Nepal Kush ₤57.00
MOCF5-Nepalese Dragon ₤26.80

I'm thinking that perhaps what I bid on might be a combination of these strains all mixed together.
I know it's a big chance and I really had not planned on making this purchase but, I'm going to follow through and see what I get for my $15

Tell me any experiences you've had with this breeder and/or the seed bank auction house @ Seedbay Cannabis Seed Auctions

Richard Owl Mirror · #2 (**permalink**) 06-06-2009, 01:59 PM

Hm, I found an entry mentioning this strain.

Nepali (BlueHemp) Landraces; Nepal, Baglung

Apparently it is from this seed bank @ BlueHemp

BlueHemp ~ Nepali

Lineage: pure Landrace from Baglung/Nepal

Type: Sativa

Taste: fruity bubble gum

Effect: euphoric high with a bodystone

Flowering: outdoor begin october, indoor not yet tested

http://en.seedfinder.eu/seeds_from_B...itzerland.html

http://en.seedfinder.eu/BlueHemp_Swi..._-_Nepali.html

ileso · #3 (**permalink**) 06-06-2009, 11:54 PM

mate for $15, see what you get.
i noticed they say it begins flowering in october but they dont say when it finishes.
good luck with it.

if the seeds are really what they say you wont find any info on them. theres no info on landraces from around the world. which may be a good thing in a way.

good luck
ileso

Greenlife · #4 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 12:04 AM

dont go through gypsy/nirvana i've read alot of mixed reviews, if you really go through their website and check out all the pics of plants you'll notice that they used the same pic for a couple different strains...

Richard Owl Mirror · #5 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ileso

mate for $15, see what you get.
i noticed they say it begins flowering in october but they dont say when it finishes.
good luck with it.

if the seeds are really what they say you wont find any info on them. there's no info on landraces from around the world. which may be a good thing in a way.

good luck
ileso

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theres no info on landraces from around the world.

My thought is, if I'm going to eventually do any breeding in the future, I would think going back to the basics would be the most beneficial.
In my mind, everything is mixed to the point people are now breeding a triple-crossed strain with a quadruple-crossed strain and giving it a fanciful name.
I would rather take a few landraces and cross them. That in my mind would create a unique cross.
Like I said, I hadn't planned this but, when I saw the opportunity, I couldn't pass it up.
I'm sure it will take a long time before anything productive comes out of these seeds, if anything. The only thing I worry about is hermaphrodite's from landrace strains.
Have you ever heard of this BLUEHEMP seed bank ?
Their website is pretty impressive and I'm thinking it's possible this Gypsy got hold of these seeds from this company but, didn't have enough costumers so he threw them up on this auction. If that is the case, they might be an awesome strain but, people want those killer crosses made so famous at the Cannabis Cup, etc.

This could be one of those once in a lifetime flukes that I just happen to be in the right place at the right time. At least I am hoping so.

I've read a little bit of history and it seems this particular location is rumored to be the cradle of the expansion of Marijuana around the world.

5 Countries Where Marijuana is Legal (Almost!)
Nepal

Unlike the other countries on this list, Nepal doesn't have an actual decriminalisation policy towards marijuana - it's rather that the laws they have are hardly ever enforced! Marijuana used to be legal in Nepal, making it a hippy Mecca in the 1960's and early 70's. It has been illegal since 1973 - not that you'd notice. Marijuana is widely available and used, especially by Nepalese holy men. Note that smuggling and growing are punished, but possession and personal use rarely are - if the police catch you smoking they will stop you, but only to collect a small bribe!

Something tells me that Holy Men wouldn't be polluting their bodies with shwag ;>}

THE MARIJUANA GROWER'S GUIDE
by Mel Frank and Ed Rosenthal

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Type IV plants represent some of the world's more exotic marijuana varieties. Some varieties are shorter, about four to eight feet at maturity, and very bushy with a luxuriant covering of leaves. These usually originate from Nepal, northern India, and other parts of Central Asia as well as North Africa.

