hey everyone,
i am just curious as to what is the largest producing plant of decent-great bud that a indoor grower could choose.. im looking to inprove my selection and qtys so any info on great indoor starins would b good... im only really looking for plants that will make atleast 3oz ea maybe 2 if the quality is superb

Killing Fields F2

Mostly sativa dominant
Flowering Time 11-12 weeks
indoor plant
Harvest Up to 700 gram/m2(indoor)
Taste Very fruity but with a powerfull petrol smell
Effect: The high is heavy and longlesting
Flowers Big and dense
THC:Up to 22%

that would b a perfect addition the yeil sounds great and the look is very apealing.. who stocks that strain? which seed bank?

Just click on the Killing Fields link.

Sannie Would Be The Breeder http://www.sanniesshop.com/killing-fields-f2-p-684.html You Can't Go Wrong With Any Of His Strains!!!,,Top Shelf!!

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Barney's Honey B - 100% Feminised


The best Sativas are worth waiting for, and Honey B is no exception. The longer flowering time allows the buds to fill out and mature fully. The intense high of this Sativa is racy, clear and has a fruity sweet taste. This plant stretches during flowering. Yields are enormous.

Seed and Plant Information
Type: Sativa
Genetics: Confidential
Yield: Optimum indoor: 650 gr/m2
Indoor height: 80 - 90 cm
Indoor flowering time: 85 - 95 days
Outdoor harvest time: End of October
THC: 18% CBD: 0.6%

This is what I'm growing now,they are 45 days into flower and the colas are already quite heavy with bud.I reckon I'll probably have to stake them shortly as they have another 40/50 days to go.
They are from Barneys Farm seeds,in Holland,but I think most seed banks have them.I know London Seed Centre and Attitude definately do,and they're not to expensive either,around $45 US for femmed (5 seeds)and a few dollars less for ordinary.
I got 5 feminised and all turned out female,so they seem pretty reliable.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,Tumnus.

thanx a bunch, i checked out his site and it seems pretty professinol im def gonna be ordern from him, are ther any other of his strains that would b recommended? ( the more mothers the better lol)

Their are loads of 2 - 3 oz plants out there. This is more of a science question than a strain.

i ) How big is the grow area
ii ) What size pots you use
iii ) How long did you want to Veg ( The Longer the better )
iv) Lumens ( Light source 400w - 1000w )
v) Nutrients can increase yield ( Try bloom during the last week instead of flush )

So you see it's not about yield, it's all about the science. The smallest strain can be grown into a monster, if you take the time to prepare everything in advance.

A friend of mine had a 15oz cured plant not too long ago, he did Veg for 5 week and grew in 50 litre pots. The stupid idiot didn't take any clones and killed the mother.

The bigest buds I'v produced cam from the following strains:
Big Bud: nice high, very high bud to leaf ratio, med hight
Chronic: stronger then Big Bud , All so very high bud to leaf ratio, med hight
Ak-47: very strong ... very nice harvest, medium hight
Blue Mystic: nice taste, very high bud to leaf ratio,short hight
Great White Shark: strong ,great taste
just a few I'v had good luck with, and produce very well... check out this seed bank..and see what you think..http://www.marijuana-seeds.nl/

well thak you for all the options il prolly grab a few of each and make em all mothers n just rotate strain

as for the questions about my space

its a 10x10 room with 2x 1000w hps and i have a closet for my mothers/clones 4 shelves for clones & a cloner .. and the mothers on the bottom in 20gal totes ea
the final pots the babies end up in are 3.5 gal and the only thing i give them thruought flowering is distilled water and mollases.. during veg my buddy makes me this crack for plants its amazing (not really crack lol)
my plants always avg 2-4oz each depending on the branching im just lookin for strains that can either produce more or a A+++ QUALITY,
i am going into commercial shortly for a certain club that all should be familure with and i just want to be able to provide enuf to fill demand and of a execeptional medicinal qualityso keep the ideas comming because im looking to stock atleast 15 strains so im always open to suggestions
thx all n happy smokin

nyc diesel!! best there is best there was the best there ever will be,,hehe... (imo)

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yes,, helluva place,, jus got buy one get 1 free on nyc diesel seeds,, cant wait to get em n poppem!!

