I was wondering if Hermie's put out females seeds considering it was more female at first?
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Female plants produce female seeds if they are grown from female seeds or female clones! Plus they cant hurt the rest of your crop because they have no male pollen.

a plant that was female and forced to reverse sex will put out female pollen which when used on a different female plant will give you relatively stable feminized seeds. there are many articles on how to do this in our data base including a very good one my scott06 just do a search and you should find quite a bit.

also most agree that a plant that hermied for no reason or very easily will produce weak hermaphroditic offspring.

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the answer to your question is both yes and no.
hermies will put out all three types of seeds, female, male and hermie.

but all its offspring will have hermie genetics inside. so unless you use normal males or female youll always have hermies and be wondering why

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Sounds best to throw out the ones I have been saving from the hermie then

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You can save the leaves and use them for bubble hash so it is not a complete waste.

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you can grow em, but at least understand why if you get hermies.

i wouldnt keep breeding with them though.

but if you have other seeds.... yerh i would ditch em. throw em in a park or police station garden.

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It was a seedy hermie, but I smoked it anyway, wasn't to bad
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yea the **** im growing i didnt know had sacks.. its flowering etc etc looked like my other females and when I really look @ it it had sacks on the bottom with yellow pollen.. hermie..now will it put my other females @ risk? It doesnt bother me if it does... But just asking..

I was always under the impression that a Hermie reaps Hermie seeds?? Like ileso had mentioned first thing to do is to find out WHY the Hermie happened. Was it just an unstable strain? Was it an error in your light cycle or an issue with temps. Sure there are still some good uses for it anyway and yes you can still get nice and high off seeded Bud(we've ALL smoked it so please noone out there can say that they have never smoked anything but feminised grass) but we strive for the female flowers consistently unless we are Breeding than we are Pollinating female flowers purposely. I have found that indoors it kinda boils down to 2 problems that contribute major to Hermies. 1) an unstable strain or possible Gene defect and 2) Light cycle interruption(that will do it everytime). Just my experience but then again i'm by far no breeder so my opinion is based solely on my personal errors and the results. That's the best Scientific proof I can think of.
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All of "Soma's" fems are created via the stress method (he called it "roderization")...as are quite a few of the other fems out there.

I think those saying that there will be hermie genes in the mix are correct.

However, with that said, I personally feel that EVERY pot plant out there has the hermie trait lying in wait.....bbecause...well...it's the cannabis plants SURVIVAL MODE. Nobody around to have sex with? Have it with yourself. (you guys know what I'm talking about here...LOL)

If a plant hermies for no apparent reason the hermie trait is very upfront in the genetiics. However...if a plant that has never hermied is stressed a few times...say you let it DRY OUT and wilt a bit a few successive waterings...wsell..that plant will more than likely revert to SURVIVAL mode and will dig DEEP to find the path to self-preservation....creating A FEW male sacks.....not an entire plant full of 'em.

SOUR DIESEL is a great example. The hermie gene is there without a doubt in te plant I had....but it won't raise it's head most of the time unless you stress her hard.

I had this happen to me iin a greenhouse. As a result, the SD pollenated 8 other strains. I didn't get THOUSANDS of seeds....more like DOZENS from each plant....and EVERY ONE GROWN TO DATE HAS BEEN A FEMALE and only one plant out of a couple dozen has tried to make balls.

In short...depending on the conditions present that may have caused the herm (environmental or genetic), the seeds you have may be good to go and may not produce hermies at any higher rate than any other seed/strain. The ONLY way to know is to pop a few and see.

you may be pleasantly surprised....

ww

somas method is slightly different from your average stress related hermapheraditism...

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I personally think the Dutch want folks to THINK they are doing something special that no one else is doing.... LOL.

So if I want to make female seeds just stick my low ryder in with a male plant for how long.. Or shoul I just shake the pollen on the females? 1 of my plants were a hermie and its buddin and I found sacs on it with yellow pollen won't hurt the others will it?

well it is. acording to him he keeps em in flower for an extra two weeks or so. and the female goes nuts and does a sex change according to the book...

Nope. Males and females put together will produce more M/F seed.

Read above.... my take is that if your plant hermied ON IT'S OWN the trait is WAYYY upfront in the mix and is gonna show up ALL THE TIME. If the hermie is STRESS RELATED it MAY NOT (no guarantees, but less likely, IMO) show up in later generations unless they too are stressed to the max.

read..read..read...IF IF IF you are thinking about crossing plants. You may be creating a perpetual NIGHTMARE if you have no REAL CLUE WHAT YOU ARE DOING....and you DEFINETELY don't want to SPREAD THOSE SEEDS AROUND TO OTHERS if you do make em.

ww

Ya sure don't see a lot of reports about his fems being grown out....

but hey...more power to him.

oh i know that. im just relaying what i read in SOMA's book. he stresses the females with lights and whatever. and the ones that dont hermie he takes to be 'true' females. and its these that he flowers for the extra 14 or so days until they change sex.
according to him just flowering them that extra mile will naturally reverse sex on some females because they get desperate for the good stuff...

actually your right. i dont think i know a single grower thats ever grown his fem seeds. and whether what he writes is true or not. i cant say.

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How to produce feminized marijuana seeds

Creating feminized marijuana seeds is an art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making cannabis seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have use gibberellic acid, light stress, ph stress, and fertilizer stress to force my plants to make marijuana seeds. All these methods are harsh on the plants, and some like the gibbrellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized cannabis seeds.

Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making marijuana seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method “Rodelization” after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female cannabis seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male “bananas”. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make marijuana seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.

To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female pot seeds.
Many growers out there have male banana phobia.
They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them “Emergency Devices” because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.

For the second phase you need to already have a crop that’s already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make weed seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female cannabis seeds. If you’re one of those growers that has never grown marijuana seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from THSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: “Drop seeds not bombs”.

Soma

I can vouch for it as being true as Ive played with the method myself. Its not really anthing more than being selective about what female that you do it with and making her grow what is known as "bananas" (because of the shape to the elongated pollen pods).
The pods are collected and pollen is used on a clone of the same plant generally.
90%+ female ratio is obtained through the method give or take a few percent if your selective about making sure that female has a low chance of herming due to other factors.