hey guys, got a big question here for all of you. i am about to grow for the first time in the next little while and i need help with finding a strain. i have a 7x7 grow area in the basement, will be using fluorescent for the entire grow, will only be growing 5 plants. i have been combing the internet for a while trying to find a perfect strain for me, and it has led me to you. what im looking for in a plant (in order of importance) is:

1) Low odour (i dont want any smells to be detectable outside the grow room)
2) high yield
3) fast flowering time
4) idiot proof (i have never grown anything, especially not weed, if they are to survive they will have to indure my inexperience)
5) low height (i have a feeling that a smaller plant is easier to take care of)

potency of the crop just goes without saying..
basically i want this to be a nice little stealth grow. any suggestions guys?
ANY input is greatly appreciated here, thank you in advance.

I'm starting off too and I was advised to get the strain Pipi, don't know about the smell like but I think it's a good one.

Hi. Same as all of you. Just starting out with 1st.

I lovw the concept of autoflowers, like Lowryders. At least to me, it seems like an easier alternative, though there are people that don't like them, period. My reasons are the following:

1- Absolute no experience in this. The autoflowering trait got me hooked, since it is less complex to time in lightcycles. Just 20 hours of light per day from seed to harvest.

2- In my case, I got a Lowryder cross with snowwhite, since I had always wanted to get my hands on a nice Indica..

3- Very small size, which is a huge factor in the small room I have

4- Short seed to Toke time!!

Just my 2 cents...

Nothern Lights. Absolutely. Specifically I like NL#5. Stays short, low odor, fast flowering, very resilient (mold resistant, not nutrient-sensitive), and a deliciously potent heavy indica high. Honestly this is one of my favorite strains since I grew up around it in the Northeast. It will yield a HELL of alot more than the lollipops that are autoflower strains.

If you are really into the autoflower (which I am not....especially with lower potency), I do know that Autoflower/AK-47 is an excellent cross and is decently potent and stable.

There are a whole lot of Nothern Lights crosses, some of which have a low odor - usually the ones that have a fruit name. Look around see what you can find. Stay away from anything that says skunk, afghan, or kush if you are trying to keep the odor down. Also typically for low height and shorter flowering you want to look to indicas. sativas are generally from tropical areas and stretch more and are used to long summers, thus the sativa strains generally have a long flowering period. ex: some Haze plants (specifically Super Silver Haze and Neville's Haze), have flowering times of 12+ weeks.

good luck!

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Good info D... good to know, thinking of trying a non auto for the next

thanks for the input. i wasnt really considering autogrows anyways, im just going to install a light timer in the grow room, it doesnt seem too complicated.

i looked into northern lights #5 on highgrade-seeds.com
it looks quite promising, its just what im looking for, but i am a little suprised that they would call it a high yield strain when it is only advertised at a 3oz producer. is it just me being a noobie or is that a good yield? i mean...im probably gonna have to have 6 plants just for 1 pound..seems quite low

also i decided to go with HPS instead of flourescents. what power bulb would i need for 6 plants?

thanks again

NL is a pretty good yield. i dunno why HG Seeds always puts those low yields (notice: all the seeds say somewhere between 2.0-3.5 oz each). People have obviously yielded ALOT more per plant on alot of those strains on that site. I wouldn't really trust what they say for yield....it all depends on your lights and how your grow. Also other sites put Northern Lights at yielding 400-500 grams per plant (Nirvana Shop). Now this is probably way to high, and most growers would never reach that. But you get my point that the real yield is subjective.

For 6 plants i would suggest at minimum a 400w HID. the higher you go, the more you can yield. generally people try to get 1 gram per watt (this is not easy....i have yet to get above .6-.7 gram per watt myself). so off a 400 watt in theory you can get 400 grams, which is about 14 ounces. but this is doubtful. also depends on your space, grow type, and nutrients. likewise, with a 1000w (which has better light penetration and is the strongest), you possibly could work 1000grams. Again, more likely you would get half of that, especially on your first grow......but you get the trend.

i strongly suggest you get HID over flourescent. make sure you can adequately vent the heat from those lights. also, since you are setting up in the basement, DO NOT put the plant pots directly on (im assuming) the concrete ground! this will be too cold and it will hurt your plants. put a box/wooden plank/whatever in between to buffer your cold.

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Why are you against auto grows? I'm looking forward to multiple harvest next year outside thanks to autos. then one humongous harvest around Halloween!!! It'll be a good summer indeed

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Stick with NL or a skunk variety. They are more forgiving with rookie mistakes. You have to control odor with each, but it is foolish not to control odor anyway.

Yes... odor is right up with "don't tell anyone" if somebody walking down the street can smell it, then you won't have it for long.

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Autos work well in some situations. If one needs to flower within a certain time, or wants to have multiple harvests per summer season. they are also good indoors where the height requirement is very short.

However, it is going to be a given that they are less potent. I've tried the Lowryder (#1), and a Auto/Ak-47 mix, and a Auto/Diesel mix. Lowryder #1 was not potent at all, Auto/Diesel was a medium-ish potency, and Auto/AK-47 was a medium potency (more towards the high potency spectrum).

I personally feel that if you have the time, space, and ability.....the original strain is the way to go. I believe ruderalis not only effects the potency, but also gives the plant a swag-like taste (you know, the cheap mexican brick weed kind of taste). Just my opinion though.

Skunk is not going to be easy to control the smell however lol......the name fits it.

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Current Fall '09 'Red Diesel' LED Grow http://www.greenpassion.org/showthread.php?t=14415

thanks so much for everyone's input, it is truly helpful. just one last strain question i have:
a friend of mine says he can get me a bunch of cinderella99 clones. i have never seen this strain, ive googled it but there isnt much information that sounds reliable out there. anyone here has experience with it? would it be a good choice for my needs? also how much time am i saving by starting off with clones instead of seeds, is it worth it? ive heard that clones retain any problems the mother plant might have had.

I have been wondering this also. I started with bagseed and I think I'm ready to upgrade. My bagseed appears to have been sativa, stretch is phenominal BUT I have been able to keep them just short enough so far. It's the only "good" plant out of all of them I liked so far. I only grow with CFL's tho which I think is helping to keep them "tame" I also only keep them in 16oz beer cups which helps too. The flower time so far is crazy long lol But I think I have done the best with what I have so far. Anyone know of a good strain for my kind of micro grow?

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northern lights dude...

http://www.sensiseeds.com/northernlights/1p235.htm

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I just got 11 NL#5's and am germing them. Should be interesting to see how well they do in my lil setup lol Thanks again GP for the super uber cool prize!!!!

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