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I'm growing out Bubblegum,and Superskunk from them right now... just as soon as i can I will post pic.. but I have heard great things about there Super Skunks production amount.. and quality.. there Mazar-Afgani freebees are nice beans.. dont produce the higest amount.. but very high quality smoke.. keep on keepin' it green(or purple,or blue, even lavender would be fine)

let everyone understand that NYCD was a clone from a chemdawg momma (Not sure if it was straight chem, theyd been playing with it for some time at that point) that made its way to new york...but because the growers wanted control of the market, they renamed it Diesel.

thank you so much for the question..I have been wondering the same thing..my space is 6 by 6 with 1000 watt..someone told me mazur was good producer..I am abut to harvest brainwreck..then I will try super lemon haze and white widow..it has been almost a year and I am still trying to collect a nice closet of clones..I am so tired of the hermies...lol

1. Critical Mass @ www.mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=17

A reworked excellent version of an old breed once known as Big Bud. This is an absolute must for the cultivator who demands a high yield with an equally high stone. It is the heaviest plant currently in production for commercial farmers and outdoor crops, resembling the male genital protrusion of a giant donkey.

Due to its heavy flower construction it can be susceptible to mould if the growing area is too high with humidity. So be warned, harvest on time!!! It has a genetic pedigree originating from a particularly heavy Afghani combined with the original Skunk#1. An expected yield indoors would be realistic at 650-750 grams per square meter … possibly more for the experienced cultivators.

2. The 2 Pounder @ www.marijuana-seeds-canada.com/products/kiwi-2-pounder

Especially for the guerrilla grower, this strain was originally stabilised outdoors in New Zealand. She’s become something of a legend to the locals in the far-north, where an average plant in a good season could top the scales at more than 1kg of bud!

3. BC BIG BUD - Mostly Sativa - Indoor

Can grow tall but fills out well
Smoke is sweet
Very potent
Height 8-12 ft
Yield 1/2 to 1 lb
Flowering time 8 wks

BC Big Bud Marijuana Seeds
BC Big Bud cannabis seeds
Marijuana Strain Library - BC Big Bud
BC Bud Depot - BCBD - BC Big Bud
Vancouver Seed Bank

A plant for professional cash croppers. These heavy ladies continue to amaze even experienced growers who continue coming back to fill there gardens. It is advisable to tie up the bottom branches as they may to break due to their excessive weight.
　

04. KC36
http://www.kcbrains.com/

05. Pot-of-Gold
Flyingdutchmen > Flying Dutchmen > Cannabis Seeds > POT OF GOLD

06. Heavy Duty Fruity
T.H.Seeds Heavy Duty Fruity

07. California Hashplant
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk...prod_1157.html

08. Williams Wonder
http://www.bcbuddepot.com/seed_packs...ategory=Indoor
http://www.hempdepot.ca/seeds/reefer...iamsWonder.htm

09. Power Plant
http://www.dutch-passion.nl/index.php?p=seeds&l=en&detail=9&grow=1

10. Millenium
Homegrown Fantaseeds : Homegrown Fantaseeds / Fantaseeds Garden - Seed Shop & Homegrown Community

11. Monster Bud
Marijuana Seeds - Highest Quality Marijuana Seeds Online

HIGHGRADE DISCUSSION FORUMS - MONSTER BUD pics!

12. Mighty Mite x Kong
Mostly Indica, 181 strains, page 5 of 8 - cannabismarijuana.com Marijuana Seeds

Kong Info @ http://cannabismjseeds.com/kong-cannabis-seeds.html

Here's a few breeding projects for all you budding-breeders:-

1. BC Big Bud x Critical Mass
2. Power Plant x Williams Wonder
3. Mighty Mite/Kong x Monster Bud
4. California Hashplant x Millenium
5. Two Pounder x Pot-of-Gold
6. Heavy Duty Fruity x KC36


RT

My apologies if I offended anyone. I just assumed a few of you might be interested in a little experimental "hobby-breeding", strictly for research and personal medication; not for distribution! I should have perhaps given an indication of my rationale for each potential cross.