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People and Customs of Nepal: Nepalmountainnews.com

There was, however, a tide of Western popular culture and commercialization sweeping over Nepal. In the 1960s and 1970s, many Westerners, so-called hippies, were attracted to Nepal, looking for inexpensive marijuana and hashish. Nepal suddenly emerged as a "hippie Shangri-la." There were no laws or legal restrictions on the sale and purchase of such drugs, and they could be used openly. In fact, some Westerners thought the Nepalese were generally happy and content because they were always high. Although this view was a distortion, nonetheless it was very common to see elderly Nepalese men smoking marijuana, invariably mixed with tobacco, in public. Marijuana plants grew almost everywhere; sometimes they were found growing even along main streets. Locally produced hashish also was widely consumed, particularly during festivals celebrated by some ethnic groups and tribes. It was, however, very unusual for a Nepalese to develop a marijuana or hashish habit until reaching about forty years of age.
By the late 1980s, the situation had changed dramatically. There was an emerging drug subculture in the urban areas, and a number of youths, including college and high school students, sold and consumed drugs. Many of these youths had gone beyond using marijuana and hashish to more potent drugs, such as "crack" and cocaine--drugs unheard of in the past. In the 1960s, Westerners had sought release from the overbearing materialism of developed countries; they copied the Nepalese (and other Easterners) who smoked marijuana and hashish. Ironically, in the 1980s and 1990s, it was Nepalese youths who were enchanted by the North American material and drug culture. There were an estimated 20,000 heroin addicts in 1989. In response to the drug situation in the country, in the late 1980s the government initiated antinarcotics measures and narcotics training, and King Birendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev directed extensive media attention to narcotics abuse. The effectiveness of the battle against narcotics, however, was limited by the lack of an official government body to target drug abuse.

Now that's what I call going back to the basics, "hippie Shangri-la."
Might just have to have a name linking back to these days!

Richard Owl Mirror · #6 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenlife

dont go through gypsy/nirvana i've read alot of mixed reviews, if you really go through their website and check out all the pics of plants you'll notice that they used the same pic for a couple different strains...

I answered this way in the long comment above.

Quote:

Have you ever heard of this BLUEHEMP seed bank ?
BlueHemp
Their website is pretty impressive and I'm thinking it's possible this Gypsy got hold of these seeds from this company but, didn't have enough costumers so he threw them up on this auction.

ileso · #7 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:43 AM

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My thought is, if I'm going to eventually do any breeding in the future, I would think going back to the basics would be the most beneficial.
In my mind, everything is mixed to the point people are now breeding a triple-crossed strain with a quadruple-crossed strain and giving it a fanciful name.
I would rather take a few landraces and cross them. That in my mind would create a unique cross.
Like I said, I hadn't planned this but, when I saw the opportunity, I couldn't pass it up.
I'm sure it will take a long time before anything productive comes out of these seeds, if anything. The only thing I worry about is hermaphrodite's from landrace strains.

This could be one of those once in a lifetime flukes that I just happen to be in the right place at the right time. At least I am hoping so.

yeh, there is method to your madness...

not pasing up an oportunity is what its all about. and if you do what you plan to. start from scratch then i salute you. welcome to the club. im also fed up of tripple / quadruple crosses of comercial weed with stupid names and pornographic descriptions. there are some wonderful crosses out there.
but the personal gratification you get from having your 'own' personal strain and cross is unequaled

hermapheraditism could be a problem, but we begin by hoping it wont. if it is we deal with it then.

welcome to the 'inner sanctum' of real breeding. its a whole new level when you embark on this path. you are after something new, new flavours, new genetics. the waters are unchartered and theres very little info to fall back on except the basic rules. and to be truthfull thats really all you need anyway. you get very little help from outside sourses, so its all you. you learn from your mistakes as its all trial and error.

all i can say is good luck. you obviously know how to grow. now you get to play god.

peace,
ileso

Richard Owl Mirror · #8 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 01:05 PM

I went looking for any further information on marijuana originating fro Nepal.
I found this bit of info and, thought I would share it.

