Thank you hatch always nice to see someone that knows my work.

I can think of two better places to get my gear but thats another thread another day
The Farm rarely has more than a few of my strains and is only a partial distributor for us fyi

Sub

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Hello, I would be very interested if you could discuss the problems and benefits of breeding marijuana.
My first question is, is it better to begin with collected seeds of landrace strains when beginning a breeding program or to begin with proven cross-strains ?
Second question is, when breeding, is the ease of growing in a closet, in as little time the most concern or the best, effective strains regardless of flower times and/or environmental conditions?

I guess in summing up my questions I'll ask, do you feel the current seed banks are only concentrating on cashing in on the marketing of new-named seeds for profit or are they actually concerned with creating hybrids which offer the best blend of characteristics?

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[quote=Richard Owl Mirror;123196]Hello, I would be very interested if you could discuss the problems and benefits of breeding marijuana.
My first question is, is it better to begin with collected seeds of landrace strains when beginning a breeding program or to begin with proven cross-strains ? Would you drive a model A ford or a new car with all the benifits of advanced knowledge?
Second question is, when breeding, is the ease of growing in a closet, in as little time the most concern or the best, effective strains regardless of flower times and/or environmental conditions?

Not for myself my goal is simple to put into seed form as close as possible my favorite clones cuts or lines of cannabis. Many breeders are now focusing on the quick sale of feminized seeds but its a marketing ploy IMO if you leave out the male your leaving out a very important componat me and Shanti agree on this. I parted with Treating Yourself over this as I feel fem seeds rip of the medical grower.
I do not let the public want drive me but work to save many strains or even improve them.

I guess in summing up my questions I'll ask, do you feel the current seed banks are only concentrating on cashing in on the marketing of new-named seeds for profit or are they actually concerned with creating hybrids which offer the best blend of characteristics?
I think 98% of all seed makers are driven by profits but there are a few that simply want to known as a positive influence on breeding over all.

I wanted a line of Cannabis seeds that actually performed as there descriptions say and to offer a wide range of flavors focusing on the following
Grape
Cherry
Orange
Lemon
Mango
Peaches
Watermellon
Berry
Lavender

Our newest work is developing a strain that resist mildew as it has become such a problem and I am happy to say Chernobyl is extremely resistant to mildew and taste like Limes another fruit flavor.

Hm? So if someone invented a robot that could perform every Karma Sutra sexual position to perfection, you would give up making love to a woman for "all the benefits of advanced knowledge" ?

How would you feel about this technique if it worked to perfection?

I'm uncertain how flavoring marijuana [which is not natural] is even remotely close to "a positive influence on breeding over all."
Seems more like parlor tricks in gaining an upper-hand over the competition.
I'm also curious as to how you can claim "I do not let the public want drive me" yet, are attempting to breed for flavored budsicles ? Isn't that catering to public demand ?

Obviously you have a long history and experience in this field yet, everything you've presented here reeks of Salesmanship for your line of products and leaves little in the way for true biological propagation of a unique plant that is far older than the human race.
Answer me this, how will flavored marijuana assist Medicinal marijuana patients?
Do these flavors add to the THC, CBD content of the final product?

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I don't know or speak for Sub...but I think he's speaking towards keying in on specific plants with natural terpenes (flavors) that are similar to the fruits he listed.... such as the fabled "Blueberry" or "Cherry Slyder"....both of which have a hint of the taste of the fruit in their name that comes from the genetics within the plant..not external or artifical "flavorings". (a whole 'nother topic/argument/opinion)

it's all good...especially when you share the final product with a fellow patient...

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LOL well I need Pain relief, not a fruit salad ;>}

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I'm right there with ya....

I want the SKUNK ***fruit***...with a HAMMER....LOL.

No But Ed has spent the last 10 years studing terpines I am not the only one that finds this intersting.
God flavored the Cannabis cuzz not me Its about selecting varieties that I love the taste of.
I have never had a potency concern but much commercial genetics taste terrible. I breed for my taste and what I like to smoke I did this for many many many years before I ever gave a seed away and long before any were sold.
Its obvious your trying to get a rise out of me unless your prepared to give something I have created a try then I cant began to explain what I do

Do you have a strain that you created on the cover of Big Book?

How about 4 Top ten awards?
We were just inducted into the Hightimes Seed Bank Hall of Fame maybe I actually know something you could learn.

Sub

well yer sure dazzling the crowd now, Sub...

[QUOTE] Count Me Down As A Big Yes, Can This New Robot Help Cook & Clean????


Hey My Brother, He Doesn't Have To Be A Salesman, His Work Speak's For It's Self, & Luckly It Is Available To The Public...He Was Invited To Show & Bring His 20+++ Years Of Work & Knowledge With Us, So Please Treat Him With Respect, I'm Sure He Will Gladly Answer Any Question In Text That You May Have, But This Is A Wonderful Opportunity To Learn.

The Flavor Is Still Natural In A Fruity Way.
It Doesn't Take Anything Away From It.

Word!!!

I Mix All My Strains Up & Call Them Hatch Salad, EveryOne Loves It!!!LOL!!& The Pain Relief Is Creeped All Over It!!!HEHEHE

Very Well Spoken, & What A Accomplishment & I'm Sure Many More Title's Will Come Your Way In The Near Future!!!!!

I Heard That, I'm Like A Little Kid In A Chocolate Factory!!!

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Hello Subcool, not trying to get a rise out of you.
I suppose I should refrain from saying any more.

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Richard Owl Mirror,

Thank You..

Thanks Subcool for going into detail about your current strains. Like I said in my PM, I plan to try at least 2 of your strains. This site really appreciates you taking the time to pass on some of your knowledge. Your track record speaks for itself. I'm still trying to grow a fruit salad. Never been one for straight vanilla...I'm a tutti fruitti kinda gal!

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this may just get a rise out of some, but as i recall the violent opposition is now gone so ill ask, sub what is your view on autoflowers?

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Yeah, meant no harm.

Subcool im very excited that you have reached this site and we can see all your wonderful work. I have read many articles in my day and it is an honor to have your input here.

As for the flavors, my favorites that I've tried were called "JuicyFruit" - which tasted something like a pink (Watermelon) JollyRancher when I got it. Also "StrawberryCough" is delicious. Not sure if it really tastes like strawberries, but def fruity. I used to keep a collection of 10-20 jars of different strains that I collected over the whole year, then I would smoke them on 4/20. Most interesting was one named "Canadian Crystal" which tasted/smelled like a bouquet of flowers....and put me on my butt in 1 hit (which is rare for the amount i smoke).

Again, glad to have ya. :-)

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"Remember, you can never overdose - you can only under-dose. We are just making sure we aren't under-dosing."

I am a medical marijuana patient - my plants and use are covered under State Law. I do not endorse illegal activities in or out of the state/country. So don't tread on me.

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I am very interested in getting some Jillybean, but am not clear on what to expect from it. I need pain relief and don't want to get knocked on my butt like pure indica's do. I need something fairly easy to grow that will ease anxiety. Oh, yeah, I am looking for something that tastes and smells orange.

Is Jillybean right for me?

Hey Subcool, don't know if its already been mentioned but was wondering which of your strains would be the best for producing the "Rick Simpson" type of cannabis oil? I suppose I'm asking which strain produces the best, with the most potent resins?
Any other considerations or insights you have on medical cannabis oil production?
peace, potpots

Wayfarin Id say Jillybean is right up your alley not to strong nice happy buzz and incredible orange taste

Potpots Ricks Oil is always interpreted wrong IMO people looking for high THC strains your looking for high CBD strains and in our like thats going to be Querkle.
Thats what I made our with