Of the six proposed crosses, perhaps the California Hashplant would give the greatest reason for pause and hesitation; on account of its mild stone, comparatively speaking. I mean, it is obviously not a couchlock or wheelchair indica, by any stretch of the imagination.

Compared to pure ruderalis, though, CH is 'da bomb;' but otherwise, when compared to pure G-13, it is at its very best rather unimpressive; but still: it definitely has some clear merit points in its own right, insufficiently brought out or dwelled upon in the Attitude Seedbank's description of it:-

"Dinafem Seed’s California Hash Plant is pure East Indian; a region known for being the producer of some of the finest Indica grown. By crossing two sisters of the of the same genetic line, we were able to create a fast flowering, high yielding, mould resistant plant that offers a very good yield with good quality. Medicinally, a very soothing, and sedative effect can be expected. Not over powering but more mellow. It calms, rather than excites. Like a good hashish." - Attitude Seedbank

I linked to the Attitude website mainly because of the better photo of it there, but compare Attitude's description of the CH to this other competing description of it, located elsewhere online @ http://www.pickandmixseeds.co.uk/products/dinafem-california-hash-plant :-

"This plant is a pure indica, the result of an endogamic cross made between 2 sister plants of the same genetic line. They were selected outdoors, in high humidity and low light conditions, over several years, focussing on fast flowering and high production. They demonstrated that they were more suitable than the rest, due to their good mould resistance.

"This ability to adapt to cold and humid climates is mainly due to the precocity of both parental plants, which flower within 45/50 days indoors; outdoors the fastest specimens ripen around 25th September and the last around 5th October. It has a bush-like shape, forming a well branched-out and wide plant, not particularly tall displaying a typical indica shape; the leaves are wide and dark with a short internodal distance, which improves flower production allover the surface of the branches.

"This is a good and fast producer making it a safe bet outdoors. It smells sweet, not very strong, making it easier to conceal than other strains, which is often very important; when dried, the aroma is mild, not particularly dense or fruity and more similar to hash or spices. It is not a fresh or floral scent but a little cured.

"It has medium strength and a sedative effect due to its CBO content, quite similar to the effect of hashish, as its name suggests. It is suitable to be used as a tranquiliser, for patients with nervous disorders or sleeping difficulties, thanks to its low psychoactive effect, which calms more than excites the imagination." [End of Description]

Now, if you ask me, the second description is way superior to the first, in pointing out all the strengths of the CH. Although I paired it up with the Millenium strain, a good argument can be made, on the basis of this second description, for pairing her up instead with the Crtical Mass from Mr. Nice Seeds, and THSeeds' Heavy Duty Fruity, for the following reasons:

1. Critical Mass. This strain has two main weaknesses: first, it is very susceptable to mold, under humid conditions, due to the size and density of its bud structure. The California Hashplant would give it greater mold-resistance; and perhaps improve a little upon its taste. While more extensive breeding has made recent improvements on the CM taste, there is still room for improvement, and remains one of the breeder's goals for it, through an ongoing process of meticulous selection.

The CH is itself a heavy yielder, so the cross with CM is not likely to result in lower yields; and the CM has excellent trich production capabilities, which would likely be an improvement upon the CH's crystal coating. The potency of Critical Mass, in terms of the latest version of it, at least, would likely improve upon the CH's potency. If you look at the finishing time(s) of both strains, the CH is quicker than CM, and so will likely improve CM there as well.

2. Heavy Duty Fruity. Here is the breeder's description of it: "One word ‘Monstrous’ describes this plant best. A huge producer with giant cola’s that will make any ‘bud waver’ happy. Absolutely the best indoor producer we have seen yet. Ideal for plantlet method 20-30 p.s.m. But beware, we don’t call it Heavy Duty Fruity™ for nothing, this plant smells strong. So air cleaners or ozone generators are suggested. H.D.F. merges big production with quality and strength. Who says commercial yielding plants have to be low in quality?"