The Original Haze ~ Special breeding stock. The only original pure haze available.

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This homogenous Sativa type weed originates from Nepal and contains a high level of THC.

http://www.puresativa.com/

I wonder if using The Original Haze to stablize this Nepali might not be the way to go?
Perhaps stage one should be a cross between these Nepali seeds and some Original Haze. Then from that point out-cross for other traits between other Sativa strains.
Oh this is going to be quite the journey ;>}

Ut oh, what is this?

Quote:

Sacred Seeds bred original Haze in the late 1970s from a combination of several sativas, including a Mexican/Columbian, some Thai and South Indians.
http://www.pickandmixseeds.co.uk/pro...-original-haze

Hm? now who do I believe?

ileso · #9 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:19 PM

first try them out. see how they grow, smoke etc. then you can think about what youd cross with... and have grown and smoked that as well before you use it

Richard Owl Mirror · #10 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ileso

first try them out. see how they grow, smoke etc. then you can think about what youd cross with... and have grown and smoked that as well before you use it

Oh yeah, I realize it's a loooooong way off before I could do anything.
I'm just thinking outloud and dreaming of future daze :.}

ileso · #11 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:37 PM

hehehehe
but still, first you get to smoke napali weed. now how often do you do that?

Richard Owl Mirror · #12 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ileso

hehehehe
but still, first you get to smoke napali weed. now how often do you do that?

LOL so far only in my dreams ;>}
I came across this website, ever hear of it?
PureSativa.com :: Sativa Bags Cannabis Seeds female seeds Hemp Bags SativaBags Head Shop Smoking Accessories

Deb-HAS-grn · #13 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:49 PM

I'd say you got a good deal Richard,,it will be interesting watching you make your own strain. I think I'll check out this auction thing,,,,

bikesair · #14 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 02:56 PM

My only 2 cents Richard are that sativas are typically more finicky then an indica. Although the original haze is preferred breeding material by the popular breeders it introduces lengthy flowering times and picky nutrient requirements. Maybe consider a Hash Plant or Kush for a cross : ) Never underestimate a good indica. Also I am in no way a 'Newbie'.

Richard Owl Mirror · #15 (**permalink**) 06-07-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bikesair

My only 2 cents Richard are that sativas are typically more finicky then an indica. Although the original haze is preferred breeding material by the popular breeders it introduces lengthy flowering times and picky nutrient requirements. Maybe consider a Hash Plant or Kush for a cross : ) Never underestimate a good indica. Also I am in no way a 'Newbie'.

Oh I understand the flowering lengths and am willing to wait.
In my grow room I'll be growing Indica-dominant strains for my personal use and just reserving some space in the room to experiment with these Sativa's.
My flower room is big enough to support two separate areas.
I have two 400 watt HPS lights and if they are kept on the same schedule, I believe I can harvest from the one side while allowing the other side to finish a month or two later.
I'm only growing for myself and that allows me more freedom to experiment.
If I had others depending on me that would be a different matter altogether.

Richard Owl Mirror · #16 (**permalink**) 06-17-2009, 06:57 PM

I received my seeds today ! ~ http://www.bluehemp.ch/4803/105273.html
Very fast delivery and excellent packaging.
He also included 5 Mazar-I-Sharif seeds free !

Quote:

Mazar-i-Sharif
Genetics: Traditional North Afghan charas cultivar
Type: Traditional landrace/pure-bred
Variety: Indica Giant
Height: 3-4 meters in natural outdoor environment in Mazar-i-Sharif.
Yield: 1.5 to 2 kg of dried flowers in natural outdoor environment
Aroma: pungent, intense terpene aroma, classic Afghan, with some sweetness
Harvest: early December to early January
Characteristics: Unusually large indica strain with classic wide leaved characteristics

I must say, 20 seeds for $15 plus $5 for postage is not a bad deal.
I highly recommend looking in to this auction site, never know what kind of deal you might find.

justanotherbozo · #17 (**permalink**) 06-17-2009, 08:32 PM

high bro, just thought i'd let you know that, although i've not bought any
seeds at the bay, i know several people who have and all were very happy!