"But beware," they say, "we don’t call it Heavy Duty Fruity™ for nothing, this plant smells strong. So air cleaners or ozone generators are suggested." This trait in itself is enough to deter many growers who are concerned with stealth, to the uttermost, and don't always want to be worried about escaping odours that can be a dead give away. Now, compare that to the CH, as described in the following words: "It smells sweet, not very strong, making it easier to conceal than other strains, which is often very important; when dried, the aroma is mild, not particularly dense or fruity and more similar to hash or spices. It is not a fresh or floral scent but a little cured."

Once again, because the CH is a heavy yielding big-bud variety, the HDF yield is not very likely to suffer much, if anything at all, by the crossing of the two, but the CH is a quicker finish, and so will reduce the HDF's finish time.The HDF would improve upon the CH's overall potency and psychoactivity, making it about 25% sativa, depending upon the grower's selection for that.trait. Overall I think it would be a winning combination in each case, as well as with Homegrown Fangtaseed's Millenium variety:

3. Millenium: A "50% Sativa, 50% Indica strain with huge long cola’s that need branch support as soon as you start flowering. She will not branch out too much making her suited for growers with a “sea of green” technique. Her Sativa influences prevent her from growing too dense, which allows for more airflow through the buds which helps preventing mould. This is a very strong variety that left many first-time smokers in a feebleminded state of consciousness."

Now, the above description makes Millenium sound, to me at least, like it would be the perfect mate for the pure indica California Hashplant, making the cross about 25% sativa, and thus giving it a greater psychoactive component. But if neither of the above breeding scenarios has any appeal to you, then perhaps you might like it crossed to either the Himalaya Gold, by Mr. Nice Seeds, or perhaps even Sensi's Hashplant, which is a mix of about 75% Hashplant and 25% Northern Lights #1.

A cross with Sensi's Hashplant would improve significantly upon the CH's potency, creating a hybrid of about 80% Hashplant and 20% Northern Lights. The CH would most likely improve significantly upon the yield of the Sensi Hashplant (SEE IT @ http://www.sensiseeds.com/hashplant/1p2315.html ); while the Sensi Hashplant is likely to improve the California Hashplant's finish time, potentially by up to a week, through careful selection.

4. Himalaya Gold: Breeder's Description - "The panorama was breath taking as we peered through the crack in the rickety weather board guesthouse that had been built on stilts. As our focus came back from the distance, we realized we were viewing a Sativa that only began to flower 1.5 meters up the enormous trunk it was suspended on. It was the most awesome specimen I had personally ever seen in my ultimate quest of the " Gruesome One". At another closer examination we saw it was and had been blossoming for almost one year... cured buds on the stalk!

"That first puff told all the secrets of the altitude of the Himalayas and the bonus of intense UV rays. Straight away the taste of all the sweetness of the valley flowers crept into my mind. The freshness of the smoke drifted into my blood system and I joined the spirit of my surroundings. Clear, fresh, and high... how I felt and where I was... "Mumma, I'm home", that is all I could think."

What a beautiful and poetic description of the strain. I absolutely love it! It sells me on it, without fail, every time I read it! That is the original description of that strain, as it existed while Shantibaba was still part owner of GHS; though GHS seems to have changed both the description and the strain itself. If you want the original Himalaya Gold, get ahold of Shantibaba, at Mr. Nice Seeds.

At any rate, the above is a description of a sativa grown in the Nepalese highlands, on the border of Northern India. I believe Shanti crossed it with an Indian Indica, to create a 60:40 sativa-indica hybrid; and the California Hashplant itself is about 90% East Indian indica. Assuming the dominance ratio of HG is 60% sativa, crossing it with the CH would create a 30% sativa hybrid. Again, a nice addition to the mix of sativa energy and psychoactivity. Just a few thoughts. As I say, I hope you all don't mind.

RT

Come to think of it, Critical Mass and Millenium sound like they'd be a pretty good match-up too! Wow, if only I had the time and facility. - RT