Gypsy is a greedy so and so and he is only in it for the money but he is smart
enough to know that the only way his businesses will flourish is to send out
what he promises.

also, while many of the strains he markets as his own are rip offs of other peoples
work, like his Papaya is a rip off of Mango, they are still very good, plus, he does
allow many other breeders, and some are true breeders and not just seed makers,
to sell their wares at the bay.

anyway, good luck with your $15.00 Nepali, i hope it turns out to be killer!

Richard Owl Mirror · #18 (**permalink**) 06-17-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justanotherbozo

high bro, just thought i'd let you know that, although i've not bought any
seeds at the bay, i know several people who have and all were very happy!

Gypsy is a greedy so and so and he is only in it for the money but he is smart
enough to know that the only way his businesses will flourish is to send out
what he promises.

also, while many of the strains he markets as his own are rip offs of other peoples
work, like his Papaya is a rip off of Mango, they are still very good, plus, he does
allow many other breeders, and some are true breeders and not just seed makers,
to sell their wares at the bay.

anyway, good luck with your $15.00 Nepali, i hope it turns out to be killer!

Maybe you can help me out? On the package of the Nepali seeds, it reads:
4:20 Auction ~ Oldpink Clearence - lots: Nepali

I know the 4:20 auction indicates the Server fund which these were offered under.
Do you know a Breeder named Oldpink ?
The word clearence, indicates to me either they were not good sellers and/or they may be older seeds. Hopefully not too old.

I found a conversation by someone with that name @ Amsterdam Jan 4 - 12 [Archive] - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

This website: International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - powered by weed is who the server fund was on behalf of. This individual is a member/breeder who is active on their forums.

justanotherbozo · #19 (**permalink**) 06-18-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Owl Mirror

Maybe you can help me out? On the package of the Nepali seeds, it reads:
4:20 Auction ~ Oldpink Clearence - lots: Nepali

I know the 4:20 auction indicates the Server fund which these were offered under.
Do you know a Breeder named Oldpink ?
The word clearence, indicates to me either they were not good sellers and/or they may be older seeds. Hopefully not too old.

I found a conversation by someone with that name @ Amsterdam Jan 4 - 12 [Archive] - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

This website: International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - powered by weed is who the server fund was on behalf of. This individual is a member/breeder who is active on their forums.

mornin' bro, still wakin' up so bear with me.

first, i don't really have any direct knowledge of the bay except that i know
people who swear by it.

also, at $15.00, even if you only get one interesting female, you stole her for
that kind of money, lol.

and oldpink is a respected user over at ICMag, here's a link to his (or her?) threads over
there, maybe, if you search through them, you'll find info on these seeds.

International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

keep in mind also that, if they thought the seeds were bad, they'd most likely
be given as freebie packs.

Richard Owl Mirror · #20 (**permalink**) 06-19-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by justanotherbozo

mornin' bro, still wakin' up so bear with me. first, i don't really have any direct knowledge of the bay except that i know people who swear by it. also, at $15.00, even if you only get one interesting female, you stole her for that kind of money, lol.
and oldpink is a respected user over at ICMag, here's a link to his (or her?) threads over there, maybe, if you search through them, you'll find info on these seeds.
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums
keep in mind also that, if they thought the seeds were bad, they'd most likely be given as freebie packs.

I made contact with Gypsy and this is his response.

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Originally Posted by Gypsy Nirvana

I came by the Nepali a couple of years ago from the breeder Ingmar in Holland.....I have not grown it out myself so am not exactly sure what to expect ....Ingmar told me that the seeds would produce some great plants, so we are waiting to see how various growers fare with this variety......

Apparently this Ingmar is associated with Dutch-Passion seeds.
I wonder why they never used them for their own growing ventures?
Perhaps they grow too large for the average closet grower?